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reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 06:44 AM Sep 2020

Immigrants Say They Were Pressured Into Unneeded Surgeries

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Source: New York Times

The Irwin County Detention Center in Ocilla, Ga., drew national attention this month after a nurse, Dawn Wooten, filed a whistle-blower complaint claiming that detainees had told her they had had their uteruses removed without their full understanding or consent.

Since then, both ICE and the hospital in Irwin County have released data that show that two full hysterectomies have been performed on women detained at Irwin in the past three years. But firsthand accounts are now emerging from detainees, including Ms. Dowe, who underwent other invasive gynecological procedures that they did not fully understand and, in some cases, may not have been medically necessary.

It was the Irwin County center’s handling of the coronavirus pandemic that inspired Ms. Wooten, the nurse whose whistle-blower complaint was first reported by The Intercept, to come forward about another issue that troubled her: Dr. Amin’s surgeries. She said in an interview that she had for years noticed that an inordinate number of women were being referred to Dr. Amin. She said she would hear reports that they had undergone surgeries but that they had no idea why the surgeries were performed.

Data from ICE inspection reports show that the center, which is operated by a private prison company, Lasalle Corrections, refers more than 1,000 detainees a year for outside medical care, far more than most other immigration detention centers of the same size. It is not clear how many of these referrals are for gynecological care. Lasalle Corrections did not respond to requests for comment.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2020/09/29/us/immigrants-hysterectomies-gynecology-irwin-county-ICE.html?action=click&module=Top%20Stories&pgtype=Homepage

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Immigrants Say They Were Pressured Into Unneeded Surgeries (Original Post) reACTIONary Sep 2020 OP
TWO WORDS! louzke9 Sep 2020 #1
AND... louzke9 Sep 2020 #2
A simpler explanation would be... reACTIONary Sep 2020 #3
Intentionally exaggerating symptoms and knowingly performing unnecessary surgeries Yeehah Sep 2020 #9
Probably. But they will have... reACTIONary Sep 2020 #10
Kickbacks and Prejudice? Bayard Sep 2020 #6
Indict, prosecute, convict, imprison Yeehah Sep 2020 #4
Unless something more than what is known ... reACTIONary Sep 2020 #8
This doctor had an agenda. not_the_one Sep 2020 #5
It isn't at all obvious that the doctor had some sort of ideological agenda... reACTIONary Sep 2020 #7
After discussion with hosts ... LOCKING applegrove Sep 2020 #11

louzke9

(296 posts)
1. TWO WORDS!
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 08:41 AM
Sep 2020

Explain this! "PRIVATE PRISON"! Motive.....FOR PROFIT! Crime....BRIBERY! If this is happening at one private prison, it is surely happening in others.

louzke9

(296 posts)
2. AND...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 09:02 AM
Sep 2020

Not all gynecological procedures are "full hysterectomies"!

https://quartellmd.com/6-common-surgical-procedures-done-by-your-gynecologist/

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
3. A simpler explanation would be...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 11:22 AM
Sep 2020

... that the doctor was exaggerating symptoms and over treating the victims in order to inflate his billing. There are other possibilities, which do not involve any maleficence on the part of the doctor or the institutions.

Yeehah

(4,585 posts)
9. Intentionally exaggerating symptoms and knowingly performing unnecessary surgeries
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 05:23 PM
Sep 2020

is a crime, not just malpractice.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
10. Probably. But they will have...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 06:13 PM
Sep 2020

... a pretty hard time proving malpractice in a civil suit, let alone intentionality in a criminal case.

My guess is that some of these women may get a settlement with no admission of wrong doing, but I don't think it will go beyond that.

Of course, I've been wrong before, so we shall see.

Bayard

(22,057 posts)
6. Kickbacks and Prejudice?
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 12:09 PM
Sep 2020

Yeehah

(4,585 posts)
4. Indict, prosecute, convict, imprison
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 11:35 AM
Sep 2020

or the USA will devolve into fascist hell.

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
8. Unless something more than what is known ...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 04:10 PM
Sep 2020

... is revealed, there isn't anything to indict, prosecute convict or imprison over. My intuition is that nothing more will come of this than some civil suites for malpractice. My guess is that they would be hard to win, but they might get some settlement.

 

not_the_one

(2,227 posts)
5. This doctor had an agenda.
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 11:54 AM
Sep 2020

Last edited Tue Sep 29, 2020, 01:13 PM - Edit history (1)

These women OBVIOUSLY were not fit to be mothers (in his pathetic, warped mind), after all they were "illegal" immigrants of the wrong color.

What better way to further the cause than to make these women unable to have any further children, and THEN send them back to their countries that they were trying to escape from, as a warning, SEE WHAT WILL HAPPEN IF YOU TRY TO COME TO AMERICA? A judgement that is totally selective, based only on color.

Yet look at this doctor's name. Dr. Mahendra Amin. Sure doesn't look like an AMERICAN name to me.

This shit is exactly what the turd and the racist haters want. Never mind that in every case, at the most, two or three generations back their ancestors were more than likely immigrants. The turd's MOTHER was an immigrant. Too bad someone didn't declare HER unfit to have children.

This is the ugly underbelly of America. All you have to do is scratch the surface, and this ooze comes seeping out.

edit to delete the grammatically unneeded word "the" in second paragraph

reACTIONary

(5,770 posts)
7. It isn't at all obvious that the doctor had some sort of ideological agenda...
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 04:06 PM
Sep 2020

... this is probably no worse than a case of malpractice on the part of the doctor. If that.

applegrove

(118,613 posts)
11. After discussion with hosts ... LOCKING
Tue Sep 29, 2020, 11:08 PM
Sep 2020

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