Boris Johnson says UK should prepare for a no-deal Brexit and 'Australia-style' future

[Soph0571]

Source: The Guardian

And given that they have refused to negotiate seriously for much of the last few months and given that this summit appears explicitly to rule out a Canada-style deal, I’ve concluded that we should get ready for 1 January with arrangements that are more like Australia’s, based on simple principles of global free trade.

And we can do it because we always knew that there would be change on 1 January whatever type of relationship we had.

And so now is the time for our businesses to get ready and for our hauliers to get ready, for travellers to get ready.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/politics/live/2020/oct/16/uk-coronavirus-live-boris-johnson-local-restrictions-lockdown-tier-2-covid-brexit-latest-updates

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There is no such thing as an Australian deal. What they mean is no deal. The issue now is does he actually mean it or is he trying to bounce the EU into softening their position. It won't work. So 4 years after the referendum we will be on WTO trading rules in the middle of a pandemic and the worst recession in 400 years. The people that run the UK are criminal in disregard for our security and the impact that this will have particularly on the most vulnerable.

[CurtEastPoint]

1. But... the people spoke. Even though they were misled.

[ananda]

12. By Russia

I think Brexit was Russia's trial balloon.

[CurtEastPoint]

15. Yep. They want to see the powerful enemies weakened: UK, US...

[roamer65]

37. That is the goal of the Sino-Russian alliance...aka SCO.

Shanghai Cooperation Organization.

[Delphinus]

2. This

is so sad. I will never believe this original vote wasn't interfered with in some way by Russia or Cambridge Analytica or other factors.

[lonely bird]

3. The UK is fucked

I would not be surprised if Scotland declared itself independent and joined the EU. Boris Johnson had no clue what Brexit would do to the country.

[Soph0571]

4. This will see the break up of the Union for sure

Not just Scotland. There will be a border poll in Northern Ireland within 5 years...

[roamer65]

18. I can see reunification talks between Ireland and NI if there is a hard brexit.

[Javaman]

25. took the words out of my mouth...

Scotland and NI will be certainly in play. The Welsh have also made a few mumbles regarding forming a new "Britain" without the actual England part.

[roamer65]

26. I do believe the Good Friday Agreement has some sort of clause for NI to join Ireland.

[Javaman]

27. I think NI will certain employ that part willingly LOL nt

[roamer65]

28. I would hope so.

The future is staying in the EU, not leaving it.

NI has an actual secession mechanism, Scotland it will be tougher without one.

[Soph0571]

32. Border poll!

[roamer65]

33. I think NI would be better off in Ireland, rather than the UK.

Single common currency and full access to the EU common market.

German and French transfer payments as well. Life would be better for them under the Franco-German alliance.

[Soph0571]

29. That is what I was talking about in a border poll

It will happen.

[roamer65]

30. Didn't know that was the precise term for it.

If BoJo does a hard brexit, there will be a border poll and a Scottish independence referendum.

I agree with you...100 percent.

England can do nothing about Irish reunification if the referendum is a yes on both sides.

Scotland will be much stickier.

[Soph0571]

34. Yes but no

If a border poll calls for reunification, it will be terribly difficult for the gov of the day to deny the Scots a new referendum. We are living through history right now.

[roamer65]

36. Yes, the world map is going to rearrange significantly before the war.

The upheaval we are seeing now is going to start a large war eventually, IMO.

[roamer65]

17. Scotland has every right to secede if BoJo does a hard brexit.

[beachbumbob]

5. Putin is smiling as he taken down 2 of his top foes with out firing a single bullet

I can't sympathize one bit for england as elections have consequences and they have had a couple over the past 4 years to correct the situation. Here in the US we have our 2nd chance with 2018 being a huge success and no doubt the 2020 outcome will be a similar success.

[Cosmocat]

7. YEP

nm

[roamer65]

38. Trump is symptom of the disease.

The United States is a dying empire. That will not change no matter who we elect. Joe Biden will at least work hard to make things better for the average folks.

There are a lot of parallels to the Roman Empire.

[muriel_volestrangler]

6. Australia, of course, negotiated to form an 11-country trade agreement with its neighbours

rather than bickering constantly with them and ending up as Johnny-No-Mates.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Comprehensive_and_Progressive_Agreement_for_Trans-Pacific_Partnership

Fuck, even Trump kept the deal with Canada and Mexico.

[GoneOffShore]

8. He's testiculating again.

Defined as waving his arms around and talking bollocks.

[marble falls]

9. That little bit is the closest I've come to understanding what's going on. Thanks!

[Yeehah]

10. UK really screwed itself over voting for brexit

Thanks to right-wing imbeciles.

[Lonestarblue]

11. It's interesting that three countries where Rupert Murdoch has media are screwed up.

Australia is less screwed up than the US and the UK, but their prime minister s a right-wing climate denier. Murdoch’s media have totally contributed to the right-wing, populist movements here and in the UK that helped elect Trump and bring about Brexit. The Russians helped as well.

[GulfCoast66]

13. Australia? Hell they can at least feed themselves!

Without trade Briton would starve! And I imagine feeding themselves is going to get more expensive.

[bucolic_frolic]

14. Never vote for a candidate with undisciplined hair

particularly if it's blonde.

[PaulRevere08]

16. Yep, just like Australia trucks won't be able to drive to the continent.

[malthaussen]

19. Quelle surprise.

Anybody who thinks he really wanted a deal is too easily duped.

-- Mal

[greenjar_01]

20. High Putinism

Good job, dumbasses.

[Cosmo Blues]

21. Who wants

Or needs to do a trade deal with Boris. That may prove to be a sticky wicket

[Demsrule86]

22. The UK has no industry to speak of and can't even feed themselves. Australia has

a natural resources and is a big country.

[hedda_foil]

23. Soph, you said.it's the UK's "worst recession in 400 years.". Is that right?

[Soph0571]

31. Yep. Worst recession is before America became America

That is where we are

[hedda_foil]

39. Unbelievable! And this is prior to the final Brexit date.

[Kid Berwyn]

24. Yeah, I'll say.

“For those with a qualified meat card, the entree for dinner tonight is the Tudor Surprize. Again.”

[roamer65]

35. In 5 years there will be no UK.

Only England...and maybe Wales...maybe.

NI will be reunified with Ireland, and Scotland will be a fully independent EU member nation.

Eventually the United States is going to break up. Electing Joe Biden is only going to delay the inevitable. Trump is a symptom and not the actual disease. The disease is that the United States is now a dying empire in the convulsionary stage.

If Trump steals the election, the break up will happen with 2-3 years.