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Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:24 PM

Us vs. them: Trump aiming to use impeachment to rev up base

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Source: AP

Using stark “us vs. them” language, President Donald Trump and his reelection campaign have begun framing his impeachment not as a judgment on his conduct but as a referendum on how Democrats regard him and his supporters.

Read more: https://apnews.com/1221d4b055c568daa639663783ffd258



I would have to ask myself when he says "us vs. them" ...... Does he mean Putin and him vs. the American People and our Constitution?

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Reply Us vs. them: Trump aiming to use impeachment to rev up base (Original post)
usaf-vet Dec 2019 OP
snowybirdie Dec 2019 #1
abqtommy Dec 2019 #2
StClone Dec 2019 #18
TexasBushwhacker Dec 2019 #19
onecaliberal Dec 2019 #3
Turbineguy Dec 2019 #11
Odoreida Dec 2019 #4
pandr32 Dec 2019 #5
The Wizard Dec 2019 #6
mdbl Dec 2019 #10
bucolic_frolic Dec 2019 #7
Merlot Dec 2019 #8
Thekaspervote Dec 2019 #9
yaesu Dec 2019 #12
BlueIdaho Dec 2019 #13
TeamPooka Dec 2019 #14
SergeStorms Dec 2019 #15
paleotn Dec 2019 #16
FakeNoose Dec 2019 #17
Mz Pip Dec 2019 #20
sakabatou Dec 2019 #21
HissyFit Dec 2019 #22
summer_in_TX Dec 2019 #23
Omaha Steve Dec 2019 #24

Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:32 PM

1. He always

has to manufacture a "them". Time for "us" to tell his base that they're fos and always have been. Stupidity and idiocy shouldn't be rewarded any more.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:33 PM

2. At this time tRUMP's "base" is the minority. What we need is a fair and secure election.

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 09:28 PM

18. Maggots are totally bonkers revved already.

Any more revving up and stroking out should be a real concern. Trump should know remember Walt Reed?

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Response to abqtommy (Reply #2)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:10 PM

19. And a MASSIVE voter turn out

Especially for voters under 50, Latinos and African Americans.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:34 PM

3. To answer your question.

Putin is against America, dump and his cultists will follow right off the cliff.

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Response to onecaliberal (Reply #3)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:41 PM

11. Trump's base is the buffer

cannon fodder.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 12:53 PM

4. Of course he is ...

 

Just another variation on the "my enemies are your enemies" trope repeated ad nauseam in one moronic meme after another.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:04 PM

5. Nothing like a president deliberately stoking hatred and distrust

What a guy!
Let's hope that what he winds up doing is to rev up support for impeachment and removal from office. His supporters must be having a hard time continuously defending his demented carnival-barker performances. That and his endless attempts to reach into their pockets for support must be burdensome.
Let's hope the novelty of a mafia-clown for the serious job of POTUS is wearing thin.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:05 PM

6. Pox News feeds the cult

propaganda that makes them the eternal victims. They jabber about 63 million voters have their votes taken away, but never mention the 70 million who voted for someone other than "The Siberian Candidate," with a three million advantage to Hillary. And Trump's campaign violated the law to steal the White House. The masters of projection and feigned outrage designed in accordance with the Machiavelli instruction manual.
Orwell rolls in his grave.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #6)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:28 PM

10. Orwell rolls in his grave.

He has to be. He tried to warn everyone, the repugs just used it as a playbook and there are 63 million people in this country who fall in one of the following categories:

Total Fool
Greedy Bastard
Batshit Crazy

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:17 PM

7. Witnesses. Not a Whitewash. I think we have to draw a line in the sand and inform the people

It's been posted on Twitter.

Pick a side. America. Or Trump.

Add to that. Rule of law. Or rule by Russian Oligarchs. U.S. Constitution. Or Dictatorship.

It really is that simple, that plain, clear as day once anyone sees it and chooses to think for a minute.

Trumpers are still blaming 17 Angry Democrats, and say he had no opportunity to defend himself.

Well here's his chance.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 01:38 PM

8. Impeachment and acquittal just may rev up the democratic base.

Has anyone in the press thought or written about that?

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 02:26 PM

9. Let em!!! All that jaw flapping and lying. The only ones that will listen are voting for him anyway

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:40 PM

12. where I live they are falling for it, even those that don't have a pot to piss in love him

Went shopping, all the aisles were full of people talking about how they are going to vote dems out for going after their God, tRump. The complete brainwashing in the rust belt is complete.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 04:45 PM

13. That knife cuts both ways...

Sometimes he is his own worst enemy. I hope he keeps it up.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 05:44 PM

14. It's revving up our base too and if the Senate gives him his fake trial then look out for our GOTV

actions next year

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:12 PM

15. How much "revving" does his base need?

They're a closed set. They're certainly not going to gain any new members, so how much "revving" do they need? These deplorable nit-wits are going to vote for Trump no matter what. Nothing will keep them from going to the polls and voting for their savior, the most detestable man in America, just because he represents everything they love. Fine. We're not going to convert a single one of them, but there aren't enough of them to re-select him as president. We have to keep foreign interference to a minimum, because it's foolish to think we'll stem it altogether. We have to stop, as much as is possible, republicans from disenfranchising Democratic voters. We have to keep Democrats united around our eventual candidate, and not fall for any third party "backlash" crap. If we can do those three things Trump doesn't stand a chance. NOT A CHANCE.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 07:13 PM

16. Yep...and it it weren't impeachment...

they'd come up with something else to rile their perpetually angry base, even it it were made up from whole cloth. The perpetually angry set are useful tools for IQ45, Putin and anyone else bent on creating a fascist kleptocracy in America. Sucks to be a tool, but tools haven't the sense to know they suck.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 08:09 PM

17. We have to stop worrying about his "base"

Chump's base - if he still has one - is a bunch of idiots who cannot think for themselves.



Besides that, the numbers are dwindling daily, and NO NEW SUPPORTERS are replacing them.



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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:20 PM

20. It will rev up ours too.

Be careful what you wish for dumb ass.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 10:31 PM

21. I'm already hearing it

People saying that the impeachment will cause Trump voters to elect him again.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:18 PM

22. You can bet on it.

 

The planning has been in the works for months. As soon as he is acquitted by the Senate, the attacks will begin. His "innocence" will be trumpeted to the heavens, and no one who opposed him will be immune. It's gonna be ugly.

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Response to usaf-vet (Original post)

Sun Dec 22, 2019, 11:59 PM

23. I used to be absolutely mystified each year when FOX Noise raised the "issue"

of the "War on Christmas." Now I realize it was one of many tactics to make us "other," and maybe dangerously so to their viewers. The various culture war attacks, the fear mongering about immigrants and Black Lives Matter and so forth, all that was to create and increase tribal loyalty.

Now they believe liberals are out to destroy everything they value, and that we hate them. Rush is quick to tell them that we despise them.

Between that and the work Fox has done to convince them of liberal media bias and to not trust any media sources that aren't in the closed RW media system, they are not persuadable at all.

BUT, there are others who are not full-blown Fauxies. They may be family members or friends. They tend to believe what their circle believes, but they aren't hard core.

The more demagoguery Trump and others do, the more they are likely to find their own attitudes hardening. The more we despise them, the more that plays into Trump's and GOP hands.

I don't despise them myself because I'm very aware of the systematic propaganda that brought them to where they are, the "facts" they believe because RW billionaires have funded scholarships, academic chairs, "research," think tanks, well-groomed pundits / "experts" to convince them they are the reasonable ones. I am sad for them, but I despise the oligarchs and their ideological minions who set out to manipulate them.

A few former right-wingers have seen the light. I think it can happen for others. But the hatred I often read online, including here, makes it harder.

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Mon Dec 23, 2019, 09:20 AM

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