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demmiblue

(36,841 posts)
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:23 PM Aug 2020

Suicidal adults can use nasal spray to help ease symptoms within 24 hours, FDA says

Source: The Sacramento Bee

Health officials in the U.S. approved a nasal spray designed for adults suffering from suicidal thoughts or behavior — the “first and only” antidepressant medicine shown to help people feel relief with one dose. Some patients improved in as little as four hours.

The U.S. Food and Drug Administration said the spray should be used in conjunction with oral antidepressants and therapy visits with a healthcare professional, according to Janssen Pharmaceutica, the Belgium-based company behind the medication.

Most importantly, its makers say the nasal spray, coined SPRAVATO, provides a new option of “significant symptom relief” for suicidal adults while other longer-term treatments take effect.

“Many people who live with depression know all too well the feeling of desperation. If that major depression progresses to active suicidal thoughts, it’s crushing, and they need options to help change the trajectory of their acute depressive episode,” Theresa Nguyen, chief program officer of Mental Health America, a non-profit organization based in Virginia, said in a news release.

Read more: https://www.sacbee.com/news/nation-world/national/article244741452.html

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Suicidal adults can use nasal spray to help ease symptoms within 24 hours, FDA says (Original Post) demmiblue Aug 2020 OP
We already have this. It's called Cannibis. Works for me. rickyhall Aug 2020 #1
Ditto Blecht Aug 2020 #3
Some people are "immune" to the effects of cannibis. Coventina Aug 2020 #6
I hope so! Soxfan58 Aug 2020 #13
Yeah, that's funny. maxsolomon Aug 2020 #7
In nasal spray form? SergeStorms Aug 2020 #10
Some people can't use cannabis because of on-the-job drug testing. generalbetrayus Aug 2020 #14
Depression is undoubtedly worse during this pandemic IronLionZion Aug 2020 #2
I could use some of that. Some days it's difficult to stay off that ledge. Texin Aug 2020 #4
I'm surprised Sgent Aug 2020 #5
Yep, sounds like a potential new party drug. ToxMarz Aug 2020 #11
FYI - Where there's a Will there's a Way? Backseat Driver Aug 2020 #8
K & R N/T w0nderer Aug 2020 #9
As others replying to this thread are saying, off-label use and abuse is a concern... n/t gristy Aug 2020 #12

Coventina

(27,101 posts)
6. Some people are "immune" to the effects of cannibis.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:52 PM
Aug 2020

Sadly, I'm one of those people.

Although, I'm hoping my suicidal depression will ease after Nov. 4th.....

maxsolomon

(33,310 posts)
7. Yeah, that's funny.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 02:22 PM
Aug 2020

Many people self-medicate this condition with a firearm. Even as a placebo, this is infinitely superior.

Sgent

(5,857 posts)
5. I'm surprised
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 01:46 PM
Aug 2020

that the DEA went for it. This drug is an isomer of Ketamine and the FDA prior approval required it to be administered in a doctors office. Most psychiatrists aren't staffed / prepared to administer it, and most other docs wouldn't want to because they aren't psychiatrists.

If a psychiatrist wanted to add it to his practice regularly then it would be much cheaper to give actual ketamine via IM or IV, but he would need nursing staff to assist.

ToxMarz

(2,166 posts)
11. Yep, sounds like a potential new party drug.
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 04:17 PM
Aug 2020

The potential for abuse seems high (no pun intended ) to me

Among side effects:

...dissociation, dizziness, sedation and feeling drunk...

Backseat Driver

(4,390 posts)
8. FYI - Where there's a Will there's a Way?
Wed Aug 5, 2020, 02:42 PM
Aug 2020

Rational decision-making in the moment by those so afflicted???

https://www.spravato.com/

https://www.peoplespharmacy.com/articles/high-cost-of-spravato-esketamine-for-depression


First we're encouraged to carry around a preventive for "death by opioids", because you know that street drug was taken so inadvertently; now this? Will it be standard issue for the EMT squads?

If you read the info at the site, it can also result in more aggressive behavior in those already irrational strung-out outpatients and much more.

Is this just another way for the FDA to get a kissin' cousin of ketamine on the street? You know, better living via kitchen sink chemists pissed they don't have jobs and high student loans? Or moonlighters with a "12-Monkey"grudge or pharmaceutical CEO yacht/lamborgini-envy opportunity of a lifetime?

I mean, how did so much carfentanil get on the street? Can any advanced chemist eke it out of other opoids in a home lab? It supposedly has a restricted distribution only to animal vets?


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