Welcome to DU! The truly grassroots left-of-center political community where regular people, not algorithms, drive the discussions and set the standards. Join the community: Create a free account Support DU (and get rid of ads!): Become a Star Member Latest Breaking News General Discussion The DU Lounge All Forums Issue Forums Culture Forums Alliance Forums Region Forums Support Forums Help & Search

trailmonkee

(2,681 posts)
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:31 PM Sep 2012

4 Pinocchios for a truncated, 14-year-old Obama clip

Source: washington post

“As we think about the policy research surrounding the issues that I just named — policy research for the working poor, broadly defined — I think that what we're gonna have to do is somehow resuscitate the notion that government action can be effective at all. There has been a systematic, I don't think it's too strong to call it a propaganda campaign, against the possibility of government action and its efficacy. And I think some of it has been deserved. Chicago Housing Authority has not been a model of good policy making. And neither necessarily have been the Chicago public schools. What that means then is that as we try to resuscitate this notion that we're all in this thing together, leave nobody behind, we do have to be innovative in thinking how, what are the delivery systems that are actually effective and meet people where they live, and my suggestion I guess would be that the trick, and this is one of the few areas where I think there have to be technical issues that have to be dealt with as opposed to just political issues, how do we structure government systems that pool resources and hence facilitate some redistribution, because I actually believe in redistribution, at least at a certain level to make sure that everybody's got a shot. How do we pool resources at the same time as we decentralize delivery systems in ways that both foster competition, can work in the marketplace, and can foster innovation at the local level and can be tailored to particular communities.”
— State Sen. Barack Obama, at a conference at Loyola University, Oct. 1998 [missing section in bold]

Just as we have not been very impressed about many of the Obama campaign’s claims about Mitt Romney’s business career many years ago, we were not initially that impressed with the Romney campaign’s effort to dredge up a 14-year-old quote to demonstrate that President Obama wants to “redistribute wealth.” The clip was so old — he was just a state senator — and the context was rather unclear. Also, it appeared as if the YouTube version was clipped in mid-thought.

But now NBC News has obtained the rest of Obama’s comments, and it is clear his remarks were taken completely out of context. Obama is not talking about redistributing wealth at all — instead, he speaks about competition, the market place and innovation in an effort to improve government services in Chicago.

Nevertheless, the Romney campaign had seized on the remark as evidence of Obama’s apparently socialist tendencies. “You know, President Obama said he believes in redistribution,” GOP vice presidential nominee Paul Ryan said Tuesday. “Mitt Romney and I are not running to redistribute the wealth. Mitt Romney and I are running to help Americans create wealth.”

Read more: http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/fact-checker/post/4-pinocchios-for-a-truncated-14-year-old-obama-clip/2012/09/20/9b40f4b8-0330-11e2-91e7-2962c74e7738_blog.html



That's a lot of fucking pinocchios!





8 replies = new reply since forum marked as read
Highlight: NoneDon't highlight anything 5 newestHighlight 5 most recent replies
4 Pinocchios for a truncated, 14-year-old Obama clip (Original Post) trailmonkee Sep 2012 OP
Important info that must be shared - Hell Hath No Fury Sep 2012 #1
Repugs have to cheat. louis-t Sep 2012 #2
even out of context, I have no problem w/what O said 14 yrs. ago - where are the tax returns, Mitt? wordpix Sep 2012 #3
"Money Boo Boo" mahatmakanejeeves Sep 2012 #4
Translated, Ryan's comment really says... FLyellowdog Sep 2012 #5
But Romney and Ryan ARE running to redistribute wealth--to concentrate it even more at the top. tclambert Sep 2012 #6
K&R n/t Tx4obama Sep 2012 #7
I wish PBO was the Socialist they describe him as. Vincardog Sep 2012 #8

louis-t

(23,292 posts)
2. Repugs have to cheat.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 02:53 PM
Sep 2012

They have to lie, they have to steal. It's their way, and it's the ONLY way they can win now.

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,425 posts)
4. "Money Boo Boo"
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 03:16 PM
Sep 2012

The first comment I saw when I checked was this:

margaretmeyers wrote:
3:11 PM EDT
Of course, this is just more "facts we will ignore as w e T A L K O V E R Y O U !"

Money Boo Boo can't get anything right.


"Money Boo Boo" - I love it.

FLyellowdog

(4,276 posts)
5. Translated, Ryan's comment really says...
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 04:06 PM
Sep 2012

“Mitt Romney and I are not running to redistribute the wealth. Mitt Romney and I are running to help ALREADY WEALTHY Americans create MORE OF THEIR OWN wealth.”
IMHO

tclambert

(11,085 posts)
6. But Romney and Ryan ARE running to redistribute wealth--to concentrate it even more at the top.
Thu Sep 20, 2012, 05:07 PM
Sep 2012

They want to take what little is left to the masses and find a way to give it to the 1%.

Romney's complaint that 47% don't pay any income taxes implies he thinks they should. In his view, poor people should pay more taxes, while rich people pay less. That's his idea of fairness.

Latest Discussions»Latest Breaking News»4 Pinocchios for a trunca...