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demmiblue

(36,838 posts)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:00 PM Mar 2020

Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources

Source: Reuters

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - The White House has ordered federal health officials to treat top-level coronavirus meetings as classified, an unusual step that has restricted information and hampered the U.S. government’s response to the contagion, according to four Trump administration officials.

The officials said that dozens of classified discussions about such topics as the scope of infections, quarantines and travel restrictions have been held since mid-January in a high-security meeting room at the Department of Health & Human Services (HHS), a key player in the fight against the coronavirus.

Staffers without security clearances, including government experts, were excluded from the interagency meetings, which included video conference calls, the sources said.

“We had some very critical people who did not have security clearances who could not go,” one official said. “These should not be classified meetings. It was unnecessary.”

Read more: https://www.reuters.com/article/us-health-coronavirus-secrecy-exclusive-idUSKBN20Y2LM

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Exclusive: White House told federal health agency to classify coronavirus deliberations - sources (Original Post) demmiblue Mar 2020 OP
What?! This is wrong, very wrong. They are hiding something. NT SWBTATTReg Mar 2020 #1
It is Trump and the GOP of course they are! redstatebluegirl Mar 2020 #28
Republican administration doesn't DENVERPOPS Mar 2020 #34
the cons used ebola in 2014 to scare the country and it got them the senate. they wanted to use it certainot Mar 2020 #30
Ebola was perfect for them. It was an "African" virus maxrandb Mar 2020 #37
And trump/company are trying to label COVID-19 as the "China" virus. Fkn'ing idiots. nt iluvtennis Mar 2020 #40
yup. i think it was part of their plan. 2014 x 10 for the 2020. now they have an actual problem certainot Mar 2020 #45
Have these people never watched a disaster movie?!? FFS! Tech Mar 2020 #2
Probably because they're scrambling to find out how much money they can woodsprite Mar 2020 #3
Bingo! BComplex Mar 2020 #4
that's my theory. barbtries Mar 2020 #5
That and scaring voters. 2naSalit Mar 2020 #26
Kick and recommend to greatest page. bronxiteforever Mar 2020 #6
All about protecting the Image of the Orange Anus. Wellstone ruled Mar 2020 #7
Was Big Pharma There? Privatizing Testing Kits? McKim Mar 2020 #8
But ivanka and Jarad are allowed to attend? captain queeg Mar 2020 #9
KICK! bluestarone Mar 2020 #10
So he's re-creating the backroom channels. Baitball Blogger Mar 2020 #11
Holy shit. Dennis Donovan Mar 2020 #12
They're trying to keep the truth duforsure Mar 2020 #13
What do they think they can hide? marble falls Mar 2020 #14
Lol. It's called "trust building" in the tRump/GOP alternate universe. KPN Mar 2020 #15
xkcd Bernardo de La Paz Mar 2020 #32
This happened too fast. The administration was really hoping that quarantines would happen around LiberalArkie Mar 2020 #16
Didn't they do the same thing in china.....................well yes they did................... turbinetree Mar 2020 #17
THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED A WHISLEBLOWER PRONTO!!............... riversedge Mar 2020 #18
trying to figure out the best way to make a quick buck at the expense of the U.S public... Javaman Mar 2020 #19
Want to bet they talked about how best to take advantage for political reasons? randr Mar 2020 #20
+1 2naSalit Mar 2020 #29
They're trying to figure out how to tie all this back to Hillary's emails. shawn703 Mar 2020 #21
Or that "stained blue dress" durablend Mar 2020 #23
This is to limit damage on Trump left-of-center2012 Mar 2020 #22
Unbelievable! Making Americans hunt for the facts during what is now a Pandemic (WHO) usaf-vet Mar 2020 #24
That's one Delphinus Mar 2020 #35
so when do our Governors speak out on this obvious attempt to coverup/deflect info to beachbumbob Mar 2020 #25
This is where the revolution starts... 2naSalit Mar 2020 #27
I say begin articles of impeachment II. sinkingfeeling Mar 2020 #31
This is what happens I_UndergroundPanther Mar 2020 #33
Were Ingersollman Mar 2020 #36
Our "government" is a criminal enterprise. LuckyLib Mar 2020 #38
He must not have any toes left Danascot Mar 2020 #39
Possible discussions that are classified may involve... Eyeball_Kid Mar 2020 #41
the following is coming... ace3csusm Mar 2020 #42
I'm sure it was classified as they deliberated how they could best profit off a pandemic. intheflow Mar 2020 #43
k&r n/t orleans Mar 2020 #44

DENVERPOPS

(8,806 posts)
34. Republican administration doesn't
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:16 PM
Mar 2020

want Trump's incompetence to be revealed to the nation.........Especially this incredible F***up
That also enables them to put out THEIR propoganda and THEIR interpretation without contradiction.....
Also, by classifying it, none of those experts can talk on their own at any time.......

Right out of Hitler's playbook. He must be going down a checklist of pre-war Germany......

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
30. the cons used ebola in 2014 to scare the country and it got them the senate. they wanted to use it
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:23 PM
Mar 2020

again in 2020 to disrupt elections and close the border. in 2014 jerome corsi did about a story a day in oct for a rw internet rag and it was hyped on RW radio and then it all ended right after the election. they and maybe russians, cause corsi is part of that, were hyping it, using it. of course they would use it again but now they have an uncopntrolable a real one.

social media (russian?) were disinforming and inciting congolese to attack and disrupt ebola clinics in the recent event. talk radio was used to suggest congolese were joining the immigrant 'caravans' 'attacking' our borders.they closed down the units obama put in place to deal with this event.

limbaugh just mentioned it again, saying the recent ebola events proved the 'great' obama efforts were useless, etc.

so if at some level they wanted to use this they might get to where they were talking about the ebola problem they might have been waiting for that limbaugh could overblow with talk radio etc and an actual disastrous problem with too many implications these dumbfucks have no imagination for anticipating or creativity for dealing with.

it never fucking ends until liberals pull their earbuds out of theirears and stop ignoring the radio.

maxrandb

(15,318 posts)
37. Ebola was perfect for them. It was an "African" virus
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:30 PM
Mar 2020

It tied racism and fear together in a tight little bow for them.

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
45. yup. i think it was part of their plan. 2014 x 10 for the 2020. now they have an actual problem
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 07:43 PM
Mar 2020

that they have to try to take advantage of. and unlike katrina it isn't mostly about african americans. and in this case the 'guy in charge', while actually being significantly stupider than bush, doesn't take orders except by knowing that you might be able to get him to do the opposite of what you're pretending to want him to do

BComplex

(8,029 posts)
4. Bingo!
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:07 PM
Mar 2020

You called that one exactly!

Plus, they're trying to figure out how they can keep the virus from throwing trump out of office in 2020.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
8. Was Big Pharma There? Privatizing Testing Kits?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

So was Big Pharma there? How much money is being made off the privatized testing kits while Trump refused the free kits from WHO weeks ago?

captain queeg

(10,157 posts)
9. But ivanka and Jarad are allowed to attend?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:09 PM
Mar 2020

He is crazed. Every step he makes it gets worse. Today the Dow Jones will lose about as many points as the number of positive tests in the US; over a thousand. All he cares about is the stock market and the more he tries to cover things up the more the stock market will fall. It’s not the number of infections so much as his totally inept handling of the crisis. It’s a lack of confidence.

Baitball Blogger

(46,698 posts)
11. So he's re-creating the backroom channels.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:12 PM
Mar 2020

This is what local government does when it sets up a shadow government. It helps to tamp down information.

duforsure

(11,885 posts)
13. They're trying to keep the truth
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:18 PM
Mar 2020

From exposing them ,and now they can threaten doctors if they tell the truth about it. Sounds like a communist country's move to protect the dictator.

KPN

(15,642 posts)
15. Lol. It's called "trust building" in the tRump/GOP alternate universe.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:19 PM
Mar 2020

What a bunch of incompetent hacks! Time to run the pack of them off.

LiberalArkie

(15,708 posts)
16. This happened too fast. The administration was really hoping that quarantines would happen around
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:23 PM
Mar 2020

the end of October into November. Perhaps leading to an unprecedented move by conger to delay the election.

riversedge

(70,184 posts)
18. THE AMERICAN PEOPLE NEED A WHISLEBLOWER PRONTO!!...............
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:37 PM
Mar 2020


.............The White House insistence on secrecy at the nation’s premier public health organization, which has not been previously disclosed, has put a lid on certain information - and potentially delayed the response to the crisis. COVID19, the disease caused by the virus, has killed about 30 people in the United States and infected more than 1,000 people.

HHS oversees a broad range of health agencies, including the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, which among other things is responsible for tracking cases and providing guidance nationally on the outbreaks.

The administration officials, who spoke to Reuters on condition of anonymity, said they could not describe the interactions in the meeting room because they were classified.

An NSC spokesman did not respond to questions about the meetings at HHS. But he defended the administration’s transparency across federal agencies and noted that meetings of the administration’s task force on the coronavirus all are unclassified. It was not immediately clear which meetings he was referring to.

“From day one of the response to the coronavirus, NSC has insisted on the principle of radical transparency,” said the spokesman, John Ullyot. He added that the administration “has cut red tape and set the global standard in protecting the American people under President Trump’s leadership.”

A spokeswoman for the HHS, Katherine McKeogh, issued a statement that did not address questions about classified meetings. Using language that echoed the NSC’s, the department said it that it agreed task-force meetings should be unclassified.

Javaman

(62,515 posts)
19. trying to figure out the best way to make a quick buck at the expense of the U.S public...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:53 PM
Mar 2020

aka business as usual.

randr

(12,409 posts)
20. Want to bet they talked about how best to take advantage for political reasons?
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:55 PM
Mar 2020

Republicans always look for profit in other peoples misery

shawn703

(2,702 posts)
21. They're trying to figure out how to tie all this back to Hillary's emails.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 01:58 PM
Mar 2020

Or maybe to Obama’s tan suit?

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
24. Unbelievable! Making Americans hunt for the facts during what is now a Pandemic (WHO)
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:16 PM
Mar 2020

WHO: https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142445313

I just found this website from an earlier DU posting.

Nearly real-time Global, USA, China, and Canadian data.

USA data by state

https://ncov2019.live/

2naSalit

(86,515 posts)
27. This is where the revolution starts...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:20 PM
Mar 2020

a little different from what a certain revolutionary expected.

I_UndergroundPanther

(12,463 posts)
33. This is what happens
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 02:53 PM
Mar 2020

When a bunch of sociopaths, narcissists and authoritarian pieces of shit control too much.
We need to exclude dark triad people from all positions of power.

LuckyLib

(6,819 posts)
38. Our "government" is a criminal enterprise.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:32 PM
Mar 2020

And in the midst of a global health crisis, we are supposed to trust what we hear. Let us look to Europe for information. CV is everywhere in the US, we just don't know the answers to the important questions: how many cases, the speed of contagion, etc. etc.

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
39. He must not have any toes left
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:37 PM
Mar 2020

from all the times he shoots himself in the foot.

He's not coming back from this one (in combination with the financial markets).

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
41. Possible discussions that are classified may involve...
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 03:53 PM
Mar 2020

the kill rate of the virus, and how many deaths are expected given the current, abysmal death rate, with minimum intervention. "Minimum intervention" is what we're seeing right now, and we should expect that any tools soon or presently available will NOT mitigate the damage to health and life. The Trump White House will NOT go full throttle to mitigate the infection rate. They are doing financial calculations: how many deaths can be tolerated without spending massive funds to attack the spread? Which corporations are designated to profit mightily from medical interventions?

Another question, as cynical as it sounds: Is Trump realizing that this virus outbreak can "depopulate" the nation to the benefit of the economy in general, or specific corporations in particular? Trump has already indicated that he does not value the sanctity of human life. And we know that Trump doesn't change. It's quite possible that Trump is actively perpetuating a bungled public health disaster so that those medically vulnerable populations, which cost the health care industry untold billions of dollars, will simply die off, with more than a little nudge from COVID-19. The profits to health insurance companies will skyrocket.

We cannot presume a humanitarian motive out of sociopath Trump. Trump, by every diagnosis, objectifies any person inside or outside of his sphere of influence. They are all in service to HIS well-being. If massive death events will increase donations from segments of the economy, then Trump knows what to do. And he'll do it if he can get away with it.

intheflow

(28,461 posts)
43. I'm sure it was classified as they deliberated how they could best profit off a pandemic.
Wed Mar 11, 2020, 04:31 PM
Mar 2020

Because if they actually gave a shit about the country, and were discussing this in January, we'd have enough tests available for everyone.

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