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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:08 PM Sep 2020

Trump announces commission to further 'patriotic education'

Source: The Hill

President Trump on Thursday described America’s heritage and history as under assault from the left, decrying anti-racism teachings and "cancel culture" while announcing plans for a new commission to promote "patriotic education" in U.S. schools. In a speech delivered in somber tones at the National Archives Museum, Trump painted a dramatic and dark portrait of an effort by liberals to “indoctrinate” America’s children and repress American values, culture and faith.

“We are here today to declare that we will never submit to tyranny. We will reclaim our history, and our country, for citizens of every race, color, religion and creed,” he said.

Trump announced plans to sign a new executive order establishing a national commission to promote “patriotic education” in American schools, which he said would be called the 1776 Commission, a nod to his criticism of the 1619 Project throughout the speech. The commission will be tasked with celebrating the upcoming 250th anniversary of the country’s founding and with encouraging educators to “teach our children about the miracle of American history.”

In his remarks, Trump took particular aim at “critical race theory,” a methodology that argues racism and racial inequality are a result of systemic power structures. Trump called it a “Marxist doctrine” and said teaching it to children amounts to “a form of child abuse in the truest sense of the word.”



Read more: https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/516941-trump-announces-commission-to-further-patriotic-education



“patriotic education” ?
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Trump announces commission to further 'patriotic education' (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Sep 2020 OP
Shitler youth TEB Sep 2020 #1
Yep. n/t EndlessWire Sep 2020 #53
That sounds very ominous. 3catwoman3 Sep 2020 #2
yup, reeducation camps to brainwash the youth onetexan Sep 2020 #52
Trump U rises from the garbage heap C_U_L8R Sep 2020 #3
Let 'em try to touch our grandchildren rustysgurl Sep 2020 #4
All Democrats will be required to report to their local education camp. nt Binkie The Clown Sep 2020 #5
You mean "RE EDUCATION camps..." AZ8theist Sep 2020 #42
and lynne cheney's got a book, already! elleng Sep 2020 #6
That title is hysterical, coming from a cheney. I thought it sounded familiar, so I went to Amazon. niyad Sep 2020 #19
I remember when her book(s) first came out, elleng Sep 2020 #21
Re-Education camps ala his hero Kim Jong Un AKing Sep 2020 #7
WTH? NCDem47 Sep 2020 #8
Morons unlimited coming to your local school soon! Idiots. Such requires massive amounts of ... SWBTATTReg Sep 2020 #9
More Nationalism. Mz Pip Sep 2020 #10
He accuses teachers of child abuse, but says it's the left who practices "cancel culture"? muriel_volestrangler Sep 2020 #11
Hard to fathom their "vision" for this "corrective" curriculum pat_k Sep 2020 #27
Yes, they do. The Mouth Sep 2020 #47
You're probably right pat_k Sep 2020 #48
If what he is doing is "American values, culture, and faith" I want no part of it. AllyCat Sep 2020 #12
This is one initiative that has already been accomplished. Lonestarblue Sep 2020 #13
Back to US history, circa 1950. paleotn Sep 2020 #14
Brainwashing niyad Sep 2020 #15
propaganda. barbtries Sep 2020 #16
Comes With Your Own Sharpie modrepub Sep 2020 #17
So, let me get this straight... regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #18
As I see it ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #29
I can't wait to see their version of the. . . pat_k Sep 2020 #20
The "re-education camps" await us! BamaRefugee Sep 2020 #22
If you still had doubts about the orange murderer going full fascist if he's reelected... Javaman Sep 2020 #23
"Patriotic Education" according to whom? SergeStorms Sep 2020 #24
Wait till the students find out that the Germans bomb Pearl Harbor! ... aggiesal Sep 2020 #30
LOL!!! Classic!! AZ8theist Sep 2020 #43
Fuck them and their lies. Solly Mack Sep 2020 #25
We have seen this path before. progressive nobody Sep 2020 #26
Lesson 1: How to betray American troops that your enemies have bounties on ffr Sep 2020 #28
You nailed it..............with your comment...........he is a traitor .... turbinetree Sep 2020 #31
What Are You Reading?!!! nwliberalkiwi Sep 2020 #32
Howard Zinn is amazing. BarbD Sep 2020 #36
I've been reading that, too! SeattleVet Sep 2020 #45
Read it years, and years ago pat_k Sep 2020 #49
Trump doesn't like Marxist doctrine, he prefers Facist doctrine. patphil Sep 2020 #33
russian patriotism, right? Marthe48 Sep 2020 #34
Who's behind Trump pushing this, because he can't appreciate anything about history bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #35
Calling David Barton! rurallib Sep 2020 #37
What happened to get the government off our backs? Education is freedom not propaganda bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #38
Trump does not understand patriotism or education. TNNurse Sep 2020 #39
approved of Xi's conquest and re-education in Tibet and the Muslim Yuigers. He wants it here. Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #40
Oh, goodie, we now get Trump's Youth. sinkingfeeling Sep 2020 #41
Sieg Heil mein furher! CRK7376 Sep 2020 #44
It will be the right wing equivalent of the 1619 Project melm00se Sep 2020 #46
Our young don't need "patriotic education" - they deserve the goddamn truth. BlueIdaho Sep 2020 #50
Four months and one day until the Trump crime syndicate is finished Yeehah Sep 2020 #51
We had this sort of thing growing up quaker bill Sep 2020 #54
which is why so few people know ANY history to speak of... Captain Zero Sep 2020 #55

rustysgurl

(1,040 posts)
4. Let 'em try to touch our grandchildren
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:14 PM
Sep 2020

There may be a certain segment of our population who will gladly turn their children over to this monster. But I think (hope) more will say "fuck off."

elleng

(130,126 posts)
6. and lynne cheney's got a book, already!
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:18 PM
Sep 2020

Hardcover Telling the Truth : Why Our Schools, Culture and Country Have Stopped Making Sense and What We Can Do About It Book
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ISBN: 0684811014

ISBN13: 9780684811017

Telling the Truth : Why Our Schools, Culture and Country Have Stopped Making Sense and What We Can Do About It
by Lynne V. Cheney

and another:

https://www.target.com/p/the-virginia-dynasty-by-lynne-cheney-hardcover/-/A-79681697?

niyad

(112,426 posts)
19. That title is hysterical, coming from a cheney. I thought it sounded familiar, so I went to Amazon.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:54 PM
Sep 2020

Sure enough, ugly, typical crap from years ago.

elleng

(130,126 posts)
21. I remember when her book(s) first came out,
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:00 PM
Sep 2020

heard interviews with her, and I've never forgotten her backasswardness.

NCDem47

(2,236 posts)
8. WTH?
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:27 PM
Sep 2020

This is beyond sick and takes presidential pandering to a base/cult to a dark, dark place. It’s moot of course when Biden wins. But man. I‘m at a loss for words at how wrong this is. Was the goal here just to think of the most wild to do and get folks talking about it? Thank God his shenanigans are forgotten about 24 hours later. NOTHING is sticking with the overall populace Donnie. SAD! Ugh. Time for a shower after reading this “news.”

SWBTATTReg

(21,856 posts)
9. Morons unlimited coming to your local school soon! Idiots. Such requires massive amounts of ...
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:29 PM
Sep 2020

funding which won't be funded at all by the House democrats in any manner.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,148 posts)
11. He accuses teachers of child abuse, but says it's the left who practices "cancel culture"?
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:32 PM
Sep 2020

Saying there are teachers abusing children is one of the most effective ways of "cancelling" them possible.

1776: The American Revolution.

2020: The American Cultural Revolution. This time with Miracles.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
27. Hard to fathom their "vision" for this "corrective" curriculum
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:09 PM
Sep 2020

It's difficult to see how they plan to "whitewash" reality. Do they really think we should be "celebrating" that "miracle" period from 1776 to 1863 in which enslaved people were lawfully dehumanized and abused to build the nation into a financial power? How will they describe the following 100 years of judicially enforced segregation? How will they describe the devastating effects of the institutionalized racism that followed?

It boggles the mind.


The Mouth

(3,122 posts)
47. Yes, they do.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 12:13 PM
Sep 2020

" Do they really think we should be "celebrating" that "miracle" period from 1776 to 1863 in which enslaved people were lawfully dehumanized and abused to build the nation into a financial power"

There are tens of millions of Americans who would gladly go back to those days. Pretending otherwise is stupid.

AllyCat

(16,034 posts)
12. If what he is doing is "American values, culture, and faith" I want no part of it.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:34 PM
Sep 2020

That is not what we signed up for. That is not what our Constitution says. Being anti-racist is not Marxist. It's human decency and is what our country stands for. If that is no longer what we stand for, then we vote him out or it's time to get out.

Lonestarblue

(9,874 posts)
13. This is one initiative that has already been accomplished.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:35 PM
Sep 2020

Conservatives on school boards and state education boards have already ensured that the history taught in our schools has been thoroughly whitewashed. I’ve shared this story here before, but a few years ago a high school history book described slaves as black immigrants who came here to work! You can’t get anymore whitewashed than that. A parent looked at the book and contacted the media. The resulting outrage forced the publisher to make a correction in future printings, but hundreds of thousands of books were already in schools. It was thus up to teachers in a conservative state (Texas) to teach the truth. How many did?

This problem is compounded by the textbooks used by children who are home schooled. Parents are free to choose textbooks that are different from those used in the local schools. Many of them are published specifically for the home school market, and they go through no vetting for accuracy and bias. The science books are especially bad because they teach creationism and very little real science, just enough to pass any required state tests and a lot of Biblical stuff that is never on a test. School districts are supposed to monitor home schooling, but many are too busy to bother. Roughly 2.5 million students were home schooled before the pandemic, so it is not an insignificant number. Some parents home school to address the special needs of their children, but many home school because they are teaching content that would not be accepted in public schools.

modrepub

(3,467 posts)
17. Comes With Your Own Sharpie
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:51 PM
Sep 2020

To blot out and change the parts you don't believe in.

Seriously, how come it's "State and Local Rights" when the Democratic Party is in control and "Strong Federalism" when Republicans are in control?

regnaD kciN

(26,035 posts)
18. So, let me get this straight...
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:52 PM
Sep 2020

Teaching about racism = child abuse.
Expressing a desire to “date” your own teenage daughter = NOT child abuse.

aggiesal

(8,864 posts)
29. As I see it ...
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:13 PM
Sep 2020

Teaching about ANTI-Racism = Marxism = child abuse
Expressing a desire to “date” your own teenage daughter =

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
20. I can't wait to see their version of the. . .
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 05:57 PM
Sep 2020

. . ."miracle of American history” from 1776 to 1863. How will they brush aside 35% of the history of this nation? How will they "whitewash" that "miracle" period in which enslaved people were dehumanized and abused to build the nation into a financial power? How will they describe the following 100 years of judicially enforced segregation? How will they describe the devastating effects of the institutionalized racism that followed?

I just can't wait.

Javaman

(62,439 posts)
23. If you still had doubts about the orange murderer going full fascist if he's reelected...
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:02 PM
Sep 2020

those doubts should now be removed.

SergeStorms

(18,882 posts)
24. "Patriotic Education" according to whom?
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:03 PM
Sep 2020

Donald Rump? Will our children be taught about the Revolutionary War air bases from which General Washington directed the successful sorties that won the war for the fledgling United States?

ffr

(22,644 posts)
28. Lesson 1: How to betray American troops that your enemies have bounties on
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:11 PM
Sep 2020

tRump can teach that lesson personally.

TRAITOR!

nwliberalkiwi

(366 posts)
32. What Are You Reading?!!!
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:20 PM
Sep 2020

I'm currently reading Howard Zinn's "A Peoples History of the United States" I'm sure the RW Fascists would not want American's reading that book!!! I can see book burning coming back into fashion!!! You might want to look up this POS member of Trump's regime: Russ Vought. How easy this country can slip into Fascism.

BarbD

(1,190 posts)
36. Howard Zinn is amazing.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:42 PM
Sep 2020

I also suggest Eduardo Galeano's, "The Open Veins of Latin America": Following is a quote from him on "nobodies":
"Fleas dream of buying themselves a dog, and nobodies dream of escaping poverty: that one magical day, good luck will suddenly rain down on them -- will rain down in buckets. But good luck doesn't rain down, yesterday, today, tomorrow or ever. Good luck doesn't even fall in a fine drizzle, no matter how hard the nobodies summon it, even if their left hand is tickling, or if they begin a new day on their right foot, or start the new year with a change of brooms. The nobodies, nobody's children, owners of nothing. The nobodies, the no-ones, the nobodies, running like rabbits, dying through life, screwed every which way. Who are not, but could be. Who don't speak languages, but dialects. Who don't have religions, but superstitions. Who don't create art, but handcrafts. Who don't have culture, but folklore. Who are not human beings, but human resources. Who do not have faces, but arms. Who do not have names, but numbers. Who do not appear in the history of the world, but in the crime reports of the local paper. The nobodies, who are not worth the bullet that kills them."

Someone has to speak for the nobodies of history.

SeattleVet

(5,468 posts)
45. I've been reading that, too!
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:15 PM
Sep 2020

I started a week or so ago. Been hearing about it for many years, and finally decided to see what all the venom coming from the far-reich was about.

Almost done with the Mexican-American War section.

Throughout the text so far, I really like the way he uses actual quotes and documents from the people that actually participated in these events. Makes it very hard for anyone who's actually read it to make nonsensical claims about it...all the proof anyone needs is right there, in the text.

pat_k

(9,313 posts)
49. Read it years, and years ago
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:33 PM
Sep 2020

It may have been the first edition. It's probably time to revisit.

These are the two books I'm reading at the moment (sort of going back and forth):

The Science of Evil: On Empathy and the Origins of Cruelty

Less Than Human: We We Demean, Enslave, and Exterminate Others


At the bottom of this webpage is a good list of resources to choose from.

After hearing about this "commission" the next on my list is:

Lies My Teacher Told Me: Everything Your American History Textbook Got Wrong.

patphil

(6,024 posts)
33. Trump doesn't like Marxist doctrine, he prefers Facist doctrine.
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:21 PM
Sep 2020

Same evil bullshit, different source.
Historical revisionism is only good if it's his brand of bullshit.

I'm sure Trump would say he is blind to color differences. He only sees white. Everything else is of no consequence to him.
He won't "submit to tyranny", but he is okay if you're forced to.

Patriotic education? He sounds more and more like Hitler every day.

rurallib

(62,342 posts)
37. Calling David Barton!
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 06:43 PM
Sep 2020

Didn't George W talk about "pushing the propaganda"?

Anybody want to take a guess as to how many old white guys will be on this commission?
It will be equal to the number of seats.

bucolic_frolic

(42,661 posts)
38. What happened to get the government off our backs? Education is freedom not propaganda
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 07:09 PM
Sep 2020

Now they're going to tell us what to think?

CRK7376

(2,187 posts)
44. Sieg Heil mein furher!
Thu Sep 17, 2020, 11:10 PM
Sep 2020

Eat shit and die trumpster. I already teach patriotism, loyalty to my country and if the 1619 Project hurts your little bitty feelings too bad asshole. Suck it up and shut up. Along with other good and horrific things we as a nation have done along with all the good we have accomplished. It's balanced History. Some good, some bad, I don't sugar coat it and I lay it on the line for the kids in my high school every day, even now in remote leaning mode.....Hurry up January 20th.

melm00se

(4,973 posts)
46. It will be the right wing equivalent of the 1619 Project
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 08:32 AM
Sep 2020

Please bear in mind that one of the reasons for the teaching of history, all the way back to Ancient Greece, is to instill a sense of what it is to be __________________.

Without that, countries really would just end up as a bunch of people who live close to each other and share a common language.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
50. Our young don't need "patriotic education" - they deserve the goddamn truth.
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 03:59 PM
Sep 2020

We will all be stronger when we look at an honest cool headed assessment America’s past, present, and future. Not some bullshit jingoistic flag waving happy talk.

Yeehah

(4,523 posts)
51. Four months and one day until the Trump crime syndicate is finished
Fri Sep 18, 2020, 04:19 PM
Sep 2020

and the investigations into their crimes against this nation begin. THAT will go into the history books.

quaker bill

(8,223 posts)
54. We had this sort of thing growing up
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 11:34 AM
Sep 2020

no one paid it much attention. We also had films on the dangers of MJ, Christian prayer, and church recruitment presentations. All were pretty much entirely ignored.

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