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Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:29 AM

Supreme Court says Manhattan prosecutor may see Trump's personal financial records

Source: Washington Post

The Supreme Court ruled Thursday that a New York prosecutor is entitled to see President Trump's private and business financial records, ending an intense legal battle waged by the president to keep them secret.

The court said Manhattan District Attorney Cyrus R. Vance Jr. had the authority to subpoena the records from Trump's private accounting firm. Trump had claimed an immunity from criminal investigations while in office.

The court will rule later Thursday on subpoenas issues by congressional committees for a broader range of Trump's financial records.


Washington Post Update Breaking: Supreme Court blocks House Democrats from accessing Trump's financial records, for now

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/courts_law/supreme-court-trump-tax-returns-financial-records/2020/07/09/8f274352-c1e2-11ea-9fdd-b7ac6b051dc8_story.html





Seeing Trump's financial records is a BIG win. They're much more detailed than his tax records.


Guess Democrats won't see Trump's records. For now.

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Reply Supreme Court says Manhattan prosecutor may see Trump's personal financial records (Original post)
ancianita Jul 2020 OP
safeinOhio Jul 2020 #1
Maraya1969 Jul 2020 #2
ancianita Jul 2020 #3
eggplant Jul 2020 #18
ancianita Jul 2020 #19
eggplant Jul 2020 #31
ancianita Jul 2020 #20
BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #17
marie999 Jul 2020 #29
BlueIdaho Jul 2020 #30
mountain grammy Jul 2020 #4
ancianita Jul 2020 #8
Bayard Jul 2020 #5
ancianita Jul 2020 #9
lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #6
ancianita Jul 2020 #10
DownriverDem Jul 2020 #12
lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #13
ancianita Jul 2020 #16
MichMan Jul 2020 #7
DownriverDem Jul 2020 #11
lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #14
vlyons Jul 2020 #21
lagomorph777 Jul 2020 #22
ancianita Jul 2020 #15
Lock him up. Jul 2020 #27
getagrip_already Jul 2020 #23
ancianita Jul 2020 #24
Warpy Jul 2020 #25
ancianita Jul 2020 #26
Lock him up. Jul 2020 #28

Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:35 AM

1. Criminal case expected

in NY for sure.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:37 AM

2. How does that make them available to the public? FOIA?

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:39 AM

3. Very likely. Also, after prosecutions begin, they're probably public. Don't forget the

moves that Barr can make on the district behind this decision. We'll find out. He might lose his nerve, being on the cusp of impeachment as it is.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #3)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:01 AM

18. This is a state court issue (NYAG), not federal (SDNY), so Barr has no influence.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:04 AM

19. Ah, okay. I was unaware and thought it was through SDNY. Thank you.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #19)

Fri Jul 10, 2020, 09:28 AM

31. My mistake, it is the Manhattan DA (Vance), not NYAG (James).

But is still not federal.

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Response to eggplant (Reply #18)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:08 AM

20. Eliminating Barr now makes the publicizing of the records more likely once the prosecution

begins.

These prosecutors had better watch their backs once the 'defendent' is rage tweeting dog whistles.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Reply #2)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:59 AM

17. Not likely any time soon...

The release is to the state AG is for use in a grand jury. They wonít appear in public until and unless Trump goes to trial in NY state.

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Response to BlueIdaho (Reply #17)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:06 PM

29. So the grand jury will see these records.

I am assuming that the members of the grand jury will not include anyone who has had a close family member die from the Covid-19 because we wouldn't want anyone to leak the documents.

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Response to marie999 (Reply #29)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 01:26 PM

30. I appreciate your sarcasm but...

My understanding is the grand jury has already been seated and is awaiting the documents. I could be wrong... but thatís my belief. Given itís a New York State grand Jury the chances of a relative having covid are highly likely. 😉

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:41 AM

4. Roberts made a deal..worst umpire ever.

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Response to mountain grammy (Reply #4)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:45 AM

8. I'm sure he was purely constitutional in his rebalancing the DOJ's power and

Congress' oversight. I figured as long as the court was staying strictly constitutional, this was really not a surprising decision, as shown by the 7-2 ruling.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:42 AM

5. WOOOOOO.....WOOT!!

So if he resigns or gets pardoned, that doesn't do anything to the state case, right?

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Response to Bayard (Reply #5)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:47 AM

9. Right.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:42 AM

6. It seems the reality is more nuanced.

Looks to me like SCROTUS punted on both Trump tax decisions; sent them back to lower courts with a list of arguments Trump can try again.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #6)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:48 AM

10. Yes. But now that SCOTUS has ruled publicly, one never knows how/when some records might leak.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:51 AM

12. Exactly

I thought the same thing. Of course trump is already tweeting that he's the victim.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #10)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:51 AM

13. Not before more months of lower court runaround.

So...some time AFTER we un-elect Trump.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #13)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:56 AM

16. Maybe before. Because once the Manhattan case begins, other courts might drop it or issue

moot rulings. SCOTUS is letting them decide, but that might come quickly.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:44 AM

7. Doubt they will ever be made public

I don't believe FOIA applies to a government employees private financial records.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:49 AM

11. Raise your hand if

you think trump's tax returns will be leaked?

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:51 AM

14. Hand raised. I place my bet on October 2021.

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Response to lagomorph777 (Reply #14)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:38 AM

21. Ah yes, the October surprise

nt

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Response to vlyons (Reply #21)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:40 AM

22. Well, sorta. Only in off-year elections, such as Virginia state elections.

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 09:54 AM

15. ...

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Response to DownriverDem (Reply #11)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:46 PM

27. You mean 1 Brave Patriot will rise up to the occasion and save the US of A from Putin?

And

MAKE JUSTICE GREAT AGAIN

and

LOCK HIM UP


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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:49 AM

23. What happens if the house subpoena's them from NYS?

Or merely requests them?

Surely, a state prosecutor can respond to a request without violating any laws, correct?

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Response to getagrip_already (Reply #23)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 10:53 AM

24. I'm no lawyer but you sound like you've got something there.

And the House would get them in a timely way that would enable them to begin new impeachment proceedings.

If I recall correctly, that's core to an impeachment article they'd been working on since last year.

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Response to ancianita (Original post)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 11:14 AM

25. Cue a mad rush to find a stooge to put into office

who might be qualified enough to skim past Senate approval. Their last idea, a guy who hadn't prosecuted a jaywalking ticket, didn't fare too well even as an "acting" appointment.

They're going to want to run out the clock. After the election, they'll give up trying to block this because they think it will be irrelevant.

It won't be, win or lose.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:01 PM

26. By whom? Vance is a Manhattan district attorney, so Congress & Barr can't touch him.

He's gotten a lot of big case convictions under his belt, too.

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Response to Warpy (Reply #25)

Thu Jul 9, 2020, 12:55 PM

28. New York STATE law.

Orange maggot is toast. (And all the others doing tax shenanigans like that too.)

MAKE JUSTICE GREAT AGAIN

LOCK HIM UP

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