U.S. Use of Truth Drug Revealed (New Evidence All Gitmo Detainees Given Involuntarily)
Source: Sun-Herald (Australia)
US use of truth drug revealed
Natalie O'Brien September 30, 2012
New evidence has emerged that all Guantanamo Bay detainees, including David Hicks, were drugged involuntarily with a substance that has a long history as a truth serum.
Recently declassified US documents revealing medical procedures have shown that scopolamine was administered to all detainees taken to the Cuban detention centre.
The documents, which were standard operating procedures for nursing staff, were obtained by the independent US news outlet Truthout, and reveal that the rationale for the drug's use on all detainees was to prevent motion sickness.
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The Sun-Herald revealed this month that Mr Hicks and other detainees were drugged against their will with unknown substances and that detainees' medical records were incomplete, with the names and dosages of drugs removed.
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/us-use-of-truth-drug-revealed-20120929-26sja.html
Jumping John
(930 posts)xocet
(3,871 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)drynberg
(1,648 posts)Then W can be nabbed when he visits the Caymen Islands 5 days before the Nov. elections. Operation Truth-Out, or something catchy like that would be just fine .
blkmusclmachine
(16,149 posts)Thinkingabout
(30,058 posts)Raster
(20,998 posts)Emphasis on the "moran."
daleo
(21,317 posts)Though it would be wrong to do so in this way.
leveymg
(36,418 posts)OnyxCollie
(9,958 posts)Gitmo detainees can't vote.
Now stop talking about this. Do you want President Romney?
Unnnnh...
Damn. The groupthink around here is affecting me more and more.
kas125
(2,472 posts)I find it pretty sickening. Your post that got hidden the other day was nothing but the truth and it makes me sad that so many people are unwilling to even HEAR the truth.
Solly Mack
(90,762 posts)Igel
(35,300 posts)Who knew that the CIA or the military did so much of its interrogation during the initial flight to Gitmo?
That is, of course, the implication arrived at by most. It was given just before the flight and since scopolamine's use in this case can't be anticholinergic but used as a "truth drug" that doesn't act long term we must conclude that the CIA or the military did a lot of interrogation on the plane.
Of course, since they typically transported prisoners with bags over their heads, had they not given the prisoners an anticholinergic there'd be those accusing the military of allowing the some prisoners to voluntarily puke-board themselves.
xocet
(3,871 posts)Imagine if the local police came to arrest you, administered drugs to you so you would not get "car-sick", head-bagged you and took you down to the station.
That would be reprehensible behavior and such behavior would need to be called out and prosecuted all the way up the chain of command to the point where the policy originated and was condoned.
If you don't see any of the above treatment as a problem, maybe you should reconsider your values. Also, the military does not deserve a free pass for carrying out orders.
Here is an example from WWII:
Count I: Indicted Not Guilty
Count II:
Count III: Indicted Guilty
Count IV: Indicted Guilty
Sentenced to: Death by hanging
By 1935 Kaltenbrunner was the leader of the Austrian branch of the SS and parts of the Gestapo. He was part of the plans to end the rein of the Austrian government, but he did not appear to be a part of the general plans for war. Rather, Kaltenbrunner was involved with the crimes against humanity. He issued orders against Jewish people, prisoners of war, and slave laborers. He took a leading role in the final solution. People under Kaltenbrunners command killed over four million Jewish people in concentration camps.
Kaltenbrunners defense was that he was under orders involving foreign intelligence and never assumed control of the activities of the SS police. He claims he did not know of the overall plan. This defense only convinced the tribunal that Kaltenbrunner was not part of the plans to wage war.
http://law2.umkc.edu/faculty/projects/ftrials/nuremberg/NurembergIndictments.html
Electric Monk
(13,869 posts)Comrade Grumpy
(13,184 posts)cbayer
(146,218 posts)or ships? That's scopolamine. I don't understand how they can say it's not used for motion sickness. It's widely used for that.
Anything that makes a person drowsy could conceivably be used as a "truth serum", but it would be entirely dose dependent and this is not a medication often used for that, imo.
There are some significant problems with this story.
AntiFascist
(12,792 posts)the use of mefloquine at Guantamo is even more disturbing. Side effects include psychosis:
http://www.remingtonnevin.com/tmih.pdf
Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/national/hicks-forced-to-take-high-drug-doses-in-guantanamo-20120915-25zcv.html#ixzz27z8wtFWk