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BumRushDaShow

(128,527 posts)
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:45 AM Oct 2019

Hundreds of ISIS Supporters Flee Detention Amid Turkish Airstrikes

Source: New York Times

AKCAKALE, Turkey — Hundreds of relatives of Islamic State fighters fled a Kurdish-run detention camp on Sunday morning after Turkish airstrikes hit the surrounding area, an aid group said, deepening the crisis prompted by the Turkish-led invasion of northern Syria. The escapes raised fears that the attempts to contain affiliates of the militant group were crumbling.

A Kurdish official also said that the flag of the Islamic State, also known as ISIS, had been raised in the countryside between the camp in the Kurdish-held town of Ain Issa and the Turkish border, another indication of how the Kurdish authorities were losing control of a region they had freed from the extremists only months ago. “We are facing very fierce attacks and we’re forced to decrease numbers of guards,” said the official, Ciya Kurd, of the Kurdish-led regional authority, who confirmed the break from the displacement camp after the Turkish strikes.

In a signal that the United States was becoming more concerned about the escalation of the conflict, the American defense secretary, Mark Esper, told CBS’s “Face the Nation” in an interview to be broadcast on Sunday that the United States would evacuate about 1,000 American troops from northern Syria in a “deliberate withdrawal.”

Mr. Esper said that the United States found itself “likely caught between two opposing advancing armies” in northern Syria and called the escalation of the conflict in the region a “very terrible situation.” He said the United States had learned that Turkey was likely to expand its incursion “farther south than originally planned and to the west” in Syria.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2019/10/13/world/middleeast/syria-turkey-invasion-isis.html



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Hundreds of ISIS Supporters Flee Detention Amid Turkish Airstrikes (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 OP
This defies logic even if you fully accept that trump is a malignant narcissist because Mike 03 Oct 2019 #1
So use it to help diss Russia. Igel Oct 2019 #3
He is truly the worst form of humanoid. I hope that he and his fucking crime family end Guy Whitey Corngood Oct 2019 #2
This is winning? B Stieg Oct 2019 #4
so hundreds of tRump supporters are on the lose, ready to fight another day. nt yaesu Oct 2019 #5
ISIS says: Thank you, Donald Trump. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #6

Mike 03

(16,616 posts)
1. This defies logic even if you fully accept that trump is a malignant narcissist because
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 09:57 AM
Oct 2019

he ran on defeating ISIS and bragged that he accomplished it. He's 100% solely responsible for the reconstitution of a terrorist organization.

Igel

(35,282 posts)
3. So use it to help diss Russia.
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 11:25 AM
Oct 2019

Russia's supporting Turkey in many ways, and standing aside.

Turkey is the single biggest ally that ISIS has right now. You fight those who keep ISIS down and weaken ISIS' foes, you're helping them in a big way.

This helps Turkey hurt Syria, Russia's better ally (at least for now, although the Russia/Syria/Iran grouping is still arguably better for Russia than Russia/Turkey, although the argument would have to be made and might not actually be winnable).

Oddly, though, I find the kind of argument you make to be disempowering of those actually on the ground doing things. Trump's responsible--give Erdogan, with his long history of helping Islamist foes of Syria and the fact that he's already occupying and resisting pulling out of Syrian territory when Syria (and Russia) are trying to reclaim it. I can see Turkey pulling the same stunt in the newly weaponized areas as with Idlib. After all, he's taking refugees (those who don't like Assad) and using them as a weapon against the Kurds for now, but this population (and their largely moderately Islamist fighters) could just as well be used against Syria to help prolong a war that really didn't need to happen.

No fan of Assad, and still ticked at a House delegation where at least one member praised Assad, if support hadn't been given to the protesters in 2011 the sheer number of dead would have been lower, there'd have been millions fewer refugess, and ISIS wouldn't probably have been a thing in Syria, except underground and maybe blowing up the occasional car in backwater Syrian towns. The same feet that kicked over the anthill in Syria helped give us Al-Sisi (worse than Mubarak) and Libya.

Guy Whitey Corngood

(26,497 posts)
2. He is truly the worst form of humanoid. I hope that he and his fucking crime family end
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 10:02 AM
Oct 2019

up in a Kurdish prison one day.......

B Stieg

(2,410 posts)
4. This is winning?
Sun Oct 13, 2019, 11:25 AM
Oct 2019

Americans are dying/going to die under the irresponsible and knee-jerk security and foreign policy of this obsessive narcissist.

Impeach AND Indict...


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