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NY06DemSoc

(42 posts)
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:10 AM Jun 2020

William Barr's Vast, Nameless Army Is Being Brought To Bear On D.C. Protesters

Source: HuffPost

Federal law enforcement officers are operating on American streets without identification, which experts say breeds a culture of impunity.

Read more: https://www.huffpost.com/entry/william-barr-justice-department-protests-trump_n_5ed8330ec5b6513fdffca21a?utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark



This is terrifying. If they are unaccountable there is no telling what they will do. They are worse than the violent protesters and looters as far as disrupting the peace. Locals should call the police on them to report an unidentified man with a gun because that's what they are. Cops should arrest them.
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William Barr's Vast, Nameless Army Is Being Brought To Bear On D.C. Protesters (Original Post) NY06DemSoc Jun 2020 OP
The cost of all this?? empedocles Jun 2020 #1
The Palace Guard and highly predictable bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #2
I'll bet if a platoon of Marines shows up, grumpyduck Jun 2020 #3
Orders from unidentifiable "personnel" don't have to be obeyed, but it is risky, so I have no advice Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #4
Could not be anymore us vs them. ... must be reading up on all of the totalitarian tactics RKP5637 Jun 2020 #5
tRump campaign is now calling supporters "The Trump Army" & selling camo: link Bernardo de La Paz Jun 2020 #6
Yep! tRump, is not the president, he's working to lead an insurrection cult. n/t RKP5637 Jun 2020 #13
Erik Prince's mercenaries are infiltrating as well... (NYTimes) FailureToCommunicate Jun 2020 #7
His name was the first to come to mind. not_the_one Jun 2020 #54
I've been calling them the "Amway Army" n/t Greybnk48 Jun 2020 #55
If they're not properly identified, Jarqui Jun 2020 #8
An invading army would identify itself bucolic_frolic Jun 2020 #14
Why shouldn't we consider that they're spetsnaz. plimsoll Jun 2020 #35
CBS said yesterday they are from the bureau of prisons. Chakaconcarne Jun 2020 #9
Sounds like time for another Boston Tea Party. elleng Jun 2020 #10
I love a Party. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #43
no name , badge or id. bage # covered up ? out of uniform? fired. AllaN01Bear Jun 2020 #11
+1 2naSalit Jun 2020 #15
+1 NY06DemSoc Jun 2020 #21
Good congresspeople need to march down there and demand names C_U_L8R Jun 2020 #12
Retired Gen. Wesley Clark responds to former Secretary of Defense James Mattis' elleng Jun 2020 #16
These unmarked "police" are from the Bureau of Prisons, as mentioned in this article onetexan Jun 2020 #17
Thank you Rep. Beyer NY06DemSoc Jun 2020 #22
I was thinking along the same lines Danascot Jun 2020 #50
The DoJ cannot have a federal police force. It is highly dangerous and there is no accountability. onetexan Jun 2020 #51
Why do the words "Eric Prince" & "Blackwater" WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2020 #18
You can also add Project Veritas to the short list. pazzyanne Jun 2020 #24
Damn. WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2020 #28
Seeing these videos break my heart packman Jun 2020 #40
I think he renamed it Xe dhol82 Jun 2020 #45
+1 Historic NY Jun 2020 #49
Eric Prince Army sarcasmo Jun 2020 #19
Exactly Siwsan Jun 2020 #26
Imagine if Obama had done anything like that?!?! donkeypoofed Jun 2020 #20
They created fake stories anyway. Mosby Jun 2020 #25
People need to walk past them. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #23
Unfortunately... WinstonSmith4740 Jun 2020 #29
That is likely Renew Deal Jun 2020 #32
This reminds me of how Russia went in to Crimea without any identifying marks Ohioboy Jun 2020 #27
and remember the phone call trump had with... dhill926 Jun 2020 #36
Sowing fear. tecelote Jun 2020 #30
You can buy their outfits at tactical supply retailers. CaptainTruth Jun 2020 #31
plus one. safeinOhio Jun 2020 #44
Another idea. Washington DC police arrests them for playing dress up. Renew Deal Jun 2020 #33
Congress needs to impeach william Barr for abuse of power immediately. Lonestarblue Jun 2020 #34
Trump's SS... BlueJac Jun 2020 #37
The Republican Guard, commanded by Bagdad Bob Barr? Marcuse Jun 2020 #38
This is fucking tyranny and they are traitors to the Constitution. Evolve Dammit Jun 2020 #39
If any of these officers got killed or injured by a protester, SpankMe Jun 2020 #41
Are They SS Or Gestapo? DanieRains Jun 2020 #42
Bureau of Prisons guards? People from one of the hottest Covid-19 hot spot types in the US today? generalbetrayus Jun 2020 #46
At least it should have become clear now who the real enemy of the people are. world wide wally Jun 2020 #47
Cops need to arrest them, we don't have private vigilante armies here Warpy Jun 2020 #48
Agree, the House needs to investigate and prohibit Lowbarr from these dangerous tactics. onetexan Jun 2020 #52
Kind of like Putin's little green men Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Jun 2020 #53

grumpyduck

(6,231 posts)
3. I'll bet if a platoon of Marines shows up,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:16 AM
Jun 2020

those whatever-they-are will shit their pants and scatter like flies. They're just bullies and cowards.

RKP5637

(67,102 posts)
5. Could not be anymore us vs them. ... must be reading up on all of the totalitarian tactics
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:21 AM
Jun 2020

and also preparing for tRump (who knows) not to leave the WH when voted out ... strange times.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
54. His name was the first to come to mind.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:50 PM
Jun 2020

He is supplying mercenaries all over the world, why not to billy barr?

Jarqui

(10,122 posts)
8. If they're not properly identified,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:24 AM
Jun 2020

why does anyone have to listen to them.

How does one know it isn't some white supremacists dressed up to cause trouble?

Without ID, they can George Floyd you and no one will know who did it.

bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
14. An invading army would identify itself
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:27 AM
Jun 2020

under rules of engagement, or be regarded as spies or saboteurs.

Police departments would wear uniforms, badges

Is this occupation? Maybe some JAGs would know

safeinOhio

(32,668 posts)
43. I love a Party.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:40 PM
Jun 2020

Can we also chant "No taxation without Representation"? They are trying to limit voting too.

C_U_L8R

(44,997 posts)
12. Good congresspeople need to march down there and demand names
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:26 AM
Jun 2020

Also haul every participating head (ATF, prisons, etc) before the American public to explain themselves. They have no authority or accountability. This needs to stop immediately.

elleng

(130,861 posts)
16. Retired Gen. Wesley Clark responds to former Secretary of Defense James Mattis'
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:41 AM
Jun 2020

released statement in which he said Americans must come together without President Trump.

https://www.cnn.com/videos/politics/2020/06/04/james-mattis-retired-general-wesley-clark-trump-nr-vpx.cnn

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
17. These unmarked "police" are from the Bureau of Prisons, as mentioned in this article
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:46 AM
Jun 2020
https://www.wusa9.com/article/news/local/dc/unmarked-police-officers-dc-riots-bureau-of-prisons-riot-squads/65-bc1c42a7-b05b-490c-9dab-eebb1b1bba20

I've seen it also mentioned in other articles. This is Barr's brownshirts - highly dangerous he's unleashing his own guards onto peacefully protesting American citizens.

Editing to add this good bit of news from the article above:

"In response to photos and reports about the unmarked security officers flooding social media, Virginia Rep. Don Beyer (D-VA 08) tweeted that he was working on legislation to prevent similar actions in the future, writing that it was “unacceptable for uniformed federal officers policing constitutionally-protected assemblies to refuse to identify themselves to people who pay their salaries.”

Danascot

(4,690 posts)
50. I was thinking along the same lines
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 05:20 PM
Jun 2020

Any LEO on the job or in public should be required to have visible insignia stating force, unit and badge number or the equivalent. For example, Virginia State Police, Troop 69, Badge number 666. I can see a rational for not having the name because of safety concerns for their families and homes but I could be persuaded otherwise. Also, functioning body cameras at all times. If they don't meet those requirements they're benched.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
51. The DoJ cannot have a federal police force. It is highly dangerous and there is no accountability.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 05:29 PM
Jun 2020

Barr is creating a team of brownshirts. Frightening.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
18. Why do the words "Eric Prince" & "Blackwater"
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 11:54 AM
Jun 2020

keep dancing through my mind? I know he renamed it something else, but it's still a private army.

What a coward & loser. Remember when we had a president who wasn't afraid of us? I miss that.



pazzyanne

(6,546 posts)
24. You can also add Project Veritas to the short list.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:25 PM
Jun 2020

James O'Keefe is the founder and spying is his game plan. Other mischief has been noted also.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
28. Damn.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:32 PM
Jun 2020

Forgot about that asshole. And now that you mention it, I'm sure he's at work doctoring videos. A former student of mine just sent me one that supposedly shows Biden sliding his hand over a young girl's (6-ish)breast during a photo op. It's obviously doctored, but we can't put anything passed the pure evil that controls the Drumpf syndicate.

Mosby

(16,297 posts)
25. They created fake stories anyway.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jun 2020

Fema camps.

NWO caravans.

NWO troops staging at Walmart.

Classic projection.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
23. People need to walk past them.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:22 PM
Jun 2020

They have no authority. They are like the fake crossing guards that popped up in NYC a while ago. They had no authority to do anything.

WinstonSmith4740

(3,056 posts)
29. Unfortunately...
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:35 PM
Jun 2020

They also have no controls. They'll bust heads open and disappear into the tear gas, and nobody in charge will have heard of them.

Ohioboy

(3,240 posts)
27. This reminds me of how Russia went in to Crimea without any identifying marks
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:30 PM
Jun 2020

I'm sure in many ways it provides both cover and psychological confusion. Dictators and evil regimes know all the tricks.

CaptainTruth

(6,583 posts)
31. You can buy their outfits at tactical supply retailers.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:46 PM
Jun 2020

I'd love to see a bunch of people dress like that & show up.

It's all legal to buy & should be legal to wear because you're not impersonating an officer, you're just wearing a bunch of stuff from a tactical supply store, not wearing a police uniform.

Renew Deal

(81,852 posts)
33. Another idea. Washington DC police arrests them for playing dress up.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 12:48 PM
Jun 2020

They will be forced to identify themselves at that point.

Lonestarblue

(9,967 posts)
34. Congress needs to impeach william Barr for abuse of power immediately.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:05 PM
Jun 2020

Trump uses every opportunity to grab ever more power. If there is no serious pushback from this, he will push even further next time. And the time after that, until we have a dictatorship.

Edited to add:

And even though Trump put Barr charge of the DC protest response, how is it legal for an AG to order the deployment of the US military?

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
41. If any of these officers got killed or injured by a protester,
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 01:28 PM
Jun 2020

then how could the protester be prosecuted? If you don't know it's law enforcement, then are you obligated to follow their commands? If you feel threatened, then can you use deadly force against them under the various self-defense principles?

This opens up a can of worms. Sounds more like a hit or murder squad.

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
46. Bureau of Prisons guards? People from one of the hottest Covid-19 hot spot types in the US today?
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:08 PM
Jun 2020

How about a little biological warfare along with the chemical warfare?

Warpy

(111,237 posts)
48. Cops need to arrest them, we don't have private vigilante armies here
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 02:25 PM
Jun 2020

not even if they're owned by a rich asshole named Erick Prince.

It's illegal and their use should put Barr into prison for a very long time.

onetexan

(13,036 posts)
52. Agree, the House needs to investigate and prohibit Lowbarr from these dangerous tactics.
Thu Jun 4, 2020, 05:31 PM
Jun 2020

I can already see it. These brownshirts will be his own mercenaries sent to take out any detractors he wants.

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