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groundloop

(11,518 posts)
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 03:56 PM Aug 2020

China working against Trump's reelection, while Russia spreads disinformation on Biden

Source: ABC News

Full Title: China working against Trump's reelection, while Russia spreads disinformation on Biden: US intelligence

A U.S. government intelligence report released on Friday says China is actively interfering in the 2020 election process against President Donald Trump's campaign.

"We assess that China prefers that President Trump -- whom Beijing sees as unpredictable -- does not win reelection," William Evanina, director of the United States National Counterintelligence and Security Center, wrote in a release. "China has been expanding its influence efforts ahead of November 2020 to shape the policy environment in the United States, pressure political figures it views as opposed to China’s interests, and deflect and counter criticism of China."

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"We assess that Russia is using a range of measures to primarily denigrate former Vice President Biden and what it sees as an anti-Russia "establishment,'" Evanina wrote. "This is consistent with Moscow’s public criticism of him when he was Vice President for his role in the Obama Administration’s policies on Ukraine and its support for the anti-Putin opposition inside Russia."

It was just over two weeks ago that Biden said he was putting the Kremlin "on notice" over its election interference.

Read more: https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/china-working-trumps-reelection-russia-spreads-disinformation-biden/story?id=72241806



It just really pisses me off that foreign countries see our election as a playground to peddle their own agenda, no matter which candidate they're attempting to 'help'.
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China working against Trump's reelection, while Russia spreads disinformation on Biden (Original Post) groundloop Aug 2020 OP
Maybe they'll cancel each other out. The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2020 #1
Yes. That's been Trump's long time goal:create a Biden/China bothsiderism to Trump/ Putin stuffmatters Aug 2020 #14
OMG they are fighting over us. Srkdqltr Aug 2020 #2
I suppose it's a good thing that we're still relevant enough for that to happen. groundloop Aug 2020 #3
I don't know whether to be flattered or embarrassed. 😂😂😂😂 Srkdqltr Aug 2020 #6
With A GDP Roughly Equal... ProfessorGAC Aug 2020 #15
Putin does not want to lose his puppet Gothmog Aug 2020 #4
+1 dalton99a Aug 2020 #11
This is scary Gothmog Aug 2020 #13
This makes me feel like I live in a third world banana republic beastie boy Aug 2020 #5
Former FBI Official Clint Watts: "Election 2020: Russia Cares, China Doesn't" TomCADem Aug 2020 #7
Thanks for that. SharonClark Aug 2020 #20
Note the order in which the items are presented... regnaD kciN Aug 2020 #8
At least it is fucking around with the Sino-Russian alliance. roamer65 Aug 2020 #9
This country is now... Newest Reality Aug 2020 #10
Maybe we should embrace China's help....kidding, but would like to just to shove it their faces Thekaspervote Aug 2020 #12
bullshit - china broadly supports trumps re-election..... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #16
'Trump isn't even mildly annoying china' denem Aug 2020 #17
china doen't really care about this.... getagrip_already Aug 2020 #18
In a normal year, the senate and house would hold hearings tomorrow and stop this. lindysalsagal Aug 2020 #19
You're absolutely right! cheezmaka Aug 2020 #21

ProfessorGAC

(65,000 posts)
15. With A GDP Roughly Equal...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:44 PM
Aug 2020

...to the next 3 largest conbined, the US is very geopolitically relevant.
PINO is a speed bump in the grand world economic scheme.

beastie boy

(9,313 posts)
5. This makes me feel like I live in a third world banana republic
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:07 PM
Aug 2020

with major world players battling each other to expand their sphere of influence to my country.

This feeling doesn't inspire confidence in the stability of my future. Can anyone remind me when was the last time we were the only world superpower? Seems so long ago!

TomCADem

(17,387 posts)
7. Former FBI Official Clint Watts: "Election 2020: Russia Cares, China Doesn't"
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:21 PM
Aug 2020

While you see Trump and Pompeo going out of their way to attack China, not surprisingly you hear little mention of Russia's continued efforts to interfere with the U.S. election. Has Russia lost interest in the U.S. election? Clint Watts, who testified to Congress on Russian election interference in 2016, recently posted that Russia continues to the be the most active foreign actor trying to interfere in the U.S. election in support of Trump:

https://www.fpri.org/fie/election-2020-russia-china/

In anticipation of Chinese interference claims ahead of Election Day in November, the Foreign Policy Research Institute’s (FPRI) Foreign Influence Election 2020 (FIE 2020) project included Chinese outlet the Global Times alongside its analysis of the Kremlin’s Russia Today (RT) and Sputnik News. Our analysis of Global Times content from January 1, 2019 to present day shows China has published significantly less English-language content than Russia regarding the presidential election. Chinese state-sponsored articles about the 2020 election, either observed by the FIE 2020 team or viewed on the Alliance For Securing Democracy’s Hamilton 2.0 dashboard, hardly travel into the U.S. audience space when compared to RT and Sputnik News.

Furthermore, an examination of the paltry Chinese election coverage shows they spend remarkably little time seeking to elevate one candidate over another. The trade war, Huawei, COVID-19, and the Hong Kong protests dominate Global Times headlines—not the 2020 election. Of 1,211 mentions of the 2020 candidates over a 15-month period, more than 85% discussed President Trump. Trump’s mentions were far more negative than positive, and most always in the context of China’s foreign policy goals vis-à-vis the U.S. rather than the presidential election. When China discusses the 2020 election, it’s not about capturing a victory, but undermining the integrity of the American democratic process.

Conversely, Russia’s outlets talk about internal U.S. politics and the election all the time, with their state-sponsored news outlets authoring a high volume of stories and mentioning the candidates more than twice as much as China. It is clear the Kremlin prefers a second term for President Trump heading into the fall and strongly opposes the election of former Vice President Biden. Russian President Vladimir Putin has openly said he wanted Trump to win in 2016, and Russia’s overt propaganda portrays Trump far more positively than Biden. Although they’ve soured a bit on the president in recent months, taking the opportunity to bash him with respect to America’s failed COVID-19 response and the administration’s authoritarian response to racial justice protests in D.C., nothing Russia says negatively about Trump compares to how derogatory the Kremlin is toward Biden. Headlines trash Biden continuously, and Russian derision of Biden will hit full swing this summer when a curiously timed movie out of Russia-occupied Donetsk, Ukraine, titled “Alpha R” hits theaters warning of a “New Cold War” if Biden wins the election.

The Kremlin’s strategy since 2016 has remained consistent—“secure the base, split the opposition.” Facebook takedowns of the Kremlin’s troll farm in 2019 showed Russian content promoting President Trump, denigrating Biden and elevating Sanders. In March of this year, Facebook closed a Russian troll farm cutout operation in Ghana that sought to infiltrate American minority groups on Facebook and Instagram, presumably hoping to divide the political left and influence voters headed into Election Day.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
8. Note the order in which the items are presented...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:36 PM
Aug 2020

...keeping in mind that most people only read the first few words of a headline.


roamer65

(36,745 posts)
9. At least it is fucking around with the Sino-Russian alliance.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:42 PM
Aug 2020

The Chinese will need Siberia when the mass climate exodus begins.

Newest Reality

(12,712 posts)
10. This country is now...
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 04:48 PM
Aug 2020

This country is now in a serious decline in a host of ways. Despite any cheer leading propaganda, rather than any recovery at all, we are due to get on the verge of some sort of collapse for many reasons.

Those other countries can estimate that and any influence they can exert may relate to the spoils leftover after disaster and vulture capitalism have their way with us. It is a smart strategy to jockey into position for the most power and influence over a country decimating itself from within.

It won't take too long for the downfall to play out and there are no changes or reforms to stop that in sight. We are just getting started on that road now. Buckle your seat belts because Kansas is going bye-bye.

getagrip_already

(14,711 posts)
16. bullshit - china broadly supports trumps re-election.....
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 06:51 PM
Aug 2020

The us inteligence spokesmodel will say anything they are told to by the wh, and the wh is pushing the narrative that the chinese support biden.

They don't. They never will.

Trump isn't even mildly annoying china. chica has won every engagement with the trump admin. They know his secrets and he is easy to manipulate.

The LAST thing they want is a strong and independent dem poutus and congress.

The wh wants to push this to bolster trumps claims that china interfered in mail in voting and he will use it a basis for the postal service to collect and destroy ballots.

This is all political withcraft right out in the open. Shame on abc for just parroting the admin on this. Nobody in the intel community believes china wants biden.

getagrip_already

(14,711 posts)
18. china doen't really care about this....
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 08:30 PM
Aug 2020

China has very long term geopolitical goals. They plan out 50 years.

This is just noise to them. They already have an iron grip on hong kong. Their plans to acquire taiwan are in full force. Even a trump visit, or a threat of one, won't really cause them to support biden. They will find a way to buy trump off and get taiwan.

They are winning hand over fist against us interests. They don't want that to stop. They will endure economic disruption. They will endure sanctions. They will endure trump saying nice things about taiwan.

They are winning and they know it.

lindysalsagal

(20,670 posts)
19. In a normal year, the senate and house would hold hearings tomorrow and stop this.
Fri Aug 7, 2020, 09:18 PM
Aug 2020

But we don't have a functioning government. So we are vulnerable, and the world powers know it. And the gop thrives on chaos.

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