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BumRushDaShow

(128,514 posts)
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:11 PM Sep 2020

Ricin Is Said to Have Been Sent to White House

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — An envelope addressed to the White House contained a substance that federal investigators identified as the lethal substance ricin, according to a law enforcement official briefed on the inquiry. It is unclear when the envelope was intercepted before it reached the White House mail room, but investigators believe that it was sent from Canada, according to the official.

Federal investigators are working to track down who sent it and determine whether other envelopes have been sent through the postal system. Ricin, which is part of the waste produced when castor oil is made, has no known antidote.The White House could not be immediately reached for comment.

In 2011, four Georgia men were arrested and later sentenced to prison for plotting to spread the toxin simultaneously in five American cities, targeting federal and state officials. That same year, American counterterrorism officials said they were increasingly tracking the possibility that Al Qaeda would use ricin in attacks against the United States.

Two years later, a Mississippi man sent letters containing ricin to President Barack Obama and a Republican senator in an attempt to frame a rival. The letters were intercepted at sorting facilities.


Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/19/us/politics/ricin-white-house-postal-service.html

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Ricin Is Said to Have Been Sent to White House (Original Post) BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 OP
this has Stephen-Miller-Dumb-Jared false flag written all over it DaisyTom Sep 2020 #1
That was my first thought... I'll say no more. hlthe2b Sep 2020 #3
So a conspiracy involving the FBI, Secret Service and the Postal Service. former9thward Sep 2020 #48
This is just as phony as johnnyfins Sep 2020 #5
Which reminds me.... SergeStorms Sep 2020 #36
Yes! "Peppered him pretty good" would be a fun news day. Evolve Dammit Sep 2020 #39
Doturd hunt?? LAUGHABLE. The moron can't even catch an underhanded baseball ..... AZ8theist Sep 2020 #41
Memo to USPS: All mail must be stopped and searched to protect the president. dalton99a Sep 2020 #2
That's what's done anyhow, has been for years, The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #4
Lunatic Fringe! I Know you're out there. KWR65 Sep 2020 #6
... 2naSalit Sep 2020 #23
Fake News! bamagal62 Sep 2020 #7
Every "mailroom" in every public facility of any kind has protocols for this. It wouldn't surprise dameatball Sep 2020 #8
Every mailroom in all private facilities and corporations have protocols got checking every LiberalArkie Sep 2020 #16
Why aren't they saying show it was addressed to? I can't access the article so if it says that can chowder66 Sep 2020 #9
They said addressed to Trump. nt tblue37 Sep 2020 #12
Thanks! chowder66 Sep 2020 #13
There's not much more to it than what was posted. The Velveteen Ocelot Sep 2020 #17
I saw the info about Canada but didn't see who it was addressed to. That's been cleared up. Thanks! chowder66 Sep 2020 #18
The NYT had broke it first but here is a link to the johnny-come-lately CNN article BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #21
Yeah, right. tblue37 Sep 2020 #10
+1 n/t area51 Sep 2020 #43
So.... Traildogbob Sep 2020 #11
This smacks of a staged Trump press event. procon Sep 2020 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author PSPS Sep 2020 #15
fake news yaesu Sep 2020 #19
Was the envelope labeled "Top Quality Adderal enclosed"? Nt Fiendish Thingy Sep 2020 #20
Sorry but Im skeptical about anything that comes out of this administration. bullimiami Sep 2020 #22
I would not be surprised if this was: Operaweeble Sep 2020 #24
I flat out do not believe it. marble falls Sep 2020 #25
The public really doesn't know what to think bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #26
One of Dumps cocaine shipments. roamer65 Sep 2020 #27
That's what I thought. Should have labeled it "Adderall"..... AZ8theist Sep 2020 #40
A right-wing false flag operation. hadEnuf Sep 2020 #28
Fake News! pandr32 Sep 2020 #29
Yet another diversion. Totally unbelievable. (nt) Paladin Sep 2020 #30
Why did the name Roger Stone come up in my mind? I sure wish he NCjack Sep 2020 #31
Conservatives scratching each others' backs on both sides of the border? bucolic_frolic Sep 2020 #32
Sent from Canada..................I got a bridge.......................if anyone thinks that the turbinetree Sep 2020 #33
They don't have "defections machines" former9thward Sep 2020 #49
oops my mistake, fat fingers............. detection machines............ turbinetree Sep 2020 #50
bullshit trump red flag llashram Sep 2020 #34
If they were serious they'd hide it is a cheeseburger. rickyhall Sep 2020 #35
Or better BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #38
The October surprise.... WAR ON CANADA! SergeStorms Sep 2020 #37
HAHAHAHAHA!!! n/t EndlessWire Sep 2020 #44
postmark LPBBEAR Sep 2020 #42
I don't know what to believe EndlessWire Sep 2020 #45
You might recall right after 9/11, the whole anthrax fiasco and the mail BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #46
Well, yeah EndlessWire Sep 2020 #51
I mean I get what you are trying to suggest BumRushDaShow Sep 2020 #52
Who knows whether it's true or not? hamsterjill Sep 2020 #47
At least 20,000 according to Politifact... EarthFirst Sep 2020 #53
Sounds like complete bullshit to me. Paladin Sep 2020 #54
Return adress? Mike P and Mother? keithbvadu2 Sep 2020 #55
Oh Look, a convenient excuse to disrupt postal service operations The Animator Sep 2020 #56

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
48. So a conspiracy involving the FBI, Secret Service and the Postal Service.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:00 PM
Sep 2020

OK.... Why some people can't accept reality I don't know. There are nuts out there, deal with it.

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
36. Which reminds me....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:49 PM
Sep 2020

Does Donald Trump hunt? He and Dick(face) Cheney should go on a hunting trip, real soon!

AZ8theist

(5,415 posts)
41. Doturd hunt?? LAUGHABLE. The moron can't even catch an underhanded baseball .....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 08:37 PM
Sep 2020

How the hell would he fire a loaded gun??

2naSalit

(86,332 posts)
23. ...
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:06 PM
Sep 2020

I just had to post this started coursing through my head when I read your comment.




Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe
Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe - YouTube
www.youtube.com › watch
Lyrics
Lunatic Fringe
I know you're out there
You're in hiding
And you hold your meetings
I can hear you coming
And I know what you're after
We're wise to you this time
Let you kill the laughter
Uh huh
Uh huh
Uh huh
Lunatic fringe
In the twilight's last gleaming
This is open season
But you won't get too far
'Cause you gotta blame someone
For your own confusion
We're on guard this time
Against your final solution
Oh no
Uh huh
Uh huh
Uh huh
We can hear you comin'
No, you're not gonna win this time
(Not gonna win)
We can hear the footsteps
Way out along the walkway
(Out along the walkway)
Lunatic fringe
We all know you're out there
Can you feel the resistance
Can you feel the thunder, yeah

Songwriters: Thomas William Cochrane
Lunatic Fringe lyrics © Universal Music Publishing Group

dameatball

(7,395 posts)
8. Every "mailroom" in every public facility of any kind has protocols for this. It wouldn't surprise
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:31 PM
Sep 2020

me if some type of suspicious package was received at the White House every day, for a long, long time. This one just happens to be a very convenient leak, if anything.

LiberalArkie

(15,703 posts)
16. Every mailroom in all private facilities and corporations have protocols got checking every
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:43 PM
Sep 2020

item entering the facility however it was delivered.

chowder66

(9,055 posts)
9. Why aren't they saying show it was addressed to? I can't access the article so if it says that can
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:32 PM
Sep 2020

someone post it?

BumRushDaShow

(128,514 posts)
21. The NYT had broke it first but here is a link to the johnny-come-lately CNN article
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:58 PM
Sep 2020


A package containing the poison ricin and addressed to Trump intercepted by law enforcement

By Evan Perez, CNN

Updated 3:07 PM ET, Sat September 19, 2020

(CNN) A package containing the poison ricin and addressed to President Donald Trump was intercepted by law enforcement earlier this week, according to two law enforcement officials. Two tests were done to confirm the presence of ricin. All mail for the White House is sorted and screened at an offsite facility before reaching the White House. The FBI and Secret Service are investigating the matter.

Ricin is a highly toxic compound extracted from castor beans that has been used in terror plots. It can be used in powder, pellet, mist or acid form. If ingested, it causes nausea, vomiting and internal bleeding of the stomach and intestines, followed by failure of the liver, spleen and kidneys, and death by collapse of the circulatory system.

CNN has reached out to the White House and Secret Service for comment.


This story is breaking and will be updated.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/09/19/politics/package-poison-ricin-addressed-to-trump-intercepted/index.html

Traildogbob

(8,684 posts)
11. So....
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:36 PM
Sep 2020

“I really don’t care, do you”. Mix a little into his Aderal lines. No fucks left. My inspiration is I am younger than McDonnell, Trump and Barr. And I plan to stay as healthy as possible, so I will be here to cheer and party, when these old assholes are called home. Not advocating any violence, just wanna be here to celebrate an end, naturally, to pure evil. Fuck those high roads, look what that got us. All the blubber around the necks of all three of them has to eventually choke em out.

procon

(15,805 posts)
14. This smacks of a staged Trump press event.
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 03:40 PM
Sep 2020

How convenient. Now Trump will create a new venue to implicate Biden and Democrats in some conspiracy plot to assassinate him. Maybe Trump should ask his pal Putin how to stage his next performance art as a poison party.

Response to BumRushDaShow (Original post)

Operaweeble

(45 posts)
24. I would not be surprised if this was:
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:12 PM
Sep 2020

1. An inside job, meaning that a far-right faction did this to pin it on the left, making Trump, et al, able to play the "victim" card.

2. I t also is not out of the realm of possibilities that the Russians helped with this and told the White House to expect this.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
26. The public really doesn't know what to think
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 04:15 PM
Sep 2020

partly because these investigations of these types of incidents must be less than transparent to protect the targets.

But the timing here ... is it meant to distract? They've had 3.8 years and this happens now? I won't believe it coincidental until the evidence is known and shared publicly. Call me skeptical.

bucolic_frolic

(43,062 posts)
32. Conservatives scratching each others' backs on both sides of the border?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:17 PM
Sep 2020

Because the free market capitalists are in Canada too, particularly western oil territory

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
33. Sent from Canada..................I got a bridge.......................if anyone thinks that the
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:23 PM
Sep 2020

mail service up there does not have defections machines for this stuff..............well again I got a bridge............

former9thward

(31,941 posts)
49. They don't have "defections machines"
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:06 PM
Sep 2020

Whatever those are. No postal service examines mail at the beginning. Only at the end depending on who it is addressed to.

turbinetree

(24,683 posts)
50. oops my mistake, fat fingers............. detection machines............
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 11:29 PM
Sep 2020

thanks for the information............I would think any international mail would be checked prior to coming into any country.......

SergeStorms

(19,187 posts)
37. The October surprise.... WAR ON CANADA!
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 05:55 PM
Sep 2020

That's about the only re-election ruse Trump hasn't used yet, so get ready Canada, the full fury of Donald Trump is on the way!

LPBBEAR

(295 posts)
42. postmark
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:18 PM
Sep 2020

Based on the Trump administrations screwing with the USPS my guess is it was postmarked prior to July and just now arrived.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
45. I don't know what to believe
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 09:49 PM
Sep 2020

except that this will get played, and could completely stop the USPS. Not saying it will, just cautious about the whole thing.

BumRushDaShow

(128,514 posts)
46. You might recall right after 9/11, the whole anthrax fiasco and the mail
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:01 PM
Sep 2020

and how it badly impacted several post offices in NJ and I think FL. Ever since then, there have been all sorts of screening processes and procedures put in place, both at the post offices and in the mail rooms at all federal buildings (and particularly at the White House and in Congress) during the subsequent almost 20 years.

And you might also recall this guy and his mail bombs just 2 years ago (feels like forever ) -





https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/clintons-obama-suspicious-packages/index.html

All federally-targeted ones intercepted.

EndlessWire

(6,460 posts)
51. Well, yeah
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 12:41 AM
Sep 2020

I remember all that. But, Trump is twisted, and it would be nothing for him to say, despite all that you mention, that the mail has to be stopped while they check it all out. He has his fall guy in place to blame it all on. What are people gonna say? They can't say anything, because, you know, ricin...

I'm taking my ballot, completely filled out for blue candidates and Biden/Harris making certain it is properly signed, taking my driver's license, and packing for any kind of bullshit day, and I am going to hand carry it to the poll. It's the best I can do, a kind of special day where I get to stick it to the Orange Asshole. Then I wait.

BumRushDaShow

(128,514 posts)
52. I mean I get what you are trying to suggest
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 04:15 AM
Sep 2020

but the distaff side of that based on how he operates, is that he believes that he can come in and "save" things by "putting his people on it". And considering that the courts have already ruled against any attempts to halt disruption of the mail, then something like that will again get a rebuke.

In fact, any policy that even broaches that will pretty much destroy the GOP's election chances up and down the ballot at the state and local level, even if the deplorable "base" cheers every draconian measure that he attempts.

hamsterjill

(15,220 posts)
47. Who knows whether it's true or not?
Sat Sep 19, 2020, 10:37 PM
Sep 2020

How many lies has a Trump told? After so many, you learn not to believe what he says (or directs others to say).

I’m glad there are protocols in place to protect the people who would touch something like this. Surprised that Trump hadn’t disbanded the hazmat team - but then again, this ultimately protects him.

EarthFirst

(2,899 posts)
53. At least 20,000 according to Politifact...
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 06:08 AM
Sep 2020

Several articles from WaPo; Guardian; Politifact and others in July claiming 20K...

CNN claims 22 in just his acceptance speech at the RNC.

So you’re absolutely correct; who knows what or whom to believe from the WH anymore...

The Animator

(1,138 posts)
56. Oh Look, a convenient excuse to disrupt postal service operations
Sun Sep 20, 2020, 12:18 PM
Sep 2020

ahead of the election... Surely this must be the work of a Democrat hell bent on preventing mail in voting...
oh wait...

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