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Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:05 PM Sep 2020

Thousands of Proud Boys plan to rally in Portland, setting up another clash in a combustible city

Source: Washington Post

By
Cleve R. Wootson Jr.
September 25, 2020 at 8:03 p.m. CDT


PORTLAND, Ore. — Thousands of members of the far-right Proud Boys plan to mass at a park here on Saturday afternoon, setting up another clash of liberal and conservative extremes in a city that has become the public front line for combustible — and deadly — political conflict.

The so-called Western chauvinist group espouses pro-Trump, police-friendly rhetoric, but its members have a reputation for sparking fights with the far left that devolve into mayhem. After four months of steady protests in this city, its choice to bring an armed, extremist crowd from all corners of the country to the Pacific Northwest again turns Portland into an ideological battlefield, a place where speech has crossed a dangerous line into violence.

President Trump has fanned the flames, saying that Portland and other Democratic cities condone lawlessness; he has ordered federal agents to take a stand against protesters and to make arrests, creating us-versus-them standoffs that appear bent on pitting the right against the left and characterizing it as good against evil.

Some worry another collision is unavoidable on Saturday. The rally comes at an already delicate time for the City of Roses, where on Wednesday a Breonna Taylor protest at police headquarters morphed into a rock-throwing riot that police broke up with impact weapons and pepper spray. Antifa and other far-left groups are also vowing massive counter-protests Saturday.

Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/09/25/portland-oregon-proud-boys-rally/

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Thousands of Proud Boys plan to rally in Portland, setting up another clash in a combustible city (Original Post) Judi Lynn Sep 2020 OP
Sigh..."Antifa and other far-left groups..." regnaD kciN Sep 2020 #1
Yes, the lazy press/reporters/editors just keep doing that. PSPS Sep 2020 #5
The reporters are all interviewing QAnon now FakeNoose Sep 2020 #20
Pride cometh before a fall Blue Owl Sep 2020 #2
Related article: Oregon governor sends state police to Portland for protests Judi Lynn Sep 2020 #3
What to Greet Them With!!! nwliberalkiwi Sep 2020 #4
I kinda wish Karma13612 Sep 2020 #6
I'm with you... BlueIdaho Sep 2020 #8
And then the peaceful protesters are painted with the same violent Karma13612 Sep 2020 #15
I wish for them to be driven out. David__77 Sep 2020 #9
I sort of agree with you. murielm99 Sep 2020 #12
And I know how iffy my strategy sounds Karma13612 Sep 2020 #16
I totally agree with you. lamp_shade Sep 2020 #13
I agree with you. Owl Sep 2020 #14
Get those cameras & cell phones out so these brown shirt Nazi trouble makers can be arrested & or Illumination Sep 2020 #7
The "proud boys" is a un-American terrorist group rockfordfile Sep 2020 #10
Bring on the Tubas jmbar2 Sep 2020 #11
according to the righty hand jobs.? Maxheader Sep 2020 #17
The protestors should stay home that day. zanana1 Sep 2020 #18
It really IS that simple. Ignore them & nothing happens. Its not that hard. oldsoftie Sep 2020 #19
These are unlawful vigilantes, NOT militias. Greybnk48 Sep 2020 #21
agreed. AllaN01Bear Sep 2020 #22
They are obviously hoping to stir up violence captain queeg Sep 2020 #23
They were denied a permit but are doing it anyway? This is F'd up. What's the point of a permit? lettucebe Sep 2020 #24
No permit! WVreaper Sep 2020 #25
clips.... riversedge Sep 2020 #26

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
1. Sigh..."Antifa and other far-left groups..."
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:09 PM
Sep 2020

Did they go down to "Antifa headquarters" and interview an "Antifa spokesperson?"

Once again, spreading the false narrative that is just what Trump ordered.

FakeNoose

(32,634 posts)
20. The reporters are all interviewing QAnon now
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:46 PM
Sep 2020

... it's so much easier than going out and getting a real story.



Judi Lynn

(160,525 posts)
3. Related article: Oregon governor sends state police to Portland for protests
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:21 PM
Sep 2020

SARA CLINE
, Associated Press/Report for America
Sep. 25, 2020
Updated: Sep. 25, 2020 6:51 p.m.

SALEM, Ore. (AP) — Oregon Gov. Kate Brown declared a state of emergency Friday as she announced that state troopers and sheriff's deputies would be sent to Portland through the weekend to help police, in the state’s largest city, monitor a weekend rally by the right-wing group Proud Boys and counter protests by liberal groups

Portland has been roiled by often violent protests for more than three months following the police killing of George Floyd in Minneapolis.

. . .

Brown told reporters she is exercising her gubernatorial authority to place Multnomah County Sheriff Mike Reese and Oregon State Police Superintendent Travis Hampton in charge of Portland's public safety on Saturday and Sunday. Brown said that Portland Mayor Ted Wheeler supports the plan.

“This is our entire community coming together to protect our community,” Brown said. “We want the highest level of coordination and the strongest leadership possible."

More:
https://www.chron.com/news/article/Portland-protest-declared-unlawful-assembly-after-15596193.php

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
6. I kinda wish
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 10:42 PM
Sep 2020

All the peaceful protesters would simply stay away so the “proud boys” would look foolish having no one to protest against.
I know it sounds counter intuitive but just take the air out of their white supremecist sails.

All violence could be laid at the feet of proud boys alone.

BlueIdaho

(13,582 posts)
8. I'm with you...
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 11:15 PM
Sep 2020

The Bois won’t be satisfied until there is violence and this force meets force stuff is just so medieval...

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
15. And then the peaceful protesters are painted with the same violent
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 08:29 AM
Sep 2020

Brush.
And they face arrest, police brutality, etc from the skirmishes.
And ‘our side’ gets tarnished with the property damage fault as well.

We need a new tactic.
And I no longer think it is fair to say:
“Why aren’t people filling the streets to complain about such-n-such travesty”?

I’ll tell you why: Police brutality and the far right response.

David__77

(23,372 posts)
9. I wish for them to be driven out.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 12:30 AM
Sep 2020

I am glad there are people willing to confront them and deny them a platform.

murielm99

(30,736 posts)
12. I sort of agree with you.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 03:11 AM
Sep 2020

Make them look foolish.

A few years ago, a white supremacist group in my area decided to have an event, a picnic of sorts, in front of the courthouse. All sorts of counter protesters made plans to be there. The sheriff encouraged people to stay home.

In the end, one white supremacist, a proud member of the beer belly brigade, and his toothless hag wife, showed up for the picnic. There were hundreds of counter protesters.

If everyone had stayed home but the two losers, it would have made a better statement. It would have saved the sheriff's department a lot of money in overtime pay, too.

Maybe that is the best way. Sort of like, "What if they gave a war and nobody came?"

Notice I only sort of agree with you. I have to give this more thought.

Karma13612

(4,552 posts)
16. And I know how iffy my strategy sounds
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 08:41 AM
Sep 2020

Seems weak. And leaves us virtually silent. And appearing as if we gave in to the bully.

I am so saddened by the co-opting of our clearly peaceful-protesting-efforts, morphing into horrid scenes of violence and thuggery.

There needs to be a better way.

I’m not a wedding planner or organizer by nature. I am a cheerleader to the core.

Although it hasn’t happened yet, I am hoping I have one good “March on Washington DC” in me before I am a Septuagenarian. I am 66 now.



 

Illumination

(2,458 posts)
7. Get those cameras & cell phones out so these brown shirt Nazi trouble makers can be arrested & or
Fri Sep 25, 2020, 11:06 PM
Sep 2020

brought to justice!...

Maxheader

(4,373 posts)
17. according to the righty hand jobs.?
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 08:53 AM
Sep 2020

Its the rad left burning and looting....you think stumpy will promote more

carnage and blame it on the democrats?....

zanana1

(6,112 posts)
18. The protestors should stay home that day.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:06 AM
Sep 2020

I'd love to see a bunch of "proud boys" standing around with nothing to do.

oldsoftie

(12,533 posts)
19. It really IS that simple. Ignore them & nothing happens. Its not that hard.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 09:20 AM
Sep 2020

Just like the Klan; if nobody shows up when they march, they accomplish NOTHING

Greybnk48

(10,167 posts)
21. These are unlawful vigilantes, NOT militias.
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 01:02 PM
Sep 2020

These are crazy people living out basement fantasies, armed to the teeth. Why tf is this being allowed?

captain queeg

(10,183 posts)
23. They are obviously hoping to stir up violence
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 02:13 PM
Sep 2020

I hope counter protestors just stay home. I don’t even know if these dick heads actually have any specific platform. They are just anti-lib. What would they even do if no one showed up?

lettucebe

(2,336 posts)
24. They were denied a permit but are doing it anyway? This is F'd up. What's the point of a permit?
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 02:48 PM
Sep 2020

I'd thought them being denied the permit would mean no rally, but nope. It means nothing. I'm seriously sad since I live pretty close to Delta Park. Wish these virus spreaders would just go home.

WVreaper

(620 posts)
25. No permit!
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 07:39 PM
Sep 2020

Tear gas the mf'rs Arrest them! Shoot them up with rubber bullets but aim for the crotch. Head shots won't work.

riversedge

(70,198 posts)
26. clips....
Sat Sep 26, 2020, 08:40 PM
Sep 2020


https://twitter.com/i/events/1309900282428403717?s=20



?s=20



?s=20

https://www.oregonlive.com/portland/2020/09/portland-protests-bring-proud-boys-counter-demonstrators-saturday-live-updates.html

2:15 p.m., Proud Boys, Delta Park: Portland police announce they are investigating an assault on a person of color who was live-streaming video at the Proud Boys rally. They ask for eyewitnesses to help them solve the kicking and pushing attack on the individual, which was caught on video.





The attendance for the Portland rally was predicted to be in the thousands by the Proud Boys.

Here’s the actual crowd size



?s=20

State troopers said they made an arrest in a separate assault at a gas station near the park. They did not disclose any details about what happened...............
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