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Seedersandleechers

(3,044 posts)
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 05:31 PM Dec 2019

300 Saudi military aviation students grounded in U.S. after base shooting

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - Roughly 300 Saudi Arabian military aviation students have been grounded as part of a “safety stand-down” after a Saudi Air Force lieutenant shot and killed three people last week at a U.S. Navy base in Florida, U.S. officials told Reuters on Tuesday.

The FBI has said U.S. investigators believe Saudi Air Force Second Lieutenant Mohammed Saeed Alshamrani, 21, acted alone when he attacked a U.S. Navy base in Pensacola, Florida, on Friday, before he was fatally shot by a deputy sheriff.

The shootings have again raised questions about the U.S. military relationship with Saudi Arabia, which has come under heightened scrutiny in Congress over the war in Yemen and Saudi Arabia’s killing of Washington Post columnist Jamal Khashoggi last year.

Still, U.S. military leaders have sought to portray this as a localized issue which would not affect the overall U.S.-Saudi relationship.

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-usa-saudi-military-exclusive-idUSKBN1YE2GY



https://www.nytimes.com/2019/12/10/us/pensacola-florida-shooting-saudi-students.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage
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300 Saudi military aviation students grounded in U.S. after base shooting (Original Post) Seedersandleechers Dec 2019 OP
This message was self-deleted by its author dewsgirl Dec 2019 #1
Terrorism doesn't happen under Republican administrations. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #3
😔 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #6
Also, Saudi Arabia is our very good friend and ally, and would never harm us in any way. AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #7
Of course not. Never.🙄 dewsgirl Dec 2019 #8
After the recent confirmation that Afghanistan is just Vietnam Round 2, i'm just fully AtheistCrusader Dec 2019 #14
Is that a bone saw in your pocket or are you just happy to see me? abqtommy Dec 2019 #12
Hugh Hewitt and the Washington Examiner? What are you doing posting that here? nt chowder66 Dec 2019 #15
I deleted it. dewsgirl Dec 2019 #16
About friggin time!!! Wellstone ruled Dec 2019 #2
Good Sherman A1 Dec 2019 #4
Only fair, until they're all vetted and interviewed beyond their admission intake contact. "Acting ancianita Dec 2019 #5
Racial profiling... TomVilmer Dec 2019 #9
No, not race. Country of origin, not to mention military training is not a civil right lostnfound Dec 2019 #13
If there was a caucasian Saudi airman training Sapient Donkey Dec 2019 #19
yes on the caucasian part, no on the UK or France...unless they have religious fanatics who's people Demonaut Dec 2019 #21
Until the Saudi King calls Trump Seedersandleechers Dec 2019 #10
"Send them back where they came from"... B Stieg Dec 2019 #11
On February 15, 1979 . . . Haggis for Breakfast Dec 2019 #17
As well they shoud be. Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Dec 2019 #18
That's a little nutty jberryhill Dec 2019 #20

Response to Seedersandleechers (Original post)

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
3. Terrorism doesn't happen under Republican administrations.
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 05:44 PM
Dec 2019

Except when it does, but then it's Bill Clinton's fault.

AtheistCrusader

(33,982 posts)
14. After the recent confirmation that Afghanistan is just Vietnam Round 2, i'm just fully
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:56 PM
Dec 2019

jaded and unable to respond to issues like this with anything other than derision and sarcasm, because at long last, we're the bad guys.

ancianita

(35,812 posts)
5. Only fair, until they're all vetted and interviewed beyond their admission intake contact. "Acting
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 05:46 PM
Dec 2019

alone" should never dismiss the cultural context from which acting alone might arise as a rule for solving conflict.

lostnfound

(16,138 posts)
13. No, not race. Country of origin, not to mention military training is not a civil right
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 06:44 PM
Dec 2019

No issue with picking and choosing which foreigners get training on military bases

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
19. If there was a caucasian Saudi airman training
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 01:28 AM
Dec 2019

Do you believe he would also be grounded due to him being Saudi? If so, how does that fit into the racial profiling? Also, do you know of any non-saudi military pilots from countries in the region who are also being grounded?

I suppose another question we could ask ourselves is if the shooter was from the UK or France or something, would there be a similar grounding. I'm not really sure, but I tend to think not. I would anticipate a response to that question would be 'does the UK or France have a history of exporting terrorism (or something similar)', and the citing of the line in the article that states changes in procedures will be applied to all students in the future. To which I would then expect a long discussion on what constitutes terrorism and exporting it. Forget this, I'm just going to go play solitaire.

Demonaut

(8,909 posts)
21. yes on the caucasian part, no on the UK or France...unless they have religious fanatics who's people
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 11:03 AM
Dec 2019

"muslims" including children and women, we killed as collateral damage

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
17. On February 15, 1979 . . .
Tue Dec 10, 2019, 09:57 PM
Dec 2019

Heavily-armed Iranian guerillas stormed and attacked the US Embassy in Teheran. They trapped US ambassador William Sullivan and about 100 members of his staff in the building, shelling it for THREE DAYS. At that time, I was stationed at NATTC Memphis, TN (Naval Aviation Tactical Training Command in Millington, TN). There were hundred of Iranians on base being trained in various capacities of aviation, including basic flight training. They were GONE in less than 24 hours, deported back to Iran.

There IS precedent for expelling foreign military trainees. ALL Saudi personnel should be IMMEDIATELY SENT BACK .

 

jberryhill

(62,444 posts)
20. That's a little nutty
Wed Dec 11, 2019, 10:17 AM
Dec 2019

We train pilots from all over the world, who are sent by the governments who buy our planes.
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