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me_not_you

(75 posts)
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:53 PM Oct 2019

White House: Turkey to invade Northern Syria

Source: Associated Press

WASHINGTON (AP) — The White House says Turkey will soon invade Northern Syria, casting uncertainty on the fate of the Kurdish fighters allied with the U.S. against in a campaign against the Islamic State group.

Read more: https://apnews.com/1517087f2d3b4f6685fc9802bce370e6?utm_campaign=SocialFlow&utm_source=Twitter&utm_medium=AP



Why isn't this up on DU yet??? You guys sleeping?
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White House: Turkey to invade Northern Syria (Original Post) me_not_you Oct 2019 OP
I was wondering the same thing?? Freethinker65 Oct 2019 #1
Agreed me_not_you Oct 2019 #4
Words from the Kurds me_not_you Oct 2019 #2
It will take decades for allies to trust the US (if we survive that long) again Freethinker65 Oct 2019 #3
But for what reason? me_not_you Oct 2019 #5
another... me_not_you Oct 2019 #6
+1 dalton99a Oct 2019 #8
oh linds me_not_you Oct 2019 #7
Trump is throwing the Kurds under the bus nwduke Oct 2019 #9
last act of office? me_not_you Oct 2019 #10
Kick & rec for visibility. (nt) scarletwoman Oct 2019 #11
The Kurds are guarding the ISIS internment camps. They'll stop that now to defend themselves Arazi Oct 2019 #12
What a travesty. gademocrat7 Oct 2019 #13
Yes, I was sleeping spinbaby Oct 2019 #14
Turkey is following Putin's orders. gab13by13 Oct 2019 #15
That's what I've heard and .... me_not_you Oct 2019 #18
There is no uncertainty. lark Oct 2019 #16
If the Kurdish people never trust Americans again IronLionZion Oct 2019 #17

Freethinker65

(10,012 posts)
1. I was wondering the same thing??
Sun Oct 6, 2019, 11:58 PM
Oct 2019

This is so important.

Trump is effectively letting Turkey massacre the Kurds, our allies against ISIS.

And all Trump does is say it saves the US money!!!

All this fucker and the fucking GOP care about is fucking enriching themselves. They have no moral compass. The US will have no allies when they are done.

This is so dangerous.

And those poor Kurdish fighters left without defenses.

 

me_not_you

(75 posts)
4. Agreed
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:11 AM
Oct 2019

Robert Baer (Bob Baer) has spoken often about the Kurds and how important they where ('are', but let be honest past tense is now appropriate) to the U.S. as allies in the region. Going back to Gulf War I.But we have done this too many times to them and other players in the region/world.

You are spot on that going forward small bands of fighters will think twice before taking up arms for the Americans cause. And there is a real human cost to these actions. As a nation our Geo-Political credit is almost over drawn.

Also, notice how The DPRK played the U.S. at the recent nuclear talks? It's armature hour over a Dept. of State.

 

me_not_you

(75 posts)
5. But for what reason?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:21 AM
Oct 2019

Here's an interesting take on Mr. Trump's move in allowing Turkey to invade:





You have to wonder what folks (the experts) at each agency (CIA, DIA, Dept. of State, etc) are thinking/feeling about this. Many times their voices get ignored in the final policy decision. Think there is plenty of evidence on this too.

Such as post Gulf War II. How many former folks have spoken out about how misguided the intel was etc?

nwduke

(350 posts)
9. Trump is throwing the Kurds under the bus
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:48 AM
Oct 2019

To help his fellow dictator bud, Erdoğan! The Kurds were our allies against Isis! No country will ever trust us again!

 

me_not_you

(75 posts)
10. last act of office?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 12:52 AM
Oct 2019

Have heard of presidents issuing mass pardons before leaving office. But perhaps Mr.Trump is starting a new tradition of mass throwing people/groups under the bus before impeachment?

Arazi

(6,829 posts)
12. The Kurds are guarding the ISIS internment camps. They'll stop that now to defend themselves
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:28 AM
Oct 2019

Leaving the radicalized ISIS lunatics to regroup.

This is both a genocide and a terrorist insurgency disaster.

#PutinsPuppet

#Traitor

gademocrat7

(10,656 posts)
13. What a travesty.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 06:22 AM
Oct 2019

The evil and stupidity of this grifter is doing irreparable harm to our allies, the Kurds. All he cares about is his property in Turkey. He must be impeached and removed from office.

gab13by13

(21,318 posts)
15. Turkey is following Putin's orders.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 07:24 AM
Oct 2019

Trump is following Putin's orders. Until people start talking about Syria and its role in oil and gas pipelines then everyone is missing the boat. Putin came to Assad's aid for a reason, oil and gas pipelines that cross Syria and end up in Ukraine on their way to Europe.

Follow the money people.

 

me_not_you

(75 posts)
18. That's what I've heard and ....
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 01:27 PM
Oct 2019

Have read a report that Russia got involved in Syria knowing it would cause exponential growth of migrants fleeing to Western Nations. Which in turn would create the "other" for Putin's puppets in said western nation to go after with propaganda. Like in, France (Marine Le Pen), England (Nigel Farage), Italy (Matteo Salvini), etc.

Some have even suggest Putin tipped off Hungary about this before hand and its why they beefed up their border security.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-35706238

lark

(23,097 posts)
16. There is no uncertainty.
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 08:34 AM
Oct 2019

Turkey will do its' best to wipe out the entire Syrian Kurdish peoples and drumpf moved out of the way for them to do this. The only question is what is he getting from Erdogan in return? They weren't involved with drumpfs illegal moves to use foreign nations to steal the presidency for him - however - they do have tapes of Khashoggi being killed and have been the ones pushing the fact that MBS had him killed. Since we also have information that drumpf and Kushner were co-conspirators, my bet is we hear nada from Turkey about this going forward and thats the quid pro quo in this instance. drumpf never ever does anything that doesn't benefit himself personally, never!

IronLionZion

(45,433 posts)
17. If the Kurdish people never trust Americans again
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 09:26 AM
Oct 2019

I wouldn't blame them. They've been thrown under the bus so many times over the years it's ridiculous.

They should have gotten some sort of homeland out of the Iraq and Syrian conflicts. And the US could build a new airbase there when Turkey throws us out of Incirlik in retaliation.

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