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BumRushDaShow

(128,746 posts)
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:03 AM Jan 2020

House Will Vote Wednesday to Send Impeachment Articles, Pelosi Says

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Source: New York Times



WASHINGTON — The House will vote on Wednesday to send its impeachment charges against President Trump to the Senate, allowing a long-awaited trial to begin in the coming days, Speaker Nancy Pelosi announced on Tuesday. The proceeding will be only the third time an American president has been put on trial in the Senate. It is poised to begin almost a month to the day after the House voted to impeach Mr. Trump for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress for his efforts to pressure Ukraine to investigate his political opponents, and his stonewalling of Democrats’ inquiry into his actions.

“The American people deserve the truth, and the Constitution demands a trial,” Ms. Pelosi said in a statement. “The House will now proceed with a vote on transmitting the articles of impeachment and naming impeachment managers on Wednesday, January 15.” The announcement came not long after Ms. Pelosi detailed her plan to Democratic lawmakers in a closed-door gathering on Tuesday morning. Before the vote, she said, she would appoint the team of lawmakers who will serve as prosecutors, or managers, in the case against Mr. Trump. She did not say whom she would choose.

Democratic leaders in the House were working behind the scenes with Republican leaders in the Senate and Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., who will preside over the trial, to determine key questions of timing for the highly choreographed ritual of turning over the charges to the Senate. Still uncertain is precisely when the House managers will ceremonially walk the articles of impeachment from the House chamber to the Senate. They will then formally present the articles and read them aloud in their entirety, prompting a trial to commence.

Representative Steny H. Hoyer of Maryland, the No. 2 House Democrat, told reporters that the House vote would take place in the afternoon on Wednesday, but the dramatic procession across the Capitol could be postponed until Thursday to not interfere with a ceremony previously scheduled for Wednesday in the Capitol Rotunda. At some point thereafter, either on Wednesday or Thursday, the chief justice will leave the Supreme Court and travel across the street to the Senate chamber to administer an oath to senators to do “impartial justice.”

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/01/14/us/politics/trump-impeachment-articles.html



Original article -

WASHINGTON — The House will vote on Wednesday to send the Senate impeachment charges against President Trump, allowing a long-awaited Senate trial to begin, Speaker Nancy Pelosi told Democrats privately Tuesday, according to officials in the room.

The proceeding will be only the third time an American president has been put on trial in the Senate.

In a closed-door gathering with Democratic lawmakers on Tuesday morning, Ms. Pelosi detailed her plan to move on Wednesday to appoint the team of lawmakers who will prosecute the case against Mr. Trump, known as the House managers in his impeachment trial. The officials who described her private remarks spoke on condition of anonymity.

Unless things change, her timetable means that the House managers would ceremonially walk the articles of impeachment from the House chamber to the Senate well later in the day Wednesday, formally presenting them and prompting a trial to commence. The speaker said she was not yet ready to share the names of the lawmakers she would select as managers, they said.

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House Will Vote Wednesday to Send Impeachment Articles, Pelosi Says (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 OP
Here we go. MontanaMama Jan 2020 #1
I expect it will be the lawyers who argued the impeachment case BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #2
I doubt that anyone but House members will be permitted nt FBaggins Jan 2020 #4
Post impeachment trial bucolic_frolic Jan 2020 #3
I dont understand this. weren't they being held cause mcconnell promised a rigged election Fullduplexxx Jan 2020 #5
They were and they weren't FBaggins Jan 2020 #6
I was reading a couple articles this morning BumRushDaShow Jan 2020 #7
Lock him up! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jan 2020 #8

bucolic_frolic

(43,122 posts)
3. Post impeachment trial
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:42 AM
Jan 2020

This juicy impeachment, assuming the trial is concluded before SOTU - 3 weeks hence, gets delivered into February, and the very American traditional holidays, President's Day, formerly Washington's Birthday and Lincoln's Birthday. Don't know if there's something symbolic about that, or if it helps compare Trump to actually famous presidents, or if Republicans can look themselves in the mirror in February if they acquit this bozo.

Fullduplexxx

(7,851 posts)
5. I dont understand this. weren't they being held cause mcconnell promised a rigged election
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:44 AM
Jan 2020

Has that changed ?.... mcconnell still plans to coordinate the trial with he White House isn't that why they said they were keeping the articles from the senate?

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
6. They were and they weren't
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:52 AM
Jan 2020

My opinion is that they were being held just to draw attention to the "rigged" character of the expected trial... and that she never really had the power to hold them indefinitely.

She didn't get much, but it was more than she would have gotten by passing them immediately.

BumRushDaShow

(128,746 posts)
7. I was reading a couple articles this morning
Tue Jan 14, 2020, 11:55 AM
Jan 2020

and there is some parrying going on. I.e., there are at least 4 GOP Senators who are signaling that they want witnesses permitted and these same ones have also signaled that they would vote against any summary dismissal of a trial in the Senate in any case.

So with the GOP "losing" those 4 (making any drastic moves by Turtle risky), a "majority" vote would be in support of Democrats - 51 (=45 Dems + 2 Indies + 4 GOP) - 49 (GOP).

And as an interesting sidenote - even this vote in the House is gonna bring up questions regarding how the GOP in there might vote. Would they vote against sending the Articles over to the Senate because their default is to vote against anything Democrats want to do (in a silly last grandstand move that would actually help Democrats wanting to wait) or would they vote to send the Articles over (which would then "legitimize" the process against the WH's wishes).

(some interesting things to think through here... )

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