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swag

(26,486 posts)
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:35 PM Oct 2019

EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE'

Source: Newsweek

BY JAMES LAPORTA ON 10/7/19 AT 2:16 PM EDT

Donald Trump got "rolled" by Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan, a National Security Council source with direct knowledge of the discussions told Newsweek.

In a scheduled phone call on Sunday afternoon between President Trump and President Erdogan, Trump said he would withdraw U.S. forces from northern Syria. The phone call was scheduled after Turkey announced it was planning to invade Syria, and hours after Erdogan reinforced his army units at the Syrian-Turkish border and issued his strongest threat to launch a military incursion, according to the National Security Council official to whom Newsweek spoke on condition of anonymity.

The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow, and the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials. Turkey, like the United States, wants regime change in Syria. Russia and Iran support the Assad regime.

"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something," the National Security Council source told Newsweek. "The U.S. national security has entered a state of increased danger for decades to come because the president has no spine and that's the bottom line."

Read more: https://www.newsweek.com/exclusive-official-who-heard-call-says-trump-got-rolled-turkey-has-no-spine-1463623

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EXCLUSIVE: OFFICIAL WHO HEARD CALL SAYS TRUMP GOT 'ROLLED' BY TURKEY AND 'HAS NO SPINE' (Original Post) swag Oct 2019 OP
Swine with no spine. WheelWalker Oct 2019 #1
It is all about obeying Putin. olddad65 Oct 2019 #18
The fithy swine bastard stabbed the Kurds in the back and gleefully signed their death warrent. olegramps Oct 2019 #22
Thousands may be killed, and NO COUNTRY Grins Oct 2019 #24
MF45 swoons for autocrats. bronxiteforever Oct 2019 #2
Did the call involve "however, we'd like you do to us a favor"? brooklynite Oct 2019 #3
..."though." slumcamper Oct 2019 #19
I keep flashing on... IndyOp Oct 2019 #4
I still... Newest Reality Oct 2019 #5
I have always believed subana Oct 2019 #32
Trump was doing a favor for Erdogan poli-junkie Oct 2019 #6
It was for building Trump properties in Turkey NewJeffCT Oct 2019 #11
I believe it was an Ivanka tweet gushing about "Trump Istanbul". calimary Oct 2019 #38
I believe you are right ritapria Oct 2019 #14
The endless "speaking anonymously" isn't exactly brave. AJT Oct 2019 #7
They fear for their safety orangecrush Oct 2019 #21
Well, volstork Oct 2019 #8
Trump Tower Istanbul zwyziec Oct 2019 #9
... or made some other secret "deal" William Seger Oct 2019 #13
An unsure coward who couldn't find Turkey on the map Bromwell Oct 2019 #10
you're right! he has no clue! subana Oct 2019 #34
Every single gop member Scarsdale Oct 2019 #12
When you elect a clown ... FakeNoose Oct 2019 #15
SURPRISE SURPRISE SURPRISE EveHammond13 Oct 2019 #16
Recommended. H2O Man Oct 2019 #17
Forrest Gump could outnegotiate Dolt 45... First Speaker Oct 2019 #20
Why should that be a surprise to anyone who pays attention HE IS A COWARD! usaf-vet Oct 2019 #23
Putin says jump pertello Oct 2019 #25
Who is surprised by this? Gothmog Oct 2019 #26
This is what a tyrant does to get his impeachment off the headlines. ffr Oct 2019 #27
Trump is getting Cucked by Erdogan and Putin TheRealNorth Oct 2019 #28
the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials.. riversedge Oct 2019 #29
How is "increased danger for decades to come" part of "America being great again"? Beartracks Oct 2019 #30
even for a moron like fat Donnie, this is stupid!! subana Oct 2019 #31
out-negotiated subana Oct 2019 #33
Trump's "great and unmatched wisdom"? Beartracks Oct 2019 #35
Is Dolt45 trying to build a hotel in Istanbul? ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #36
he already has one. 2 towers. mopinko Oct 2019 #37
Follow the money ... aggiesal Oct 2019 #39
Erdogan wants regime change and Putin wants Assad flamingdem Oct 2019 #40

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
5. I still...
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:43 PM
Oct 2019

I still strongly expect this to be about more than being spineless or weak.

They are not as compelling as Russia's interests and Trump's business interests, which I think are the real priorities from here on in.

subana

(586 posts)
32. I have always believed
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:08 AM
Oct 2019

that he ran for president to make himself more money! If he hadn't won, it would have elevated his stature which would have increased the value of his properties & if he won, I'm sure he thought he could change the laws which would have benefited him also. The republican's tax plan did mostly benefit people of his financial status.

poli-junkie

(1,002 posts)
6. Trump was doing a favor for Erdogan
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:43 PM
Oct 2019

in exchange for Erdogan keeping quiet about journalist Khashoggi's murder inside Turkey.

calimary

(81,192 posts)
38. I believe it was an Ivanka tweet gushing about "Trump Istanbul".
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 11:16 AM
Oct 2019

How wonderful this deal for the new hotel complex was going to be. Kiss kiss!

William Seger

(10,778 posts)
13. ... or made some other secret "deal"
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 03:02 PM
Oct 2019

This is why the integrity of the President is so important, and why Trump needs to go.

Bromwell

(123 posts)
10. An unsure coward who couldn't find Turkey on the map
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:54 PM
Oct 2019

Got rolled.... Shocking. He equates action of any kind with "look I'm getting things done". Meanwhile real leaders see a mark...a stone cold sucker ripe for the picking. What a clown. He has no clue what he just did.

subana

(586 posts)
34. you're right! he has no clue!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:00 AM
Oct 2019

yesterday on The View, Meghan McCain was really mad about this, as she should be! She said any republican who criticized Obama's decisions in the middle east have no right to say anything else if they don't fight against this!!

it's not too surprising that he has no clue about this. International issues can be complicated & he seems to have difficulty understanding simple things! The only things he seems to believe are conspiracy theories!

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
12. Every single gop member
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 02:59 PM
Oct 2019

deserves to lose their position over this disaster in the WH. He is all their doing. Too afraid to speak up, too afraid of losing the power of the WH even when everything he does is a total disaster. How compromised are they? Time to get rid of the entire gop, and clean house. They are USELESS. Backing a mentally unbalanced moron is not a winning strategy.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
23. Why should that be a surprise to anyone who pays attention HE IS A COWARD!
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 04:43 PM
Oct 2019

He won't fire anyone face to face. He tweets You're fired or sends someone else to do it. He only dares to do it on a TV (Un)reality show that is scripted ahead of time. The make-believe bully has no cojones.

If he didn't have secret service protection or private bodyguards he would have been a whimpering coward and would have long ago gotten an attitude adjustment starting on the schoolyard playground.

pertello

(55 posts)
25. Putin says jump
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:28 PM
Oct 2019

Trump asks “how high?” Dotard is THE Manchurian Candidate! I’d love to see the transcripts of all the conversations between Svengali Putin and his little wooden puppet!

riversedge

(70,182 posts)
29. the announcement left Trump's own Defense Department "completely stunned," said Pentagon officials..
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 05:53 PM
Oct 2019

But I heard earlier that Trump was asked by a reported if he consulted the Joint Chief of staff and T. said he consulted everyone!!

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
30. How is "increased danger for decades to come" part of "America being great again"?
Mon Oct 7, 2019, 08:34 PM
Oct 2019

Hey, Republicans, it's time to DO something about this Trump problem! The man isn't fit to be President, because at the end of the day he doesn't give a shit about anyone except himself.

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subana

(586 posts)
31. even for a moron like fat Donnie, this is stupid!!
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 12:57 AM
Oct 2019
The U.S. withdrawal plays into the hands of the Islamic State group, Damascus and Moscow,


Moscow! why am I not surprised?

subana

(586 posts)
33. out-negotiated
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:18 AM
Oct 2019
"President Trump was definitely out-negotiated and only endorsed the troop withdraw to make it look like we are getting something—but we are not getting something,"


he seems to do that a lot. This isn't the first time he has 'negotiated' a great deal where we got nothing in return!! But we are supposed to believe he's this great negotiator where he could make deals that no one else could have done!

Beartracks

(12,806 posts)
35. Trump's "great and unmatched wisdom"?
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 02:32 AM
Oct 2019

Whizz dumb.

He's still just a selfish moron and egotistical buffoon -- AND a national security risk.

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flamingdem

(39,312 posts)
40. Erdogan wants regime change and Putin wants Assad
Tue Oct 8, 2019, 01:15 PM
Oct 2019

Whose the daddy for tRump on this if Turkey and Moscow are in conflict over Syria's future?

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