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riversedge

(70,197 posts)
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 09:49 PM Dec 2019

Lindsey Graham invites Rudy Giuliani to Judiciary panel to discuss recent Ukraine visit

Source: politico




By BURGESS EVERETT 12/14/2019 03:32 PM EST

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In an interview airing on Face the Nation Sunday, the Senate Judiciary Committee chairman said that Giuliani, who is serving as the president’s personal attorney, could appear before his committee separately from the impending Senate impeachment trial.



“Rudy, if you want to come and tell us what you found, I'll be glad to talk to you,” Graham said. “We can look at what Rudy's got and Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and anything else you want to look at after impeachment. But if Rudy wants to come to the Judiciary Committee and testify about what he found, he's welcome to do so.”



Giuliani traveled to Ukraine earlier this month to gather information intended to discredit the House’s impeachment probe, which focuses on Trump pressuring the Ukrainian president to investigate the Bidens. Giuliani was spotted at the White House on Friday.

Graham said he didn’t know what material Giuliani had gathered. ...............................

Read more: https://www.politico.com/news/2019/12/14/lindsey-graham-rudy-giuliani-ukraine-085061







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Lindsey Graham invites Rudy Giuliani to Judiciary panel to discuss recent Ukraine visit (Original Post) riversedge Dec 2019 OP
be careful, Lyndsey old buddy. Rudy opens that mouth and who knows rurallib Dec 2019 #1
Mitch n Lindsey seem awfully confident in their futures, what NoMoreRepugs Dec 2019 #2
Why talk to Rudy? Cartoonist Dec 2019 #3
They couldn't get the Ukrainian president to spout their conspiracy theories about the Bidens csziggy Dec 2019 #35
Watch out what you wish for. Sneederbunk Dec 2019 #4
+1,000 my thought exactly Canoe52 Dec 2019 #13
Under oath? QED Dec 2019 #5
This is intended to perform the same function as Zelensky's scuttled CNN interview PSPS Dec 2019 #6
Amazing. Within the impeachment process itself, still getting what they wanted. Dirt on Biden. TheFourthMind Dec 2019 #7
The gop is using Scarsdale Dec 2019 #20
Even if they did find something on Biden, it would not exonerate trumpft. Merlot Dec 2019 #30
Rudy can say whatever he wants. Trump will still be an impeached president. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #8
Parties usually pick Scarsdale Dec 2019 #21
They scrape the bottom of the barrel because they want to sabotage gov't Merlot Dec 2019 #31
If George W. Bush was the GOP's "best and brightest" we're sunk. LastLiberal in PalmSprings Dec 2019 #34
Of course it will be under oath right Lindsey or are you afraid of what he might say? cstanleytech Dec 2019 #9
Calling Senator Harris Me. Dec 2019 #10
If he is called in to testify ... rickford66 Dec 2019 #11
First question Scarsdale Dec 2019 #22
Yes Please Do Put Rudy Under Oath! BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #12
Of all the things they can do with Rudy, putting him under oath will never happen. n/t CincyDem Dec 2019 #14
Too True. BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #18
Make it so! DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #15
I hope it public , live broadcast even better. kacekwl Dec 2019 #16
He should be cross examined about any security clearances truthisfreedom Dec 2019 #17
Let the idiot in the corner speak. djacq Dec 2019 #19
Every time this little traitor Scarsdale Dec 2019 #23
Little Lindsey would look great in orange, IMHO. rickyhall Dec 2019 #24
Schumer should call Lev and Igor as the next witnesses.... Evolve Dammit Dec 2019 #25
The fascists have been planning all along to turn the jury part into an anti Biden, pro tRump yaesu Dec 2019 #26
Televise it and bring plenty of popcorn. ProudMNDemocrat Dec 2019 #27
This trial is not about the Bidens Bayard Dec 2019 #28
Yepper spot on.............................more deflection from the enabler from the right.......... turbinetree Dec 2019 #29
Two points with this. usaf-vet Dec 2019 #32
By all means, lets invite Rudy so Democrats can question him and he can plead the fifth ... marble falls Dec 2019 #33
Nadler: Giuliani trip to Ukraine shows "crime in progress" is being committed Linda Ed Dec 2019 #36
"....anything else you want to look at after impeachment" LiberalLovinLug Dec 2019 #37
Rudy admits in New Yorker interview that DeminPennswoods Dec 2019 #38

NoMoreRepugs

(9,417 posts)
2. Mitch n Lindsey seem awfully confident in their futures, what
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:07 PM
Dec 2019

else could explain the BIZARRE statements from these two the last few days?? They are not dumb guys. Might it be that they know they cant possibly lose an election while Uncle Pootie is in their corner?

csziggy

(34,136 posts)
35. They couldn't get the Ukrainian president to spout their conspiracy theories about the Bidens
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 04:03 PM
Dec 2019

But Rudy will be happy to elaborate on the theme.

The GOP doesn't care about the truth, they just want their version of reality to be validated by becoming part of the record.

PSPS

(13,593 posts)
6. This is intended to perform the same function as Zelensky's scuttled CNN interview
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:26 PM
Dec 2019

trump was shaking down Zelensky to get him to announce a phony "investigation" on a CNN interview which would then be used in campaign stops, commercials, fox, etc. Unless he did so, no military aid (even though already approved by congress) and no visit to the white house.

trump got caught and released the aid to try and escape culpability, hence the impeachment.

What to do? Bring in Rudy to blather on about the same made-up thing, and use it in campaign stops, commercials, fox, etc.

(By the way, Zelensky still has no visit to the white house and, of course, not even a tweet of support before his meeting putin.)

TheFourthMind

(343 posts)
7. Amazing. Within the impeachment process itself, still getting what they wanted. Dirt on Biden.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:38 PM
Dec 2019

Real dirt? Probably not, but that really doesn't matter.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
20. The gop is using
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:03 AM
Dec 2019

this Biden nothingburger, like they used Hillary's e-mails and non-secure phone. Nothing there, but act outraged as though there is. Who ever heard of a jury being polled before the trial? The gop are telling us outright, they will NOT follow rules of law. They know something the rest of us do not, to be so outspoken.

Merlot

(9,696 posts)
30. Even if they did find something on Biden, it would not exonerate trumpft.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:25 PM
Dec 2019

This trial isn't about Biden, it's about trumpft withholding taxpayer dollars for political favors.

8. Rudy can say whatever he wants. Trump will still be an impeached president.
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 10:38 PM
Dec 2019

And there's no way that can be erased from the history books.

The books will provide all the factual evidence presented to support the impeachment. Then it will give Moscow Mitch's pre-trial bragging that Trump would win, no matter what. The conclusion will be left for the reader to draw. If they prefer a monarchy, i.e., "The King can do no wrong," they'll see the Dems as the bad guys. If they believe in the rule of law, as many claim, there will be many questions about how such a corrupt individual could not only be selected for the highest office of the land, but how he could do whatever the f*ck he wanted and never be held accountable.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
21. Parties usually pick
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:06 AM
Dec 2019

their "best and brightest" After watching the stupid antics at the hearings, I think tRump WAS their best and brightest. The gop sure scrapes the very bottom of their barrels for representatives.

34. If George W. Bush was the GOP's "best and brightest" we're sunk.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:41 PM
Dec 2019

Against Dubya the Dems ran Al Gore, who chose to serve in Vietnam (albeit not in a combat position, he still went willingly), served as senator and vice president, and was an award winning producer of "An Inconvenient Truth."

Gore lost, because Bush was "someone you'd like to have a beer with."

Next time against Dubya, the Dems ran John Kerry, a real war hero and senator.

Kerry lost.

When Trump ran, we ran Hillary Clinton, whose intelligence, accomplishments and service to her country as senator and Secretary of State uniquely qualified her to lead both the country and free world.

Trump was a con man best known as a "reality" show performer with a signature catch phrase and his name on everything he could see.

He was also a Russian asset, either knowingly or unknowingly (more likely).

Trump ran because he tapped into the racist underbelly of American society (the people who never forgave O.J. for literally getting away with murder) and the misogynistic attitudes of a large percentage of men and some women, to whom "grab them by the pussy" was acceptable. He also won the evangelical voters, who were willing to overlook his three marriages and cheating on each of his wives because he promised to appoint only judges and justices who would overturn Roe v. Wade.

Hillary lost.

The GOP has no desire to provide the country with the best and brightest. They have no desire to serve the needs -- and now apparently the security -- of their country. They want one thing and one thing only -- power. Trump is the end product of that goal, writ large for all to see.

And so they are willing to literally bend reality, break their oaths to protect and defend the Constitution, and cheat in any way possible (voter suppression being the most obvious) to gain and retain power.

The GOP has zero interest in serving the average person of the United States.

I've lately been watching YouTube videos about Lior Suchard, a mentalist who, among other things, has the mind-boggling ability to influence people into doing what he wants them to, as shown here:


(begin at 3:45)

In this case he influences an entire audience to do the same drawing, each thinking they are using their "free will." "I don't know what you're thinking; I know how you're thinking," Suchard explains.

That's just one man working alone. Expand that to nearly unlimited resources and mind-influencing disinformation campaigns -- many initiated and managed by the Russians -- and I now see what we are truly up against. We can never give even an inch to the GOP. The Republican Party is no longer the opposition but the enemy.

The Repugs clearly see this as a war. No, not a war, because war has rules, which the U.S. strives to follow, whether the other side follows or not. (One part of these rules is delineated by the Uniform Code of Military Justice, which Trump just trashed.) They acknowledge no limitations or rules on their never ending quest for power.

To save our country -- and not just the party -- we need never give them an inch. We must fight at hard as they do, without the ruthlessness.

rickford66

(5,523 posts)
11. If he is called in to testify ...
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 11:20 PM
Dec 2019

and each Democratic Senator gets 5 minutes, one or more of them should just stare at him for the full 5 minutes. Not say a word. Watch him squirm and beads of sweat drip off his forehead.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
12. Yes Please Do Put Rudy Under Oath!
Sat Dec 14, 2019, 11:37 PM
Dec 2019

I’d love to have a few of our best Senators hand him his head on a plate.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
18. Too True.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:20 AM
Dec 2019

So much of Trump’s BS is gaslighting - just like the fact it wasn’t important for the Ukraine to actually investigate Biden, just get that story out in the M$M. This is literally the same shit. It’s not important if Crazy Rudy found “paydirt” - only that the story circulates in the M$M.

This coming election will be the dirtiest, most disgusting and corrupt bit American history ever. Trump will see to that.

truthisfreedom

(23,146 posts)
17. He should be cross examined about any security clearances
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:10 AM
Dec 2019

And any state secrets he may have been privy to.

He’s not a government employee. He’s a private party with nefarious criminal associates who are about to enter prison.

Scarsdale

(9,426 posts)
23. Every time this little traitor
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 06:25 AM
Dec 2019

appears on TV, clips of his speaking the truth about his true feelings on tRump should be played. Among other statements he made was this gem "If Donald Trump is elected, it will be the death of the republican party, and we will deserve it" I am sincerely hoping that for once, Graham was correct. Watching the antics of Gym Jordan, Goetz, Collins and Gohmert, the descent began a long time ago. These representatives are too dumb to hold office.

yaesu

(8,020 posts)
26. The fascists have been planning all along to turn the jury part into an anti Biden, pro tRump
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:16 AM
Dec 2019

campaign rally.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,784 posts)
27. Televise it and bring plenty of popcorn.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:17 AM
Dec 2019

Swear Rudy in and watch him LIE his ass off. Then Have the SDNY come in and issue warrants for his arrest in connection to the FRAUD case against Lev and Igor .

Bayard

(22,062 posts)
28. This trial is not about the Bidens
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 10:58 AM
Dec 2019

Its about tRump malfeasance, and his threat to the country's security.

turbinetree

(24,695 posts)
29. Yepper spot on.............................more deflection from the enabler from the right..........
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 11:05 AM
Dec 2019

and it's called treason...................

usaf-vet

(6,181 posts)
32. Two points with this.
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 12:56 PM
Dec 2019

One: Graham said. “We can look at what Rudy's got and Joe Biden, Hunter Biden and anything else you want to look at after impeachment.

Even Graham realizes that this is a political stunt that could backfire badly. If it happens before the impeachment Rudy could very well spill some unintentional stuff that would swing even the staunches RWers to vote to impeach. Giuliani is a loaded gun with a hair-trigger.

AND TWO: Testify under oath... right!

My guess is this will never happen. No one with half a brain would bring a loaded gun into a congressional hearing.

POLITICAL STUNT,POLITICAL STUNT,POLITICAL STUNT,POLITICAL STUNT,POLITICAL STUNT

marble falls

(57,079 posts)
33. By all means, lets invite Rudy so Democrats can question him and he can plead the fifth ...
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 01:39 PM
Dec 2019

I'd pay per view to see that. 'Specially when he implicates Lindsey.

Linda Ed

(493 posts)
36. Nadler: Giuliani trip to Ukraine shows "crime in progress" is being committed
Sun Dec 15, 2019, 09:23 PM
Dec 2019

Impeaching Trump hit a record high of 54% in a Fox News poll that was released on Sunday. Fusion GPS Founders Lay Waste To GOP Lies About Steele Dossier
Glenn Simpson and Peter Fritsch have a message for the Republican liars out there: They know the truth and who is lying and they're not afraid to say so. For example, the Republican claim that Democrats paid for the Steele dossier, all of it. This is a lie.

https://crooksandliars.com/2019/12/fusion-gps-founders-debunk-republican-lies

LiberalLovinLug

(14,173 posts)
37. "....anything else you want to look at after impeachment"
Mon Dec 16, 2019, 03:04 PM
Dec 2019
after impeachment

I think we have to prepare ourselves for what's coming after the impeachment trial is over. And Trump is "exonerated" by the Senate. The Republicans know they will be skating on thin ice, with many Americans, in so simply dismising the case.

So Graham's statement about "after" is an indication of their plan post-impeachment. They will immediately hold sham hearings, to deflect, and derail any more talk of Trump's clear bribery and obstruction. Rudy will have the spotlight, and he will testify about NEW developments in the GROWING HUNTER BIDEN SCANDAL! New information proving it was Ukraine that interfered with the election. They'll probably even throw in some Clinton or Obama link in there. Unlike Democrats, they will drag out their hearings for maximum exposure. Months and months, longer than the impeachment process, until even the MSM will have long forgotten about the impeachment, as they have with Mueller's report now. The news cycles will be focused on on the latest gossip from Rudy's "very real" secret informants from Ukraine, and the MSM will be running; "Will these latest shocking revelations hurt Joe Biden and the Democrats?!"

Frankly I don't know how to stop it from happening either. By the time next November comes around, the GOP want the heads of, at the very least, all of their traditional voters to be so overloaded with these counter hearings that are designed to "prove" Trump innocent, or at least cloud the facts so much, as to give quarter for R voters to come back to the polls.

DeminPennswoods

(15,284 posts)
38. Rudy admits in New Yorker interview that
Tue Dec 17, 2019, 12:01 AM
Dec 2019

he wanted Yovanovitch "out of the way" because she'd interfere with "the investigations"!!!

Just imagine what he'll say under "friendly" questioning, let alone questioning from Dems.

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