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Judi Lynn

(160,503 posts)
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:08 PM Dec 2019

College students take aim at Atlanta's Henry Grady statue

Last edited Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:51 PM - Edit history (1)

Source: Associated Press

Jeff Martin, Associated Press
Updated 12:47 pm CST, Wednesday, December 4, 2019

ATLANTA (AP) — Some Georgia State University students are demanding that Atlanta's mayor remove a prominent statue of Henry Grady from downtown.

Grady was a 19th Century newspaper editor who advocated for a “New South” after the Civil War. A plaque on the statue, which was erected in 1891, describes him as a patriot.

But Grady also campaigned against equality for freed slaves, saying “the supremacy of the white race of the South must be maintained forever."

“Let us be clear in recognizing that Grady, as a journalist, promoted racism,” several student groups wrote in an editorial Tuesday in Georgia State's student newspaper. “Grady, as an orator, promoted racism. And Grady was certainly no patriot -- he was simply a racist."


Read more: https://www.chron.com/news/us/article/College-students-take-aim-at-Atlanta-s-Henry-14880926.php





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groundloop

(11,517 posts)
1. Grady Hospital in the heart of Atlanta is named after Henry Grady.....
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:16 PM
Dec 2019

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Maybe it could use a name change.

Grady is the fifth largest hospital in the US, and is one of the top trauma centers in the country.

MichMan

(11,899 posts)
5. Just shut it down altogether because people will keep calling it Grady
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 06:54 PM
Dec 2019

Even if there is a name change

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
6. That seems excessive
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 09:26 PM
Dec 2019

Whereas a name change seems perfectly reasonable in this case. I mean, I get that you're joking, but still. What's wrong with ending the honors for *literal* white supremacists? A community can make such choices, right?

hlthe2b

(102,190 posts)
2. Former mayor Stapleton of Denver--an overt racist-- lost his name on the replacement airport...
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:20 PM
Dec 2019

So, maybe their efforts will take hold. That said, I am not sure I could readily get used to a renamed Grady Hospital in Atlanta--their large and very historical public hospital. Still, looking around Atlanta there are a lot of likely targets for renaming or repurposing to get rid of some of the racist past.

Glorfindel

(9,725 posts)
3. Interesting. Henry Woodfin Grady was a distant relation of mine on my Mother's side
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 03:43 PM
Dec 2019

She had first cousins named Henry, Woodfin, and Grady. I attended Henry Grady Elementary School (long since defunct) in grades 1 through 8. Grady was a product of the 19th Century with all its misunderstandings, prejudices, and incorrect facts. If we set about removing or destroying every monument to 19th-Century historical figures who embraced positions seen as repulsive in the 21st Century, our demolition teams are going to be busy, busy, busy. Here's an interesting quote from that notorious racist, Abraham Lincoln:

"I will say then, that I am not nor ever have been in favor of making voters of the negroes, or jurors, or qualifying them to hold office, of having them to marry with white people. I will say in addition, that there is a physical difference between the white and black races, which I suppose, will forever forbid the two races living together upon terms of social and political equality, and inasmuch, as they cannot so live, that while they do remain together, there must be the position of superior and inferior, that I as much as any other man am in favor of the superior position being assigned to the white man."

...Harold Holzer, Lincoln-Douglas Debates, 1993

Source: https://www.snopes.com/fact-check/did-lincoln-racism-equality-oppose/

Having said all that, by all means demolish the monument to Henry W. Grady. What earthly difference could it make to anyone today? It might, actually, facilitate the flow of traffic, which is notoriously snarled and tangled in Atlanta.

summer_in_TX

(2,727 posts)
7. In Germany they don't erase their history.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:02 PM
Dec 2019

They put up plaques to explain the truth. I think there's a lot to say for figuring out a way to credit historical figures for their contributions to our history without whitewashing it.

For instance, there's no appropriate way to remove the slaveholders among our Founding Fathers from our history without losing highly important history. But Jefferson, Washington, and others were not one-dimensional heroes and their contradictions and the darker elements of their nature should be a part of the record.

A museum seems like the kind of place to receive statues that are removed. Their mandate should be to teach the nuances about the heroic statues—and the subtext as to just why those statues were erected, often as messages of supremacy and warnings to black people.

Aristus

(66,307 posts)
8. A plaque explaining history is different from a statue denoting heroism.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:28 PM
Dec 2019

I'm all for plaques keeping history alive. But let's ditch the statues of the slavers.

As for Washington, Jefferson, et al, at least they built a country, instead of trying to tear it apart.

summer_in_TX

(2,727 posts)
9. Yes, let's not sanitize and put perfume on a skunk.
Wed Dec 4, 2019, 10:45 PM
Dec 2019

And get the statues of "heroes" who promoted racism and had few redeeming qualities or mitigating circumstances off of their pedestals. Then teach what really happened.

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