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Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:48 PM

Republicans urge Bevin to provide proof of election fraud or 'let it go' and concede

Source: Kentucky.com

Republicans urge Bevin to provide proof of election fraud or 'let it go' and concede
BY DANIEL DESROCHERS
NOVEMBER 07, 2019 03:51 PM, UPDATED 41 MINUTES AGO

A growing number of Republican lawmakers are urging Kentucky Gov. Matt Bevin, a fellow Republican, to either provide evidence of the voting "irregularities" he has alleged or concede Tuesday's election to Gov.-elect Andy Beshear, who defeated him by 5,189 votes.

"The best thing to do, the right thing to do, is for Governor Bevin to concede the election today so we can move on," said Rep. Jason Nemes, R-Louisville.

Senate President Robert Stivers, R-Manchester, first raised the possibility of the tight election being decided by the Republican-led legislature Tuesday night when he explained the process that would occur if Bevin decided to challenge the results of the race. Bevin bolstered that speculation Wednesday by claiming that thousands of absentee ballots were counted illegally without presenting any proof to back up his claim. (1)

Republicans in the legislature aren't buying it. ... Nemes said he has not seen much support for an election challenge among his Republican colleagues in the House, largely because the governor has not backed up his claims. None of the lawmakers the Herald-Leader spoke to Thursday said they had seen evidence to support Bevin's claims.
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(1) https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article237063654.html


Read more: https://www.kentucky.com/news/politics-government/article237113614.html





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Reply Republicans urge Bevin to provide proof of election fraud or 'let it go' and concede (Original post)
mahatmakanejeeves Nov 7 OP
Maeve Nov 7 #1
mahatmakanejeeves Nov 7 #2
Maeve Nov 7 #5
JustABozoOnThisBus Nov 7 #23
Flaleftist Nov 7 #3
ProudMNDemocrat Nov 7 #7
fleur-de-lisa Nov 7 #4
Cirque du So-What Nov 7 #16
calimary Nov 7 #36
onetexan Nov 7 #37
NBachers Nov 7 #6
ejbr Nov 7 #9
Lucky Luciano Nov 7 #15
kevink077 Nov 7 #14
bitterross Nov 7 #22
Wounded Bear Nov 7 #8
cstanleytech Nov 7 #13
LisaM Nov 7 #26
Wounded Bear Nov 7 #29
klook Nov 7 #24
EveHammond13 Nov 7 #10
kevink077 Nov 7 #11
cstanleytech Nov 7 #12
Bob Loblaw Nov 7 #17
napi21 Nov 7 #18
BumRushDaShow Nov 7 #19
patphil Nov 7 #20
Wounded Bear Nov 7 #31
patphil Nov 7 #38
groundloop Nov 7 #21
Bayard Nov 7 #25
DFW Nov 7 #27
pangaia Nov 7 #28
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 7 #30
PatSeg Nov 7 #32
Kurt V. Nov 7 #33
dflprincess Nov 7 #34
keithbvadu2 Nov 7 #35
mountain grammy Nov 7 #39
McCamy Taylor Nov 7 #40

Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:54 PM

1. Know when to hold 'em, know when to fold 'em, know when to walk away

know when to run!

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Response to Maeve (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:55 PM

2. I was thinking of linking to a Disney song, but I thought better of it. NT

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Reply #2)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:00 PM

5. Good choice

That one was all about being free to be yourself, not lording it over people

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Response to Maeve (Reply #1)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:20 PM

23. ... know when to flip the table, scattering cards and chips, and shoot the other players.

In other words, know when the Republican has lost.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:58 PM

3. That would be the smart move.

I can see trying to steal the governorship energizing Democrats even more for 2020.

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Response to Flaleftist (Reply #3)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:23 PM

7. Especially with Trump and McConnell on the top of the ticket in Kentucky....

And as more suburbs vote Democratic, along with those in the rural areas hurting because of low to no economic growth.

More Democrats running down ballot just might have a shot in Kentucky.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 04:59 PM

4. Wow. The pukes have come to their senses?

mind blown . . .

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:45 PM

16. Even.among repukes

Bevin is coming off as exceptionally whiny and conspiratorial. No partisan hack wants to hitch up to that wagon.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:28 PM

36. Nah. Their problem is a very unpopular soon-to-be-EX-Governor.

If Bevin’s reputation didn’t stink so bad, I’d expect them to try to fight for him. And, hopefully, to overturn the will of the people. Plus, if they thought there’d be any possibility of getting away with it, they’d likely go for it. They probably assume Bevin’s so toxic that they’re better off distancing themselves from him.

They don’t want to go down with HIS ship.

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Response to fleur-de-lisa (Reply #4)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:37 PM

37. it was the teachers that pushed votes for Beshear over the top

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:21 PM

6. Republican integrity???

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Response to NBachers (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:29 PM

9. +1

I was trying to find the catch, but there seems to be none.

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Response to ejbr (Reply #9)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:42 PM

15. Plausible deniability to steal 2020?

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Response to NBachers (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:40 PM

14. Not integrity .. but

They really do not like him either and now the safe political move is to call for him to concede. They will still have their majorities but he was likely more of a bully to people in his own party. Like that boss you cannot stand....

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Response to NBachers (Reply #6)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:14 PM

22. Doubtful. They must not like Bevins anymore than many GOP like Trump

I can't believe they have any integrity, ethics or proper desires. They must just really hate Bevins.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:26 PM

8. The optics of that would be really bad. Maybe they can see that?

The SoS is running an audit, right? Hopefully it comes back with zero to minimal discrepancies, making a legislative move look even worse.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:37 PM

13. Their fear might be based on the complete opposite as in they could be scared that

something they did and or were engaged in could be found out and come back to haunt them.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #13)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:42 PM

26. That's what I thought. Beshear may have won DESPITE their shenanigans

and if they start peeling the onion, it might affect other races, or at least totals.

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Response to LisaM (Reply #26)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:01 PM

29. Given the Repub party lately, I could see that...

It's the old "what happens if cheating doesn't work?" problem.

Consider also, McConnell has been winning lately even with crappy polls leading into election day. Would love to see KY continue the effort and depose him.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #8)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:26 PM

24. They still feel like they have to maintain SOME illusion of integrity.

They were hoping that by now they wouldn't even need to pretend, but they haven't managed to obliterate democracy.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:29 PM

10. if ballots (for him) were not counted why did all - ALL - the other state-wide GOP candidates win

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:33 PM

11. Haha so bitter

This win was very sweet. One of the biggest jerks in all of the Country, let along KY. A jerk like this will not give up power that easily, so nobody should be shocked here.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:35 PM

12. I wonder if they are urging him because its the right thing to do or because they are scared that

something else they are doing might be found out that could potentially land them in prison.
Personally I lean towards the wanting to avoid prison option as doing the right thing is almost unheard of for them.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:47 PM

17. Maybe he's trying to create the roadmap

for Trump to follow when he refuses to concede and vacate the executive mansion.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:49 PM

18. As I understand their law, Bevin must now go to a Judge and SHOW a reason thate the count might be

in question. If he can't do that, then NO RECOUNT!

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:55 PM

19. This is truly shocking that they wouldn't descend into the lunacy

except maybe for the reason that post #7 mentions with Turtle's job on the line (and apparently his approval rating is under water).

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 05:56 PM

20. The message I'm hearing here is that

Bevins isn't that well liked by the Republican Kentucky legislators, and Beshear would be acceptable to them as governor.
They don't want the controversy of a governor losing and then being reinstalled contrary to the will of the electorate.
It could make it harder for them to get reelected.
If they felt highly of Bevins, they might be willing to take the risk, but his numbers were already bad, and this would make them tank even more.
Better to lighten the load and live to fight another day.

Patrick Phillips

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Response to patphil (Reply #20)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:05 PM

31. Beshear sounds more like a centrist Dem than a Bernie clone...

and in KY, that's probably as far left as someone can wander and still get half the folks to pull the lever.

Plus, he promised to try to clean up the Repub fustercluck on Medicaid and ACA. I bet Repubs secretly want that done, but need a Dem in office to do it for them.

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Response to Wounded Bear (Reply #31)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 08:57 PM

38. Fustercluck...I love it.

I think you're right on that.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:06 PM

21. "thousands of absentee ballots were counted illegally" IOW they only want the RIGHT ballots counted

As with voter suppression efforts, repubs know that their path to winning is ensuring that only certain types of people vote. If there's a fair election where EVERYONE votes and with no ratfucking they'll lose bigly.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:28 PM

25. Sane people hate Bevin here

Especially teachers, and people on Medicaid.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:52 PM

27. Sounds like the Virginia Senate election when George Allen lost to Jim Webb

Allen was going to mount a challenge when he suddenly developed a severe case of permanent laryngitis. I take it someone told him that if the election vote tally was thoroughly examined, some Republican political operatives might find themselves behind bars, and it was safer to let Webb be seated. If a thorough examination of the Kentucky gubernatorial election were to be conducted, and it were to lead to Moscow Mitch wearing stripes that were NOT pinstripes on his suit, I assume someone will tell Bevin in no uncertain terms to accept the results and shut up, since the real results would probably increase the margin of his loss tenfold anyway.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 06:54 PM

28. "voting "irregularities" """"

screw that shit..
Whenever there is cheating it is ALWAYS the nazi fuckers doing it..

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:01 PM

30. Irregularities?

Someone get that man a laxative.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:06 PM

32. Bevin should be careful what he looks for

If there are any "irregularities" in Kentucky, its likely to be on the republican side. He might just expose his own party. Its possible that Beshear actually won by more votes.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:13 PM

33. he must be a real ass if his own party is saying this. ha!

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:21 PM

34. Does it count

If he provides proof of election fraud committed by Republicans?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 07:22 PM

35. Isn't it his own administration ensuring the integrity of the voting process?

Isn't it his own administration ensuring the integrity of the voting process?

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:10 PM

39. It's good to know the republican legislators

Aren’t as bad as Bevin.

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Response to mahatmakanejeeves (Original post)

Thu Nov 7, 2019, 09:20 PM

40. No. When Republicans lose they are call the democratic process fraudulent

And when they cheat, it is because God gave them the right to cheat.

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