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kansasobama

(609 posts)
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:26 PM Jun 2020

States of Play: Battleground Survey

This discussion thread was locked as off-topic by Omaha Steve (a host of the Latest Breaking News forum).

Source: CNBC

CNBC/Change Research Poll in Arizona, Florida, Michigan, North Carolina, Pennsylvania, and Wisconsin: May 29-31, 2020

Read more: https://www.changeresearch.com/post/states-of-play-battleground-wave-6



There are some dangers here. We know Florida is never voting for Dems nor is North Carolina. I am really worried about PA and Wisconsin. Even Michigan is scary. I don't get what is going on in PA.
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States of Play: Battleground Survey (Original Post) kansasobama Jun 2020 OP
florida and north carolina voted for obama nt msongs Jun 2020 #1
i believe Obama won NC in 2008 and DURHAM D Jun 2020 #12
Doesn't make sense Proud liberal 80 Jun 2020 #2
I don't trust CNBC's polling. They are creating their own headlines. ArizonaLib Jun 2020 #5
Me either Rebl2 Jun 2020 #18
If you look at the rest of the polling for these states and other CNBC polling ArizonaLib Jun 2020 #3
C minus pollster RhodeIslandOne Jun 2020 #4
I can't believe it is close after MRDAWG Jun 2020 #6
It's change research and they are 'surveying' multiple states...it is garbage. Biden is Demsrule86 Jun 2020 #15
Lockdowns have not been popular in PA bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #7
Maybe why Wolf is reopening? HockeyMom Jun 2020 #13
Locked down counties are lobbying and complaining bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #17
C- Rated Poll.. caber09 Jun 2020 #8
BS poll. Don't waste your time. nt Jarqui Jun 2020 #9
Maybe you "THINK" NC is never voting Dem but you would be wrong ms liberty Jun 2020 #10
Half a dozen AZ polls show Biden over Trump by 3 to 5 points LogicFirst Jun 2020 #11
The heart of the most liberal city in Wisconsin was damaged by protests. Tetrachloride Jun 2020 #14
Real poll averages with high ratings beg to differ Thekaspervote Jun 2020 #16
I hope this is incorrect kansasobama Jun 2020 #19
Bottom of the barrel pollster. SoFlaBro Jun 2020 #20
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Jun 2020 #21

msongs

(67,348 posts)
1. florida and north carolina voted for obama nt
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:29 PM
Jun 2020

DURHAM D

(32,605 posts)
12. i believe Obama won NC in 2008 and
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:17 PM
Jun 2020

lost it in 2012.

Proud liberal 80

(4,167 posts)
2. Doesn't make sense
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:31 PM
Jun 2020

He is expanding his lead by 7 nationally but now trailing in Arizona and losing by 4 in Pennsylvania....but leading in Fla and NC

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
5. I don't trust CNBC's polling. They are creating their own headlines.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:34 PM
Jun 2020

Having said that, keep working and get everyone we can out to vote. We can't take our feet off the pedal. This needs to be an epic defeat for him.

Rebl2

(13,458 posts)
18. Me either
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:47 PM
Jun 2020

ArizonaLib

(1,242 posts)
3. If you look at the rest of the polling for these states and other CNBC polling
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:32 PM
Jun 2020

their polling seems to lean a little more than reasonably to the right. Look at 538's presidential election polling and their A+ and A polls, like ABC New's polls. He is going down, and remember that the landslide the LBJ carried in 1964 did not help him even compete in the 1968 primaries - he had to quit. This administration is going down. Keep the faith and organize voting.

 

RhodeIslandOne

(5,042 posts)
4. C minus pollster
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:33 PM
Jun 2020

MRDAWG

(501 posts)
6. I can't believe it is close after
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jun 2020

the last 3 months.

Demsrule86

(68,456 posts)
15. It's change research and they are 'surveying' multiple states...it is garbage. Biden is
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:26 PM
Jun 2020

significantly ahead...he is even up by two in Ohio in a Fox poll...when you see change research just throw it out.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
7. Lockdowns have not been popular in PA
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:39 PM
Jun 2020

and gun huggers are always buzzed

 

HockeyMom

(14,337 posts)
13. Maybe why Wolf is reopening?
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jun 2020

Retail has been reopened. Bars and Restaurants to Outdoors. SCHOOLS are going to reopened as of July 1st.

Yes, lockdowns are not popular in PA. Perhaps there is a political motive going on with Wolf? Give the people what they want and they will remember which Party did it? BTW, I live in the Poconos now.

bucolic_frolic

(43,044 posts)
17. Locked down counties are lobbying and complaining
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jun 2020

even those under Democratic control. So they have to do something. But the governors did what they had to do, based on the rapid growth of the pandemic, and they did slow the curve, but we will have round 2 unless it actually has mutated as one Italian doctor reported this week.

And give Wolf points for steering between the 2 extremes. We now know that retail stores can stay open if we have distancing and masks. We didn't know that in early April. Now that model can be applied to other establishments, and to workplaces, some of which are going remote. So we've gotten a lot for time well spent. We may squeak by a bit better than we would have.

 

caber09

(666 posts)
8. C- Rated Poll..
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:45 PM
Jun 2020

Very different than all recent polling, by pollsters with higher ratings...3900 people in 6 states, 600+ people in each state...Biden's lead is getting too "big" in other polls, any bigger they wont be able to reign in for a horserace...so its horserace time! He isnt basically tied in TX, but down in his home state of PA, especially when all the other polls show it very differently
PS: Just Fox News Poll: Fox News Poll: Biden ahead in Arizona (+4), Kelly trouncing McSally in Senate race (+13), Biden +2 OH, Biden +9 in WI.

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
9. BS poll. Don't waste your time. nt
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 06:57 PM
Jun 2020

ms liberty

(8,557 posts)
10. Maybe you "THINK" NC is never voting Dem but you would be wrong
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:00 PM
Jun 2020

Perhaps you should pay closer attention to your facts. We currently have a Dem governor and went for Obama in 08 by a healthy margin. Over the course of the last 30 years we've had Governors from both parties, state legislatures controlled by both parties, and federal representatives in the house and senate from both parties. We are what is known as a purple state. Right now it could go either way in NC, IMO. It is too far out to be sure, but things do look more hopeful than I would have thought six months ago.

LogicFirst

(571 posts)
11. Half a dozen AZ polls show Biden over Trump by 3 to 5 points
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:13 PM
Jun 2020

Tetrachloride

(7,816 posts)
14. The heart of the most liberal city in Wisconsin was damaged by protests.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:21 PM
Jun 2020

Thekaspervote

(32,704 posts)
16. Real poll averages with high ratings beg to differ
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:45 PM
Jun 2020

kansasobama

(609 posts)
19. I hope this is incorrect
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 07:59 PM
Jun 2020

I was worried because it is a CNBC poll and thought it would lean left. If so, a close election is worrisome. Of course, I just want to win in the end.

SoFlaBro

(1,911 posts)
20. Bottom of the barrel pollster.
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:32 PM
Jun 2020

Omaha Steve

(99,493 posts)
21. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Wed Jun 3, 2020, 08:57 PM
Jun 2020

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