Elon Musk claims Tesla will leave California, sue over coronavirus order

[alp227]

Source: East Bay Times

Tesla CEO Elon Musk lashed out at Alameda County public health officials Saturday on Twitter, claiming his car company will leave California and sue the county over coronavirus lockdown orders that have shuttered its Fremont factory.

“Tesla is filing a lawsuit against Alameda County immediately. The unelected & ignorant ‘Interim Health Officer’ of Alameda is acting contrary to the Governor, the President, our Constitutional freedoms & just plain common sense!” Musk tweeted Saturday morning, referring to Health Officer Dr. Erica Pan.

He continued in another tweet, “Frankly, this is the final straw. Tesla will now move its HQ and future programs to Texas/Nevada immediately. If we even retain Fremont manufacturing activity at all, it will be dependen (sic) on how Tesla is treated in the future. Tesla is the last carmaker left in CA.”

Musk, who has 33.9 million Twitter followers, also encouraged Tesla shareholders to file a class-action lawsuit against Alameda County, and called its actions “irrational & detached from reality.” He continued to belittle Pan, writing that “Tesla knows far more about what needs to be done to be safe through our Tesla China factory experience than an (unelected) interim junior official in Alameda County.”

Read more: https://www.eastbaytimes.com/2020/05/09/elon-musk-claims-tesla-will-leave-california-sue-over-coronavirus-order-shutting-down-factory/

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Full headline (didn't fit): Elon Musk claims Tesla will leave California, sue over coronavirus order shutting down Fremont factory

[mysteryowl]

1. Okay. Sounds like a lot of work and very expensive.

[onecaliberal]

2. Bye Felicia.

[turbinetree]

3. Okay then lets take away your contract for space after all is is taxpayer funded

since you like to threaten a state government that is trying to keep your employees alive......So the costs are not a burden on system that is failing nationwide..............I thought you knew how to keep costs down...........so your plan of attack is to go to Nevada and Texas there is no virus there or did I miss that there is two states that have no virus, here let me check something out, you can also do this:

https://www.texastribune.org/2020/05/08/texas-coronavirus-deaths-count-1000/

https://www.reviewjournal.com/news/coronavirus-crisis-1587067663-unique/



.........your only worried about dollars for dividends ...........that's what I get from the article......... .

[rockfordfile]

21. This health crisis shows peoples' true colors. Americans will look at his words and be pissed

[Jake Stern]

35. The Biden administration should immediately cancel all contracts with Musk's companies

Including Space X.

[turbinetree]

37. You would think that the employees are going to blame ......

the one person whom sticks taxpayer money funding his operation in mouth............this isn't rocket science.......I wonder if he understand this............

[still_one]

4. f**k you Elon

[marble falls]

5. Why are so many visionary business men so warped and soul deficient.

[DonaldsRump]

7. "We all lived 'cos of Elon's submarine"

That what the brave kids and their coach who were stuck in the cave in Thailand DID NOT sing: https://www.popularmechanics.com/technology/a22150734/elon-musks-mad-mini-submarine-didnt-help-thai-cave-rescue/

This excerpt from the article in the OP about Tesla's engineering is a bit rich:

Musk, who has 33.9 million Twitter followers, also encouraged Tesla shareholders to file a class-action lawsuit against Alameda County, and called its actions “irrational & detached from reality.” He continued to belittle Pan, writing that “Tesla knows far more about what needs to be done to be safe through our Tesla China factory experience than an (unelected) interim junior official in Alameda County.”

Elon's submarine was a bit of a joke. Just like those "ventilators" you promised, Elon, that were actually designed for sleep apnea: https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/17/tech/elon-musk-ventilators-california/index.html

Dr. Pan seems to be a doing a lot better than your engineering, Elon!

[Ford_Prefect]

13. I met ever so many Libertarian know-it-alls while I was in IT.

Like certain kinds of Doctors and Surgeons who felt they had a better grasp of what should be decided and by whom...And we mere pedestrians would be well advised to step right out of the way and not impede the new order.
"Irrational & detached from reality". Such an interesting turn of phrase he chose. Sounds like a feature of the description for megalomania:

To the extent that people are pathologically narcissistic, the person with NPD can be a self-absorbed control freak who passes blame and is intolerant of contradictory views and opinions; is apathetic towards the emotional, mental, and psychological needs of other people; and is indifferent to the negative effects of his or her behaviors, whilst insisting that people should see him or her as an ideal person.[7] To protect their fragile self-concept, narcissists use psycho-social strategies, such as the tendency to devalue and derogate and to insult and blame other people, usually with anger and hostility towards people's responses to the narcissist's anti-social conduct.[11] Because their fragile egos are hypersensitive to perceived criticism or defeat, people with NPD are prone to feelings of shame, humiliation, and worthlessness over minor incidents of daily life and imagined, personal slights,[10] and usually mask such feelings from people, either by way of feigned humility, or by socially isolating themselves, or by responding with outbursts of rage and defiance, or by seeking revenge.[7][8] The merging of the inflated self-concept and the actual self is evident in the grandiosity component of narcissistic personality disorder; also inherent to that psychological process are the defense mechanisms of idealization and devaluation and of denial.[12][

[link:https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Narcissistic_personality_disorder|

[marble falls]

23. I know one. My brother and what a trump sucking conceited nitwit he turned out to be ...

he absolutely believes Convid19 is a total hoax. I'm am the only person in my whole large family still talking to him. Sometimes I am grinding teeth after we talk or have dinner.

He's lost multiple jobs over his treatment of women. He keeps finding new ones, now I know why.

[NotHardly]

25. Sounds like the boy has drunk the KoolAide

[BigmanPigman]

30. He has been known to pull up the ladder once he has used it.

Hypocrite. He knows both Business and Science well, but chooses $$$/business over Science/people. As a resident of CA I say, "Good riddance".

Robert Reich tweeted,
"Elon Musk threatens to take away people’s jobs unless he’s allowed to risk their health.
Capitalism at its worst."

[marble falls]

31. Vulture capitalist.

[Rebl2]

6. Okay

Bye bye you snowflake. Don’t let the door hit you ASS on the way out.

[msongs]

8. pay back your tax breaks first nt

[cstanleytech]

24. It would be great if the state and county had a contract that

would require him to do that if he left before xx time.

[Bengus81]

9. Hospitals or anyone ever find all those respirators Musk promised??

Instead they got a load of C-PAP masks.

[Zorro]

10. Could be a ploy to get Texas to ante up some bucks for a new Tesla plant

[SkatmanRoth]

57. Texas is in the oil business, they don't want an electric car.

Elon would probably pick Nevada because that is where the batteries are.

[walkingman]

59. Texas is the antithesis of everything Tesla - Austin area would be a good location but the backwards

State Government would discourage anything progressive or sustainable....or maybe something like this would be the incentive to rid ourselves of these vermin. I seriously doubt that "shitkicker" mentality is compatible with Tesla values.

[flibbitygiblets]

11. Elon, Elon likes his money...He makes a lot they say

--
Spends his days counting
In a garage by the motorway

[stillcool]

18. he was born a pauper to a pawn?

[bucolic_frolic]

12. They bred some kind of arrogance in that man

Shares an alma mater with Trump, no?

[PatSeg]

14. What the hell?!?!

Has the whole world gone nuts? What an asshole.

[lostnfound]

15. I love Elon but he is such a Peter Pan who won't grow up. A pity. Nt

[Thunderbeast]

16. More corporate blackmail.

Just fishing for more tax subsidy like Amazon, Boeing, and so many other bottom feeders. Just lost my interest in any of his vehicles.

[AntiFascist]

17. Meanwhile Alameda County continues to have the worst looking curve of cases in the Bay Area...

not showing much of a sign of bending yet:

https://abc7news.com/coronavirus-curve-flattening-us-cases-california/6090454/

[gristy]

22. That's because the y-axis is unhelpfully on a linear scale.

Needs to be on a log scale to be able to see if there is flattening and also to compare different counties having wildly different infection counts.

[AntiFascist]

26. Alameda County cases, which is the second curve from the top,...

appears to have accelerated in the past week, but this could be due to a sudden increase in the number of tests finding the new cases.

[Igel]

41. It's the wrong kind of graph.

This graph shows the total number of cases. If the curve "flattens" on that graph, it means no more cases are reported. That's not what they meant when they said "flatten the curve".

The original "flatten the curve" showed a y-axis mislabeled "number of cases". More accurately it would read "number of active" cases--meaning new cases minus recovered cases. To flatten the curve was to reduce the future active cases below a threshold--the hospital's carrying capacity.

We did that. No place has exceeded it. Sometimes that was due to additional capacity that was put in place in March. But a lot of the extra capacity wasn't ever used.

If you have a graph that shows the number of new cases reported each day, then a flattened curve would mean a horizontal line, slope = 0. In a few weeks there'd be equilibrium--# of recovered = # new cases.

On this kind of graph, a constant number of new cases would show up as a straight line. What the slope would be, dunno. But if the line's sloped, the number of active cases will go all constant.

Using # of cases is a bad proxy, though. # hospitalizations is better, but it misleads people less and it's harder to come by, so reporters avoid it even when they have access to it. Not doomy-and-gloomy, sensationalistic. In short, not catastrophe porn with a side helping of politics. We can get by with # of deaths per day, but as those decline we need something else to stoke those typically already numb from daily outrage, and since testing's ramped up the number of new or active cases will do. (Although it should cause serious cognitive dissonance sufficient to produce not just a headache but intermittent black outs that # of new cases increases but death rates fall or hold relatively constant, while we're not better at treating it than a month ago.)

[AntiFascist]

42. Okay I stand corrected, the curve is actually flat in Alameda County...

with the accumulated number of cases increasing linearly...

https://ac-hcsa.maps.arcgis.com/apps/opsdashboard/index.html#/1e0ac4385cbe4cc1bffe2cf7f8e7f0d9

(click on the Daily tabs to see the flattened curve)

but in other surrounding counties the daily number of cases are going down, indicating that they are farther along in dealing with the epidemic. I would still be concerned about opening up a car manufacturing plant in Alameda County before the daily cases at least show a sign of decreasing.

[rockfordfile]

19. If he moves that company to Texas, boycott the car company

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A lot of liberals buy electric, but we hate crap like this. Trump is un-American traitor.
Who will Musk vote for this year?

[duforsure]

55. After him saying this

I think not on buying any of his products , or supporting any candidates that'll help him in any way. He's a mess. Is he using a lot of drugs?

[SergeStorms]

61. There are rumors...

that he has a fondness for the Peruvian Marching Powder, but I have no firsthand knowledge of that.

[jayfish]

20. EXECUTIVE ORDER N-60-20

https://www.gov.ca.gov/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/5.4.20-EO-N-60-20-text.pdf

Nothing in this Order shall be construed to limit the existing authority of local health officers to establish and implement public health measures within their respective jurisdictions that are more restrictive than, or that otherwise exist in addition to, the public health measures imposed on a statewide basis pursuant to the statewide directives of the State Public Health Officer.

[nsd]

27. Does Tesla have a board of directors?

Now would be the time for them to step up.

[ripcord]

60. The board of directors is elected by the stockholders

Musk owns 54% of the stock in Tesla so he appoints the BoD.

[SunSeeker]

28. Fuck you Elon. Californian lives matter. nt

[AllaN01Bear]

29. ive lost all credibility in this person.

[Cryptoad]

32. dont let the door hit u in the ass as u leave!

[matt819]

33. Who does he think he is?

A fed up DUer?

Look, we don’t care about your announcements. Close and move. Or don’t. Announcing shit like this is stock price manipulation. Not that anyone is going to investigate.

But STFU anyway.

[Initech]

34. And we're the triggered snowflakes. Right.

[jb5150]

36. Fuck Musk and the worthless Hyperloop he rode in on ...

[yaesu]

38. fascist corporatists are such snowflakes. nt

[lettucebe]

39. Don't let the door hit you on your way out

IMO he's as bad as tRump. He's selfish and spoiled and acts like a baby whenever he doesn't get his way. I really dislike him. That said my son put down a deposit on the new Tesla that is seriously the ugliest thing I've ever seen. Here's hoping it's never delivered, lol

[BlueIdaho]

40. On his way to schizophrenia...

Enjoy your new home in Dumbfuckistan pal.

[iluvtennis]

43. I like Elon Musk...but he has gone too far here. The rules of Gov Newson and Public Health

officials need to be followed.

[They_Live]

44. Is he moving the factory to the border

between Texas/Nevada?

[AntiFascist]

45. Nevada won the bid for Tesla's "Gigafactory" several years ago...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Giga_Nevada

At least five states competed to attract Gigafactory by offering tax incentives, cash grants[51][52] and other methods in the hope of future business; California,[53][54] Arizona,[55] Nevada,[56] New Mexico, and Texas,[57] where San Antonio had offered bigger incentives with no sales tax, but did not get the factory. States without sales tax were topping the list of preferred sites.[45][56][58][59][60]

Nevada estimates a tax base of $1.9 billion over 20 years.[47] After sticky negotiations,[60] Tesla chose the Tahoe-Reno Industrial Center (TRIC) as the location of the Gigafactory mainly due to speed[56] and a State of Nevada incentive package. Other location reasons were rail access, direct sale ability,[52][58] and low air humidity[61] to ensure less than 300 ppm humidity in production.[62] The TRIC owners gave the first 1,000 acres to Tesla for free.[63]

[They_Live]

47. Thanks. n/t

[Stuart G]

46. Not smart Elon..Actually quite stupid..Here is why:

The people who wear masks, are very aware of environment and air problems. That is why they buy a Tesla.."clean air"

But Elon Musk does not care about clean air for his employees. And this is getting wide publicity..All over the country. Yes, DU is part of that publicity.. So if we read it, others read it..(East Bay Times)..and some (?) will say that Musk "doesn't care about his employees:..... The shut down temporarily protects them, and the air they breath and "California Air" without Covid in the air. ..

And Musk will move to show California who is "right" and knows what to do.. Musk wants the factory open NOW

And people who care about "clean air" will show Musk who the real boss is....So, if there is a 25 percent decrease in Tesla sales, who wins? And what does that say about Musk and what the company stands for?..The shut down is to protect workers from what???
A virus in the air! But the factory must stay open..according to Elon Musk.. Is that smart? Not in my opinion.

The publicity about this could hurt in ways that Musk doesn't know. Also, it is a play to overcome California rules and laws...Musk wants the State of California to open NOW..

That is not good for publicity either..

[niyad]

48. Scratching a tesla off my wish list.

[SunSeeker]

53. You can get an all-electric Chevy Bolt for half the price of a Model 3.

It's got the same range as a base Model 3, is just as fast, but is much more practical in terms of payload, because it's a hatchback/mini SUV. I love my Bolt. I signed a 3-year, 15k mi/yr lease last October for only $184/month with $6k down. With what I'm saving on gas and maintenance, it's like my lease payments are $0. Tesla won't even let you lease. Fuck Elon.

[niyad]

58. Thank you for that excellent information. I keep remembering that documentary on what

Happened to the first series now of electric cars. Disgusting. Big oil has a lot to answer for.

[Steelrolled]

49. I expect the local officials to bow down and give Musk what he wants

Musk also defied the original shutdown order. He seems to feel he is above the law, and I've got to say it is often true.

[Aussie105]

50. Elon is having a sad moment.

From high up in his ivory tower, he can't see the dead on the street, but he can see his business being inconvenienced.

Didn't expect it of him, but he is just another businessman who thinks his personal part of the economy on full speed forward is more important than protecting people from the virus.

Really? “irrational & detached from reality”? Well, someone is.

I thought he was better than that. Apparently not.

[eilen]

51. What is restricting his ability to open up?

The County Board of Health usually has requirements. Which ones is he not meeting?

[SunSeeker]

54. He's wrong. Karma Automotive makes luxury electric hybrids in CA.

They are gorgeous supercars:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karma_Automotive


There are also other specialty auto manufacturers in CA: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Motor_vehicle_manufacturers_based_in_California

[MrsCoffee]

56. Bye Felicia.

[truthisfreedom]

62. He's said and done a number of things that make him seem increasingly erratic.

You REALLY have to be a fan of this guy to overlook his antics. What's with his kid's name, anyway? And why does Grimes always look like her lipstick is smeared? I realize that just these two things alone might be shallow observations, but overall, his actions have seemed somewhat alarming.

[RT Atlanta]

63. Time for ole Elon to take a ride on one of his rockets to some place else

He can move to GA or SC where they treat workers as expendable - sounds like that will fit in with his mindset.

[olddad65]

64. No person is an island. Fuck him. Good riddance.