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BeyondGeography

(39,351 posts)
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:10 PM Oct 2019

Twitter to ban all political advertising, raising pressure on Facebook

Source: The Guardian

Twitter will ban all political advertising, the company’s chief executive officer Jack Dorsey announced on Wednesday, in a move that will increase pressure on Facebook over its controversial stance to allow politicians to advertise false statements.

The new policy, announced via Dorsey’s Twitter account, will come into effect on 22 November and will apply globally to all electioneering ads, as well as ads related to political issues. The timing means the ban will be in place in time for the UK snap election.

Twitter had previously implemented rules and restrictions for political advertising.

The announcement comes as Facebook is embroiled in a controversy over its decision to exempt ads by politicians from third-party fact-checking and from a policy that bans false statements from paid advertisements.

More to come...

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2019/oct/30/twitter-ban-political-advertising-us-election?CMP=Share_iOSApp_Other

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Twitter to ban all political advertising, raising pressure on Facebook (Original Post) BeyondGeography Oct 2019 OP
Good! 2naSalit Oct 2019 #1
I wonder, though... Qutzupalotl Oct 2019 #9
Jack Dorsey's tweet string starts here BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #2
Beat me by a second. BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #3
Happens once a year BeyondGeography Oct 2019 #4
.... BumRushDaShow Oct 2019 #7
Well God Bless! calimary Oct 2019 #24
Every company should do this as the 2016 elections proved how easy it is for a foreign nation cstanleytech Oct 2019 #5
Good move. You can't both a place people trust daily and filled with hatefilled lies applegrove Oct 2019 #6
Thread: demmiblue Oct 2019 #8
Wonderful statement! stuffmatters Oct 2019 #13
Certainly is. JudyM Oct 2019 #18
Wow! Ok Facebook - the whole world is watching... nt. BlueIdaho Oct 2019 #10
But they'll still post Twittler's lies, correct? durablend Oct 2019 #11
Don't know BUT bluestarone Oct 2019 #12
Good! SunSeeker Oct 2019 #14
No problem. Facebook and Russia and Saudi Arabia buy Twitter. keithbvadu2 Oct 2019 #15
I was going to bring up "issue advertising" but I see that's included which is good PSPS Oct 2019 #16
Like promoting a book by Al Gore on climate change jberryhill Oct 2019 #27
That was actually a PSA which was run free of charge. It was produced by the Ad Council. PSPS Oct 2019 #29
So? jberryhill Oct 2019 #30
This message was self-deleted by its author DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #32
Excellent news. iluvtennis Oct 2019 #17
My crazy bold take on it bucolic_frolic Oct 2019 #19
Good. Does that include Fat Nixon's chest thumping? sinkingfeeling Oct 2019 #20
Cool...now ban Orange Hitler pecosbob Oct 2019 #21
Doesn't self-promotion count as advertising? n/t ET Awful Oct 2019 #22
Meanwhile, Zuck the Schmuck continues to play dumb. Hassler Oct 2019 #23
Excellent! warmfeet Oct 2019 #25
What is "political advertising"? jberryhill Oct 2019 #26
It's paying for "reach", micro-targeting and all of that DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #33
Should have happened *YEARS* ago! Initech Oct 2019 #28
Good move DeminPennswoods Oct 2019 #31
Fuck twitter, fuck Fakebook, fuck Trump, fuck Russia olddad65 Oct 2019 #34

Qutzupalotl

(14,289 posts)
9. I wonder, though...
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:19 PM
Oct 2019

where else but Facebook will they go? Facebook is still the biggest social media outlet as far as I know. And their policies on political ads are arbitrary and suck. So I fear this will drive our candidates into a minefield, where they will get tons of negative and false feedback.

BumRushDaShow

(128,514 posts)
3. Beat me by a second.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:14 PM
Oct 2019


Big news!

Tweeted announcement -



TEXT
jack 🌍🌏🌎

@jack

We’ve made the decision to stop all political advertising on Twitter globally. We believe political message reach should be earned, not bought. Why? A few reasons…🧵
5,973
4:05 PM - Oct 30, 2019

BumRushDaShow

(128,514 posts)
7. ....
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:17 PM
Oct 2019




(I'm trying to set up lights for my citrus trees that I'm bringing in for winter and have CSPAN3 running on 2 floors while I go back and forth doing that and posting here )

cstanleytech

(26,238 posts)
5. Every company should do this as the 2016 elections proved how easy it is for a foreign nation
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:16 PM
Oct 2019

to influence another one via targeted propaganda..

applegrove

(118,499 posts)
6. Good move. You can't both a place people trust daily and filled with hatefilled lies
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:17 PM
Oct 2019

from your enemies during an election. It doesn't work as a business model.

demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
8. Thread:
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 04:19 PM
Oct 2019


We’ve made the decision to stop all political advertising on Twitter globally. We believe political message reach should be earned, not bought. Why? A few reasons…🧵

A political message earns reach when people decide to follow an account or retweet. Paying for reach removes that decision, forcing highly optimized and targeted political messages on people. We believe this decision should not be compromised by money.

While internet advertising is incredibly powerful and very effective for commercial advertisers, that power brings significant risks to politics, where it can be used to influence votes to affect the lives of millions.

Internet political ads present entirely new challenges to civic discourse: machine learning-based optimization of messaging and micro-targeting, unchecked misleading information, and deep fakes. All at increasing velocity, sophistication, and overwhelming scale.

These challenges will affect ALL internet communication, not just political ads. Best to focus our efforts on the root problems, without the additional burden and complexity taking money brings. Trying to fix both means fixing neither well, and harms our credibility.

For instance, it‘s not credible for us to say: “We’re working hard to stop people from gaming our systems to spread misleading info, buuut if someone pays us to target and force people to see their political ad…well...they can say whatever they want! 😉”

We considered stopping only candidate ads, but issue ads present a way to circumvent. Additionally, it isn’t fair for everyone but candidates to buy ads for issues they want to push. So we're stopping these too.

We’re well aware we‘re a small part of a much larger political advertising ecosystem. Some might argue our actions today could favor incumbents. But we have witnessed many social movements reach massive scale without any political advertising. I trust this will only grow.

In addition, we need more forward-looking political ad regulation (very difficult to do). Ad transparency requirements are progress, but not enough. The internet provides entirely new capabilities, and regulators need to think past the present day to ensure a level playing field.

We’ll share the final policy by 11/15, including a few exceptions (ads in support of voter registration will still be allowed, for instance). We’ll start enforcing our new policy on 11/22 to provide current advertisers a notice period before this change goes into effect.

A final note. This isn’t about free expression. This is about paying for reach. And paying to increase the reach of political speech has significant ramifications that today’s democratic infrastructure may not be prepared to handle. It’s worth stepping back in order to address.

https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1189634360472829952.html

keithbvadu2

(36,667 posts)
15. No problem. Facebook and Russia and Saudi Arabia buy Twitter.
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:15 PM
Oct 2019

No problem. Facebook and Russia and Saudi Arabia buy Twitter.

PSPS

(13,580 posts)
16. I was going to bring up "issue advertising" but I see that's included which is good
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 05:19 PM
Oct 2019

Back in the old days, when media companies acted like trusted members of the community instead of whores (anything for ad money,) the standard practice was to refuse all "issue advertising." All advertising had to promote either a specific product or a specific service. The only exception was political campaign ads for a specific candidate and those had to conform to the company's standards and practices (i.e., the same content guidelines applied to all of its programming and advertising.) Back then, a broadcast (over-the-air) station could actually lose their license to operate.

But, then came Raygun and deregulation. And the FCC has been "captured" now, although its reach has never included cable/satellite/internet programming. Those operate purely at the whim of their owners, like zuckerberg, and they're blatant whores and not "trusted members of the community."

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
30. So?
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:45 PM
Oct 2019

Neither of those statements answers the question of whether it is political advertising.

What if it was the identical spot, produced by an environmental group and paid to run?

Are you saying that would make a difference?

If so, then explain the difference. The same viewers see the same spot with the same content. But, if people the viewers don't even know paid for it or not, then that makes it "political advertising"?

Explain what difference it makes whether it was produced by the Ad Council or the Sierra Club.

Response to jberryhill (Reply #30)

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
25. Excellent!
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:08 PM
Oct 2019

Perhaps we can learn something from this shit show - like preserving a Democracy.

Well, maybe not. Let's see how it plays out.

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
26. What is "political advertising"?
Wed Oct 30, 2019, 07:13 PM
Oct 2019

Do they have a working definition of "political advertising"?

Are any of the following things "political advertising":

1. I write a book critical of a candidate for office, I want to advertise the sale of my book.

2. I produce a movie about hunger and poverty. I want to advertise my movie.

3. I am a candidate for office who has written a book about economics. I want to advertise my book.

4. I am an ex-Trump administration official who is doing a lecture tour critical of Trump. I want to advertise my lectures.


Which of those things are "political advertising"? Maybe I should post this as poll.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
33. It's paying for "reach", micro-targeting and all of that
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:04 AM
Oct 2019

Dorsey explains:

A political message earns reach when people decide to follow an account or retweet. Paying for reach removes that decision, forcing highly optimized and targeted political messages on people. We believe this decision should not be compromised by money.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
31. Good move
Thu Oct 31, 2019, 12:01 AM
Oct 2019

Zuckerberg said political ads were about 1% of facebook ad revenue. They are the same relation as a fly to an elephant. A global ban could be easily instituted and hardly dent facebook's revenue stream.

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