NEW ROMNEY VIDEO: In 1985, He Said Bain Would "Harvest" Companies for Profits
Source: Mother Jones
NEW ROMNEY VIDEO: In 1985, He Said Bain Would "Harvest" Companies for Profits
This clip shows the young CEO focusing on businesses as targets for his investors, not as job creators or community stakeholders.
By David Corn | Thu Sep. 27, 2012 3:00 AM PDT
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But at Bain, Romney's top priority wasn't to boost employment. As the Wall Street Journal recently noted, creating jobs "wasn't the aim of Bain or other private-equity firms, which measure success by returns produced for investors." And, the newspaper reported, Romney's 100,000-jobs claim is tough to evaluate.
Mother Jones has obtained a video from 1985 in which Romney, describing Bain's formation, showed how he viewed the firm's mission. He explained that its goal was to identify potential and hidden value in companies, buy significant stakes in these businesses, and then "harvest them at a significant profit" within five to eight years.
The video was included in a CD-ROM created in 1998 to mark the 25th anniversary of Bain & Company, the consulting firm that gave birth to Bain Capital. Here is the full clip, as it appeared on that CD-ROM (the editing occurred within the original):
Read more: http://www.motherjones.com/politics/2012/09/1985-romney-bain-harvest-firms-profits-video
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hifiguy
(33,688 posts)cycle.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)at all about people, actual humans, jobs. But of course, that is not what private equity firms do, now is it. They exist, as far as I can tell, to make money ONLY for themselves and their investors.
And that is NOT the type of behavior required or desired to run a nation.
Enrique
(27,461 posts)valerief
(53,235 posts)freshwest
(53,661 posts)Last edited Thu Sep 27, 2012, 02:26 PM - Edit history (1)
JHB
(37,157 posts)...but then, he didn't start off with Mitt's connections.
freshwest
(53,661 posts)Raised hell and defunded the office, so he had to go with Plan B.
http://www.alternet.org/newsandviews/article/635582/obama_appoints_elizabeth_warren_ally_richard_cordray_to_head_consumer_financial_protection_bureau
Corduray is making inroads, but quietly. For some, not fast or flashy enough, it's necessary to keep Obama in office to stop the end of this bureau's work.
aint_no_life_nowhere
(21,925 posts)BadgerKid
(4,549 posts)Major Nikon
(36,818 posts)[font color="black" size="4"]Mitt Romney Started Bain Capital With Money From Families Tied To Death Squads[/font]
When Romney struggled to raise funds from other traditional sources, he and his partners started thinking outside the box. Bain executive Harry Strachan suggested that Romney meet with a group of Central American oligarchs who were looking for new investment vehicles as turmoil engulfed their region.
Romney was worried that the oligarchs might be tied to "illegal drug money, right-wing death squads, or left-wing terrorism," Strachan later told a Boston Globe reporter, as quoted in the 2012 book "The Real Romney." But, pressed for capital, Romney pushed his concerns aside and flew to Miami in mid-1984 to meet with the Salvadorans at a local bank.
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http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/08/08/mitt-romney-death-squads-bain_n_1710133.html
kathman-duzi
(82 posts)make healthy and run, not harvest.
So the video talks about having capital available to chip in up to Bain puts into the pot and there is also 50 million dollars available to sweeten the deal. This is an inappropriate question but do you think LSD Inc is the source of the additional dollars available to ensure this deal. I realize this is 1984 or 85 dollars the video is speaking about.
Romney can't wait to get his hands on social security and medicare to harvest those dollars.
FailureToCommunicate
(14,007 posts)littlemissmartypants
(22,599 posts)get in bed with this? The RR idea of a warm fuzzy.
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corkhead
(6,119 posts)highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)private equity, as taken from Private Equity: History, Governance, and Operations:
A "harvest" or "exit" is an event whereby the investors and management of a company sell at least a portion of their shares to public or corporate buyers. The harvest provides an opportunity for private equity (PE) funds to realize returns for their investors, while enabling managers with equity stakes to have a "liquidity event" for their shares -- in other words, an opportunity to sell their shares by making them "liquid."
Along these lines, there are three primary methods by which PE funds harvest companies: initial public offerings (IPOs), mergers, and acquisitions. The latter two exit methods (discussed in subsequent chapters) are frequently discussed in parallel and are collectively known as M&A transactions.
So "harvest" is essentially a neutral term.
What was harmful to many of the companies Romney acquired when he ran Bain Capital was the way he acquired them -- maximizing the use of leverage, as this Bloomberg article explains, which loaded the companies with debt, socialized the risks and privatized the profits:
http://www.bloomberg.com/news/2012-07-15/romney-s-bain-yielded-private-gains-socialized-losses.html
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)for everyone except Bain:
In 1992, Bain Capital bought American Pad & Paper by financing 87 percent of the purchase price. In the next three years, Ampad borrowed to make acquisitions, repay existing debt and pay Bain Capital and its investors $60 million in dividends.
As a result, the companys debt swelled from $11 million in 1993 to $444 million by 1995. The $14 million in annual interest expense on this debt dwarfed the companys $4.7 million operating cash flow. The proceeds of an initial public offering in July 1996 were used to pay Bain Capital $48 million for part of its stake and to reduce the companys debt to $270 million.
From 1993 to 1999, Bain Capital charged Ampad about $18 million in various fees. By 1999, the companys debt was back up to $400 million. Unable to pay the interest costs and drained of cash paid to Bain Capital in fees and dividends, Ampad filed for bankruptcy the following year. Senior secured lenders got less than 50 cents on the dollar, unsecured lenders received two- tenths of a cent on the dollar, and several hundred jobs were lost. Bain Capital had reaped capital gains of $107 million on its $5.1 million investment.
kathman-duzi
(82 posts)harvested and the unsecured lenders were royally screwed blue and tattooed! How sweet a deal huh?
yardwork
(61,539 posts)Look at the history of the companies that Bain bought. They were literally sucked dry and abandoned. Look at the department stores, for instance. Gone.
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)that's used by both the more ethical venture capitalists AND the vulture capitalists like Romney.
If you don't believe the textbook I quoted above, maybe you'll believe this page at the University of Michigan's site:
http://www.bus.umich.edu/CourseManagement/ViewCourseDescriptions.asp?course=626&dept=FIN&term=1
This enables us to study how the four main aspects of venture capital and private equity valuation, deal structuring, governance, and harvesting are conducted in different legal and regulatory settings, under different customs, culture and business practices. The case method is used to demonstrate the practical, hands-on application of techniques following their development in class.
Emphasis added.
Again, "harvest" is simply a standard, neutral term.
I had the same initial reaction to it that you did. I thought, "Wow, what a damning video! What a horrible word to use!"
But I majored in political science, not business. And I know I'm not familiar with a lot of business terminology.
So I just googled "harvest" and found out, within a couple of minutes, that it means what I explained in my first reply here.
eggplant
(3,909 posts)I hate Bain; they are scum. But not everything that comes out of Mitten's mouth can be considered damning, and there is enough that *is* damning that it does us a disservice to focus on the quotes that simply *sound* bad.
All VC firms expect to be able to extract profits from an investment after a specific amount of time. This is independent of the evil that is Bain. (But don't get me started on the evil that all VCs are.)
midnight
(26,624 posts)outlawed.
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highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)since the term "harvest" is neutral, this video of Romney using that term isn't particularly harmful to him -- let alone devastating, like the "47%" video. His use of the term "harvest" can be explained, and then dismissed, too easily.
MissMarple
(9,656 posts)depending on how the deals were structured? Would they have had a choice or was the destruction just a sure way to take out profit for Bain? Would that depend on the amount of short term gain which could kill or cripple the company versus a longer involvement that would be much less exciting in the amount of profit for Bain?
I think Bupkus may have answered the question. Amoral and sleazy. That's all I can say about Bain.
highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)kathman-duzi
(82 posts)the economic rapists to sleep at night. It is like lawyer speak to keep the unwashed out of legal business. Doctors also have their own language and some are harvesting their patients.
kathman-duzi
(82 posts)grasswire
(50,130 posts)highplainsdem
(48,921 posts)I posted in GD about Andrew Sullivan's response to it:
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10021425411
He called the term "clinical."
I've been checking Google News and Twitter, and this new video definitely isn't getting the sort of reaction that the "47%" video got as soon as Mother Jones published it.
M_M
(163 posts)kathman-duzi
(82 posts)GEOpix
(65 posts)they are literally fattening companies for slaughter!
AndyTiedye
(23,500 posts)Arugula Latte
(50,566 posts)You'll wake up sitting in a bath of ice and your kidney will be MIA.
global1
(25,226 posts)closeupready
(29,503 posts)nt
closeupready
(29,503 posts)of what capitalism was founded to do. K&R
Stuart G
(38,414 posts)reformist2
(9,841 posts)So much for Mitt's record of "building" companies that last...
Tx4obama
(36,974 posts)And they are discussing it
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emulatorloo
(44,072 posts)Thanks for posting this.