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Trump pushing for major crackdown on homeless camps in California, with aides discussing moving residents to government-backed facilities

By Jeff Stein, Tracy Jan, Josh Dawsey and Ashley Parker
September 10, 2019 at 4:36 p.m. EDT

President Trump has ordered White House officials to conduct a sweeping crackdown on homelessness in California, citing the state's growing crisis, according to four government officials aware of the effort.

The talks have intensified in recent weeks. Administration officials have discussed using the federal government to get homeless people off the streets of Los Angeles and other areas and into new government-backed facilities, according to two officials briefed on the planning.

But it is unclear how they could accomplish this and what legal authority they would use. It is also unclear whether the state's Democratic politicians would cooperate with Trump, who has sought to embarrass them over the homelessness crisis with repeated attacks on their competency.

Trump's directive is part of his broader targeting of California and a number of major U.S. cities in recent months, including Baltimore and Chicago. He has complained about what he says are years of failed Democratic leadership that have led sustained poverty and crime. ... Top officials representing the White House and Department of Housing and Urban Development arrived in California this week for a round of meetings. A particular focus has been the "skid row" section of Los Angeles, officials said. The president is directly involved with the initiative, officials said, and has asked for updates.
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Jeff Stein is a policy reporter for The Washington Post. He was a crime reporter for the Syracuse Post-Standard and, in 2014, founded the local news nonprofit the Ithaca Voice in Upstate New York. He was also a reporter for Vox. Follow https://twitter.com/jstein_wapo

Tracy Jan covers the intersection of race and the economy for The Washington Post. She previously was a national political reporter at the Boston Globe. Follow https://twitter.com/TracyJan

Josh Dawsey is a White House reporter for The Washington Post. He joined the paper in 2017. He previously covered the White House for Politico, and New York City Hall and New Jersey Gov. Chris Christie for the Wall Street Journal. Follow https://twitter.com/jdawsey1

Ashley Parker is a White House reporter for The Washington Post. She joined The Post in 2017, after 11 years at the New York Times, where she covered the 2012 and 2016 presidential campaigns and Congress, among other things. Follow https://twitter.com/ashleyrparker

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Hat tip, Joe.My.God:

Trump Orders Crackdown On Homeless Encampments
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https://www.joemygod.com/2019/09/trump-orders-crackdown-on-homeless-encampments/

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:13 PM

1. Gah

Jerry Brown said he’d build a wall around California if Trump was elected. Looks like we need it

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:14 PM

2. Hmmmm - more Trump Concentration Camps. I can't imagine he would act with any

feelings/sense of benevolence or empathy.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:31 PM

13. That was my first thought

as well.

Very on brand for Trump.

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Response to Lindsay (Reply #13)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:37 PM

17. And then I thought of post #16.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:17 PM

43. Spring those FEMA camps into action ...

you know the ones that Obama built!

Thanks Obama.

Do I need to put the sarcasm thingee?

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #2)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:53 PM

65. Privatized Concentration Kamps..

Lock em up,...
US Gov. pays out $700/day per prisoner,...
Then hire them out at 75¢/hr.

Kidnap the children for off shore sex slaves.

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Response to magicarpet (Reply #65)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:14 AM

71. Hire them out ... to Republicans & their campaign donors ... forgot that part ... (nt)

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:15 PM

3. Shipping off the undesirables

Mein gott, where did they get that idea?

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Response to C_U_L8R (Reply #3)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:35 PM

16. So, is this his solution to hunger - replace food stamps with Soylent Green and also solve climate

change!

"Scientist suggests eating human flesh to fight climate change" (originally published by" Fox News)

https://nypost.com/2019/09/09/scientist-suggests-eating-human-flesh-to-fight-climate-change/

A Swedish scientist speaking at Stockholm summit last week offered an unusual possible tactic in combating global climate change: eating human flesh.

Stockholm School of Economics professor and researcher Magnus Soderlund reportedly said he believes eating human meat, derived from dead bodies, might be able to help save the human race if only a world society were to “awaken the idea.”

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #16)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:15 AM

72. Oh, it'll eventually come to that ... (nt)

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:18 PM

4. Instead of building concentration camps for homeless people, how about offering housing subsidies???

And passing universal healthcare coverage so that folks can get the mental health and addiction treatment they need???

It would be cheaper, less disruptive, more effective and infinitely more humane.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #4)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:19 PM

6. Exactly!!! It's really a stupid solution, but then again looking at who is proposing it

stupidity is to be expected.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:21 PM

7. Leave it to Trump to come up with the stupid "solution."

We don't call him Shitler for nothing.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #7)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:43 PM

46. No doubt, friends of tRump

will build the camps, then charge the government to run them. tRump would get his cut, of course.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #7)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:26 AM

77. Rump is inches from the "Final Solution"



Wake up America.

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Response to RKP5637 (Reply #6)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 10:05 PM

68. It's about car emissions.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:19 PM

5. None of his business, unless California asks for his involvement.

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Response to SharonAnn (Reply #5)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 06:55 AM

74. I was wondering about that...


Can the fed get involved in state business that has no federal support $$?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:21 PM

8. "The law, in its majestic equality, forbids rich and poor alike to sleep under bridges,

to beg in the streets, and to steal their bread.”

Anatole France

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:15 PM

29. +1

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Response to elleng (Reply #8)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:27 PM

60. +1

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:23 PM

9. And do we need to wonder

who will be profiting from the facilities?

I didn't think so.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:25 PM

10. Is this the first step of fed concentration camps for homeless and to where it finally leads?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:29 PM

11. This is all about more voter suppression...

gotta get all of his ducks in a row to further limit people's ability to vote in 2020.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:29 PM

12. The Trump Homeless Hotel?

They check in, but they don't check out.

Because to Trump, the poor are worse than the bedbugs and roaches in his hotels.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:35 PM

14. Trump doesn't care about homeless people

so this is about something else.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #14)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:39 PM

19. MONEY TO HIS FRIENDS

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Response to ashredux (Reply #19)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:55 PM

66. $700 per diem per cage occupant adds up in a hurry

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Response to ashredux (Reply #19)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 03:51 AM

83. And then laundered back to him and his puppet masters

His puppet masters, the oligarchs, in Russia have fully mastered siphoning public money into their pockets. They probably have created a how-to book for him.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:35 PM

15. Did the Governor or Legislature of CA ask for his help?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:39 PM

18. "independent contractor camps" I'm sure.....

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:40 PM

20. "unclear how they could accomplish this and what legal authority they would use"

 


Ummm... yah.

Someone is blowing smoke up someone's ass with this story, big time.

The federal government has zero authority to round up homeless people in Los Angeles or any other city.

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Response to jberryhill (Reply #20)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:38 AM

78. My first thought was not necessarily the accommodation

But the methods used to get people there on an ongoing basis. Will there be squads of Government police combing the streets and parks capturing them?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:40 PM

21. This is a brazen attempt to privatize "hotels" for the homeless

run by his buddies for profit and billing the government.

Wait and see.

If the government is paying, what, $750/day for immigrants held in detention camps that are nothing more than cages, wait and see what they can do to make money off housing the homeless.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:42 PM

22. The private prison industry needs more money.

They’re not making enough imprisoning migrants at $700+ per day. With more money, they can donate to Trump and buy more Republicans.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:42 PM

23. Hey drumpf,

My state has one thing to say to you. Fuck off!



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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:45 PM

24. He already has his concentration camps with cages for babies for $775 a day.

He already has his concentration camps with cages for babies for $775 a day.

Now he wants a bloated gov't program with profits for his donors?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:46 PM

25. wrong headed

This is a huge issue in LA right now with businesses and homeowners at wits end. My family lives in Hollywood area and are very progressive and compassionate but it's so bad in many areas it's a public health concern with diseases not seen in decades coming back. I was stunned on my last trip as the homeless have literally taken over stretches of sidewalks with piles of belongings. Businesses and residential entrances are being blocked. This isn't the answer but it will have to be addressed soon by the Governor. My guess is they will be offered an option of moving or be moved, at least, off public sidewalks. No easy answer. Many I encountered are unemployable or suffer from mental illness.

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Response to evertonfc (Reply #25)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:42 PM

52. Homelessness is a county issue. Money for homelessness

comes from HUD and grants to counties. I use to work on homeless grants before I retired from the county of Santa Barbara.

The money comes from the federal government’s and is passed onto counties by the State.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:58 PM

26. gaud dammmint

we throw untold billions into wars that we never win and a military that acts as an arm of capitalism while the citizens are homeless, jobless, medical care less while sleeping and shitting in the streets while the plutocrats steal more and more of the public funds and land.

It would make sense to begin a new Civilian Conservation Corp, funded by a reduction in our MIC budget.

Our infrastructure would gain untold benefits while the citizens would at least enjoy the fruits of their labor.

but we've gone beyond that simple idea at this point.

fuck, forget I wrote this absurd rant.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 05:59 PM

27. The latest directive from tRump's Department of Homeland Cruelty.

KY...........

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:07 PM

28. If conservatives still had any principles, they would be yelling "overreach" at the top of

their lungs. The authoritarian approach begs the question, which model of dystopian fascism are they planning to adopt?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:16 PM

30. this has Miller and cash written all over it

This is not about helping homeless if trump is behind it . Another contract cash cow with Miller cruelty for kicks
Not all, but many uber rich simply disdain the poor

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:19 PM

31. Detroit Mi

under rick synder, the government of the state of Michigan took control of city government away from duly elected officials, in 2013. I imagine that trump crime ring is looking for models and reasons to implement those models in a naked grab for power. Once again, in their inhuman manner, they are targeting a vulnerable group.

There are a lot of homeless veterans, but I hope all of the diverse people who make up the homeless population has some powerful voices to protect them.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:22 PM

32. Are homeless people able to register to vote

in California and other States?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:29 PM

33. this

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Response to AllaN01Bear (Reply #33)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:33 PM

70. My though exactly...

Anyone with access to Deep Space Nine on Netflix should go watch this episode because THAT is what this is.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:40 PM

34. Good god are we truly just sitting back and allowing this?

What's next? Rounding up homosexuals? Making Jewish people sew yellow stars of David to their shirts? What will be enough?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:43 PM

35. Trump hates CA and doesn't give a damn about homeless people so...

he must have an agenda that will hurt both and profit him or other 'Cons/1%ers in some way. Is this a part of his "illegal" immigrant round up BS, some sort of money making gambit or ???

I'm not sure how this even is the federal government's business if the governor of CA hasn't asked for federal help.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:43 PM

36. That's terrifying. Just terrifying.

What have we done to deserve this nightmare

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:48 PM

37. Could do something like expand Section 8 perhaps?

But I don't think the federal government would go there at this time.

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Response to mwooldri (Reply #37)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 01:38 PM

81. section 8 now pernamantly closed.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:49 PM

38. This is just something he says to get votes in California

All over the state are homeless people. He wants to get California votes to support him in 2020. This is just a campaign talking point he will use to gain California voters. The repukes had their state convention recently and they are going to try to use everything they can to turn California red. But it won’t work because here in California we know he is a fraud, liar, cheat and evil.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:55 PM

39. He doesn't want these people counted in the Census.

If they don't exist on the streets to be counted, that's less representation for California.

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Response to Efilroft Sul (Reply #39)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:00 PM

56. Good point just like the undocumented who used to fill out forms Now in 2020 unlikely

2010

Mark Mather: The main method is to go out to shelters and to the people who are providing services to the homeless in order to collect information about the homeless population. They also go out to designated street locations and try to count people who are living on the street. And for those who they don’t identify in designated locations, they have places called “Be Counted” centers to try to get people to come in and fill out their form

https://earthsky.org/human-world/how-does-u-s-census-count-the-homeless-and-undocumented-immigrants

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 06:59 PM

40. It's about the money to be made by subcontractors ....

housing the homeless for the government. Just like the migrants at the border. A handful of subcontractors making money by charging by the day. There a lot of rich people in this country that can't make a dime unless it is from sucking at the teat of the tax payer.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:03 PM

41. So Trump Still Has Some Unused Cages He Wants To Use

And some space on military bases to lock the homeless people out of sight. The ICE "camps" are so successful, what could possibly go wrong. Also, homelessness can be either short term or long term. This would likely convert the short term homeless into long term homelessness, making matters worse.

This would do nothing to address the many causes of homelessness. The mental health issues would remain as would the displaced workers and those with drug issues. Uncaring Republican policies exacerbates the problem. If you sincerely want to correct the problem develop programs that address these issues rather than spending the money on cages to "house" them in. Another example of the sickness that flows through the veins of the Republican hierarchy.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:07 PM

42. Concentration camps in a red state nearby? Counted as population of Utah or Idaho?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:30 PM

44. Trumps plan to end homelessness and hunger...

He will feed the homeless to the hungry.

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Response to olddad65 (Reply #44)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:59 PM

67. New...

Soylent Green! The perfect solution. No protein left behind.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:33 PM

45. In other words: they are planning on rounding up

those they perceive as "undesirables" and putting them in concentration camps.

It's a test balloon to see if locking up citizens can be normalized as locking up immigrants has been.

Dictatorship in action. Too bad there isn't some congressional remedy for an increasingly dictatorial president.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 07:57 PM

47. Being homeless in CA comes with free healthcare, free pet care, free mental healthcare...

free dental care, and great weather. We have @1million people in San Francisco, @8000 of which are homeless at any given time. They live in Golden Gate Park at Stanyan & Haight Streets (aka Hippie Hollow) and in a couple of concentrated areas downtown.

Every service you can imagine is available, and I'm sure the same is true for the rest of CA, save the wingnut areas. Plus, hundreds of nonprofits & corporations offer education programs, grooming, housing, & food. On the rare occasions that we have rain lasting more than an hour, communities open up warming centers. The average temp is around 65F, and the air is clear & smells sweet.

Granted, it's much easier to be homeless here than in Chicago or Baltimore, but they offer services, too. Anyway, Trump is just once again pandering to what's left of his base by threatening to invade Democratic cities & states, which he knows is illegal.

Trump is the "Who's gonna make me?" president. It's time to make him go to prison.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #47)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:26 PM

49. No one in CA, homeless or not, has totally free heath, dental and pet care.

All involve at least some out of pocket expense. My brother has MediCal, the "free" heath coverage in CA. It ain't free. You still need to pay for transportation to your appointment, some medications aren't covered, others are only partly covered, and there are many noncovered treatments, such as the back surgery my brother needed. Dental care is just the basics: extractions, fillings. My brother had a bad molar, they just pulled it and gave him antibiotics. No bridge, no dental implant. I am unaware of any state funding of pet care.

Nor is there readily available personal grooming, clothing laundry, or a quiet place to sleep. Homeless shelters are scary, loud, overcrowded horror shows. Just come to 5th Street in Downtown L.A. if you think the homeless have "everything you can imagine" in CA.

But I will agree that it's "eeasier" to be homeless here than colder parts of the country. At least you won't freeze to death overnight here.

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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #49)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:43 PM

53. +1

All true, absolutely!



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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #49)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:42 PM

62. Homeless. Not just poor or underemployed. Here's just one source of services.

All anyone has to do is call 311.

In addition to temporary & transitional housing, there's:

http://hsh.sfgov.org/services/other%20services/

Outside of the services provide by HSH, there are numerous essential services provided by our partners at other City agencies and by nonprofit organizations.



One Home
A resource tool that will help you find affordable housing in the Bay Area.

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A resource tool that will help you find services in the Bay Area.

Link SF
A resource tool that will help you find shelter, food, medical care, or help you meet your hygiene and technology needs based on where you are and what is open.

San Francisco Assistance for Young Adults
A resource for transitional age youth (16-24) that includes a comprehensive directory of service referrals including: workforce, education, housing, wellness, advocacy and recreation.

San Francisco Homeless Resource Wiki
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Mon-Fri, 7:00 AM – 9:00 AM
Dinner:
Mon-Fri, 5:00 PM – 7:00 PM
Saints Peter & Paul Church
666 Filbert St.

Sandwiches:
Mon-Fri, 6:00 PM – 6:30 PM
Sandwiches:
Sat & Sun, 4:00 PM
Martin de Porres
225 Potrero Ave.

Breakfast:
Mon, Tues, Thurs, Fri, 6:30 AM – 7:30 AM
Lunch:
Tues-Sat, 12:00 PM – 2:00 PM
Medical Resources
Tom Waddell Urgent Care
50 Lech Walesa
415-355-7400

SF General Hospital Emergency Department
1001 Potrero Ave., # 1E21
415-206-8111

Legal Services
Community-Based Legal Services

Phone Resources
Suicide Prevention
415-781-0500

WOMAN, Inc
877-384-3578

Mobile Crisis
415-970-4000

SF HOT Team
415-734-4233

Every Day Connect Resource Line
855-588-7968

Westside Community Services – Crisis Clinic
415-355-0311

San Francisco County Mental Health Access
415-255-3737 or 888-246-3333

Progress Foundation’s Dore Urgent Care Clinic
415-553-3100

Mobile Crisis
415-355-8300

Comprehensive Child Crisis Services
415-970-3800

San Francisco Suicide Prevention Hotline
415-781-0500

Treatment Access Program TAP-Voluntary Unit Mental Health Access (MHA)
415-503-4730 or 1-800-750-2727

Benefits
County Adult Assistance Programs (CAAP) and Food Stamps
1235 Mission Street (between 8th & 9th St.)
San Francisco, CA

415-558-1000
415-558-1090 (for information in Chinese/Cantonese)
415-558-1156 (for information in Spanish)
Social Security Offices
1098 Valencia St. San Francisco, CA 94110
800-772-1213

90 7th St., San Francisco
866-964-1726

901 Market St # 500
San Francisco, CA 94103

Eviction Prevention
Eviction Defense Collaborative
Drop-in Clinic Hours AFTER December 1, 2016
Monday – Friday
9:00 AM – 11:00 AM
1:00 PM – 3:00 PM
1338 Mission Street; 4th Floor
San Francisco, CA 94103

Conflict Intervention Services

Employment
Homeless Employment Collaborative

Haight Street Resources


If you don't live here, do some research. Even the bus drivers don't ask homeless/poor people to pay or get off unless they're frightening others.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #62)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:03 AM

79. The SF nonprofits you're citing don't cover the needs of SF's homeless, let alone all of CA.

I do live here, meaning California. Where do you live? Have you ever been to 5th Street in downtown LA? Dialing 311 does not get you a place to live, nor a doctor, nor food for your pet. If it did, we wouldn't have homeless people in CA.

Why are you saying this blatantly incorrect stuff? Why are you implying people are homeless by choice? Do you think people want to suffer, that they want to live on the streets?



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Response to SunSeeker (Reply #49)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:44 PM

63. Thanks for pointing this out.

There are organizations that provide transition shelter and aid, but they're way overrun by demand. One of the shelter organizations based in San Jose (and they cover all of Santa Clara and San Mateo counties) was pleased to announce earlier this year that they can now provide protected parking for families - no room, no help, but at least a place where you can sleep in your vehicle without worrying about being disturbed - and have some access to bathing facilities.

I live mid-Peninsula, between San Francisco and San Jose. The homeless aren't as obvious here as they are in SF, but you can find them if you know where to look. There are a lot of people who live in their vehicles, probably a lot more than street people. And while we don't get MidWest-type blizzards it does get below freezing here in winter: a homeless person in my town died of exposure a few winters back.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #47)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:41 PM

51. Nothing is "free" in California

Health care for two persons is over $1500 a month and that is with Medicare A & B.

You need to see a dentist, you pay for it.

As for the rest of the things you seem to think are free, well you are wrong.

Oh, as for "Hippie Hollow", there never was such a place.

Maybe you meant "Hippie Hill "?

Give the Great State of California a break would you?

This California bashing gets old as all hell.





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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #51)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:47 PM

64. Duh. Yes, Hippie Hill. The hollow is in Austin, where I went to grad school.

Do you live in CA? I've lived across the street from GGPark for 7 years, and I interact with the homeless regularly.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #64)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 11:02 PM

69. Yes I still live here

Takes a lot to oust a 5th generation San Franciscan.

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #64)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:40 AM

73. Just hearing about where you live is making me want some Cha Cha Cha ...

And to go trip at the Dark Side of The Moon Laserium show (at Morrison Planetarium)

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Response to displacedtexan (Reply #47)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:53 PM

54. You are wrong on much of what you say.

I worked for the County of Santa Barbara in the Behavior Wellness dept until I retired in 2016.

The money for homelessness is limited and can’t possibly do all that you are talking about.

The services you talk about come from counties and private non profit organizations.

Warming shelters are not opened until there are consecutive nights of freezing temperatures. At that they are seldom filled.

If the homeless qualify for Medicaid(Medical in CA) they can get some medical treatment and mental health services. That was mostly for children until the ACA and Medicaid expansion.

The world of homelessness in CA is nothing like you describe.

The facts are in the Homeless Management Information System HMIS which was put into practice some years ago.

If you could get the data you would see how wrong you are.

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Response to wasupaloopa (Reply #54)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:16 PM

57. They moved the homeless where I am located

To a parking lot next to the county welfare office.

How kind was that exactly?

They have relocated to other places but they are not gone.

They will never be gone until they do something about the fact that there are not enough places available to rent at a reasonable price.

I'd be right there with them had I not managed to get out of a negative situation I was in a number of years ago and yes, it can happen to anyone.

One roll of the dice go wrong and , welcome to HELL I'm sure you'll agree!

One has to wonder if these California bashers are green with envy or filled with hatred?



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Response to CountAllVotes (Reply #57)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:23 PM

59. The homeless problem is what it is because we refuse to

spend the money on it that is needed.

In our protestant way of thinking, people who are homeless brought it on themselves. Helping them is not our problem.

You would be amazed at how many times I have argued against that attitude.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:16 PM

48. SQUIRREL!!

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:29 PM

50. Going to move them all to FEMA camps?

His cronies will be compensated handsomely at tax payer expense.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 08:53 PM

55. Trump

is all about this. No surprises. If he can, he will try to expand the Fascist grip on the Nation with concentration camps in mind and a scapegoat de jour.

Will California agree to this help and is the use of the word "intercede" a threat? If so, will it set another precedent where American citizens are then legally detained and placed in camps because they are in poverty, rather than for committing crimes?

Notice that this is not a means to help the homeless obtain housing, but to take away what they have now and place them in government facilities.

This country already has an insane incarceration problem as it is.

Crackdown, huh? Sounds like a term you would use for criminals. Even the mention of it implies another slippery slope.

And, of course, anything that Trump proposes has ulterior motives and comes backed by his total ignorance.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Tue Sep 10, 2019, 09:22 PM

58. First immigrants and refugees, next the homeless....

then what, the gangs? journalists? fascist pig

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 07:59 AM

75. Unconstitutional. This is state jurisdiction, not federal.

The Idiot is trying to again line the pockets of his cronies to set up more private concentration camps. FASCISTS!!

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 08:08 AM

76. The Cretin and his WH thugs are the "skid row" of humanity. n/t

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 09:50 AM

80. "Government backed facilities?"

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Wed Sep 11, 2019, 02:31 PM

82. Chilling

He needs to mind his own damn business.

State's Rights

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:02 AM

84. Trump officials tour unused FAA facility in California in search for place to relocate homeless peop

Source: Washington Post

Trump officials tour unused FAA facility in California in search for place to relocate homeless people

By Jeff Stein, Josh Dawsey and Tracy Jan
September 11 at 8:49 PM

A team of Trump administration officials toured a California facility once used by the Federal Aviation Administration this week as they searched for a potential site to relocate homeless people, according to three government officials who spoke on the condition of anonymity to discuss the private tour.

President Trump has directed aides to launch a major crackdown on homelessness in California, spurring an effort across multiple government agencies to determine how to deal with sprawling tent camps on the streets of Los Angeles and other cities, officials said.

Trump is expected to visit California on Tuesday and Wednesday. One administration official with knowledge of Trump’s visit to California said there were discussions about an announcement related to California’s growing homeless problem next week, but a second official said that any decision could be premature and that it was not on the current schedule for the trip.

Trump has asked aides to figure out “how the hell we can get these people off the streets,” one senior administration official said.

The FAA facility toured by administration officials is located in or near Los Angeles, but its precise name or whereabouts — or whether it is a current or former government facility — were not immediately known.

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Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/2019/09/12/trump-officials-tour-unused-faa-facility-california-search-place-relocate-homeless-people/

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Sep 12, 2019, 11:08 PM

85. "..what legal authority they would use."

A special unitary executive fiat designed and granted by Personal Attorney Genital Barr and thumb-twiddled by the Putinate (formerly Senate.)

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