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Eugene

(61,782 posts)
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:32 AM Dec 2019

New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption

Last edited Mon Dec 9, 2019, 10:18 AM - Edit history (2)

Source: BBC

an hour ago

A volcano has erupted in New Zealand, leaving five people dead and several unaccounted for, police have said.

Tourists were seen walking inside the crater of White Island volcano moments before Monday's eruption.

Twenty-three people have been rescued, but it is unclear how many people remained on the island. Police say aerial reconnaissance flights have not identified any sign of life there.

White Island, also called Whakaari, is the country's most active volcano.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-50708727



EDIT: article updated at link

Earlier BBC headlines:
• White Island volcano: People 'unaccounted for' after New Zealand eruption
• New Zealand volcano: At least one dead with number expected to rise

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Updated BBC report: New Zealand volcano: 'No sign of life' after White Island eruption

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Related: New Zealand volcano: no survivors on White Island, police believe – as it happened (The Guardian)

Previous Guardian headlines:
• New Zealand volcano: tourists injured and missing after eruption on White Island - live
• New Zealand volcano: one dead and 'likely to be more' after eruption on White Island - live
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New Zealand volcano: At least five dead after White Island eruption (Original Post) Eugene Dec 2019 OP
I have considered visiting New Zealand if I ever would have the money to do any traveling but I cstanleytech Dec 2019 #1
White Island is 30 miles off the coast of the North Island and SharonClark Dec 2019 #13
I am aware of both its location as well as its prior history of eruptions that is why I personally cstanleytech Dec 2019 #15
This message was self-deleted by its author greyl Dec 2019 #2
I've always wondered how quickly or without any obvios signs a volcano could go up ... marble falls Dec 2019 #3
From New Zealand, with video... KY_EnviroGuy Dec 2019 #4
This is horrifying. Those poor people and their family and friends...nt chowder66 Dec 2019 #5
I'm really sorry for their survivors, but am always left with the question... Hekate Dec 2019 #6
Really bad timing is all, and they say it will never happen to you...scary videos Baclava Dec 2019 #7
Most understand the concept perfectly well but few believe it'll ever happen to them. Rainbow Droid Dec 2019 #8
The term can be somewhat misleading MissB Dec 2019 #14
This one has been erupting pretty much non-stop for the last few hundred years Baclava Dec 2019 #17
Five confirmed dead now, 25ish still missing. meadowlander Dec 2019 #9
I can understand so-called adrenaline junkies who push the envelope but whose fate is in their hands hlthe2b Dec 2019 #10
Thought no survivors on island now - working to check who is missing muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #11
how many selfies can we count? pansypoo53219 Dec 2019 #12
Completely safe, no problems for the last three years. However, comma. keithbvadu2 Dec 2019 #16
Five people dead and eight missing after New Zealand volcanic eruption muriel_volestrangler Dec 2019 #18

cstanleytech

(26,209 posts)
1. I have considered visiting New Zealand if I ever would have the money to do any traveling but I
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 01:37 AM
Dec 2019

marked that island off the list of places long ago to ever visit precisely because it has a volatile history and I simply do not believe the risk are worth it.

SharonClark

(10,014 posts)
13. White Island is 30 miles off the coast of the North Island and
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:57 AM
Dec 2019

not much of a risk to the average tourist.


cstanleytech

(26,209 posts)
15. I am aware of both its location as well as its prior history of eruptions that is why I personally
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 11:44 AM
Dec 2019

believe its simply not worth the risk especially when there are far more places there that I could visit should I ever be fortunate enough to be able to do so.

Response to Eugene (Original post)

marble falls

(56,948 posts)
3. I've always wondered how quickly or without any obvios signs a volcano could go up ...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:04 AM
Dec 2019

now I know.

The volcano walk is now off the bucket list.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
4. From New Zealand, with video...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:35 AM
Dec 2019
Scientist: White Island eruption was 'basically instantaneous'
9 Dec, 2019 6:04pm

See: https://www.nzherald.co.nz/nz/news/article.cfm?c_id=1&objectid=12292325

(snips)
A volcanologist has described the quick-fire type of eruption at White Island today as "basically instantaneous". "One minute nothing's happening, next minute, it's all happening," GNS Science's Brad Scott said.

At about 2.11pm, the eruption fired a plume of ash 3.6km above the vent of the offshore Bay of Plenty volcano. The island's crater floor was littered with ash, which continued to fall on the island - but only a minor amount of the material was expected to reach the East Cape over the next few hours.

Monitoring showed there had been no signs of further eruption.




KY.........

Hekate

(90,496 posts)
6. I'm really sorry for their survivors, but am always left with the question...
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:46 AM
Dec 2019

What part of "active volcano" do tourists not understand?

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
7. Really bad timing is all, and they say it will never happen to you...scary videos
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:58 AM
Dec 2019

Yeah, I'll pass on walking on active volcanoes too

Rainbow Droid

(722 posts)
8. Most understand the concept perfectly well but few believe it'll ever happen to them.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 04:22 AM
Dec 2019

It's the same with other inherently dangerous activities like free climbing, base jumping, skydiving, skateboarding, hell even surfing and snorkeling can be highly dangerous in numerous locations around the world.

But almost nobody considers that they might be a statistic, and the human brain tends to automatically minimize the perception of risks in a direct correlation to the level of desire the person has for engaging in said activity: If you really want to do something, and the perceived risk would otherwise stop you, you will not accurately perceive the risk. I know there are exceptions, but this is essentially how the human brain works, and such thinking is the rule rather than the exception.

Confirmation bias can be a very dangerous thing.

MissB

(15,803 posts)
14. The term can be somewhat misleading
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:58 AM
Dec 2019

“Active volcano” generally means that it’s erupted in the past 10,000 years.

By that definition, Mt. Hood in Oregon is an active volcano. This time of year, there are tons of skiers all over the mountain. Not one of them worries about it erupting.

That being said, sounds like the tour operator shouldn’t have been taking folks out to this island.

 

Baclava

(12,047 posts)
17. This one has been erupting pretty much non-stop for the last few hundred years
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 02:08 PM
Dec 2019


note helicopter covered in ash




hlthe2b

(102,061 posts)
10. I can understand so-called adrenaline junkies who push the envelope but whose fate is in their hands
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:08 AM
Dec 2019

but this is something very different--much like Russian Roulette--that I have NEVER understood. They have no control over the outcome. It isn't a feat of skill over risk, but merely fate.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,258 posts)
11. Thought no survivors on island now - working to check who is missing
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 08:28 AM
Dec 2019
'No signs of life' seen on White Island

New Zealand police said early on Tuesday morning local time that they did not believe there were any survivors on White Island following Monday’s eruption.

Just after midnight, officers said in a statement that after reconnaissance flights over the island, “no signs of life had been seen at any point”.

“Police believe that anyone who could have been taken from the island alive was rescued at the time of the evacuation,” a statement said.
...
Officers are “urgently” working to confirm the exact number of those who have died, in addition to the five already known to be dead. They had earlier said as many as 27 people had been stranded on the island after the eruption.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2019/dec/09/new-zealand-volcano-tourists-injured-and-missing-after-eruption-on-white-island-live?page=with:block-5dee2e7f8f08e7796de8f552#block-5dee2e7f8f08e7796de8f552

keithbvadu2

(36,622 posts)
16. Completely safe, no problems for the last three years. However, comma.
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 12:15 PM
Dec 2019

Completely safe, no problems for the last three years.

However, comma.

Karma, fate, bad jos that you were walking the trail at just that moment.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,258 posts)
18. Five people dead and eight missing after New Zealand volcanic eruption
Mon Dec 9, 2019, 03:46 PM
Dec 2019
Five people have died and eight are still missing following an eruption on a volcanic island in New Zealand, the country’s prime minister, Jacinda Ardern, has said.

She said that New Zealanders and tourists from Australia, the US, Britain, China and Malaysia were among the missing and injured. New Zealand police do not expect to find any more survivors on White Island, where two explosions in quick succession sent up a huge plume of ash that could be seen from the North Island.

Some 31 people remain in hospital after three people were discharged overnight. In total, 47 people visited the island on Monday.

Ardern praised the efforts of first responders, including a number of helicopters that rescued people from the island. “All of us would want to acknowledge the efforts they went to to ensure that everyone who could be evacuated was,” said Ardern.

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2019/dec/09/new-zealand-eruption-dead-missing-white-island
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