'A disgrace to democracy': Dozens of ballots destroyed in suspected arson of a Boston drop box
Source: Washington Post
The FBI and Boston police are searching for a suspect in the alleged arson of a ballot box Sunday morning in Boston. (Boston Police Department/EPA-EFE/Shutterstock)
The fire started early Sunday morning inside a ballot drop box in Bostons Back Bay neighborhood. By the time firefighters doused the fire by filling the inside of the box with water, dozens of ballots inside had been destroyed.
Now, the FBI and Boston police are searching for a suspect in the alleged arson, an act that local authorities decried as an attack on democracy itself.
What happened in the early hours of this morning to the ballot dropbox in Copley Square is a disgrace to democracy, a disrespect to the voters fulfilling their civic duty, and a crime, said a joint statement from Boston Mayor Marty Walsh (D) and Massachusetts Secretary of State William Galvin (D).
The incident is at least the second alleged arson attack this month on ballot drop boxes, which have emerged as a popular option for the record numbers of Americans voting remotely to avoid polling places during the coronavirus pandemic. In Southern California last week, as many as 100 ballots were endangered when a drop box was set on fire.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/10/26/boston-ballot-dropbox-arson-election/
The Magistrate
(95,244 posts)Ought to turn up the criminal....
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intheflow
(28,462 posts)Could also be one of the people who literally want to burn the whole system down. But honestly, I think this was random destruction. I mean, who would target Massachusetts ballots if they wanted a Trump victory. Even if they burned 10 ballot boxes in Boston, the state is still going blue no matter what!
soothsayer
(38,601 posts)Link to tweet
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Jennifer Taub
@jentaub
🔥Hey Boston friends! Please read this
Boston Election Department
@BostonElections
If you used our Copley Square ballot dropbox on Saturday, October 24, between 2:30 p.m. and 4 a.m. today, please contact us at 617-635-2211 to check the status of your ballot.
3825-87867
(843 posts)Maybe they got their wake up call from Vlad?
Maybe they were "awakened" for Portland, et al.?
Gonna get ugly.
Sapient Donkey
(1,568 posts)This could very well just be a mentally ill person lashing out at society in an antisocial way. If it's not that, but rather part of some larger plot, then the dude was probably paid by someone to do it.
BumRushDaShow
(128,855 posts)We are at the point were NO DROP BOX SHOULD BE ON AN OPEN STREET. They are playing fucking hard ball. These boxes need to be INSIDE a government facility where that will at least reduce the number of idiots trying to do a "walk-by arson" on them. This is going to happen more and more. Trying to twitter-notify people "after the fact" doesn't cut it.
Our elections officials TRULY need to prepare for "guerilla warfare-like" tactics and plan for the absolute WORST.
onetexan
(13,036 posts)Auggie
(31,163 posts)NorthOf270
(290 posts)Someone's gonna have to lock the doors on those building for "safety" too at some point.
It's a goddamn shame.
It's a vicious cycle. This shouldn't be happening any more than someone lighting mailboxes on fire.
I hope volunteers come forward to protect these boxes day and night.
BumRushDaShow
(128,855 posts)Here in Philly, we have "Satellite Elections Offices" and the "drop boxes" (which were actually tall rolling mail "bins" ) were inside the facility and there were elections staffers there at the door to confirm you had a ballot to drop off, after which you walked inside, they rolled the bin to you, and you put your ballot through the slot at the top of the bin.
The city has at least one "metal drop box" outside of City Hall and although that location is obviously monitored with cameras, etc., there's nothing stopping someone from vandalizing it.
There can be a "balance" of security and access.
NorthOf270
(290 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,855 posts)and here in Philly, they have specific schedule for hours when the "Satellite Elections Offices" are open -
The "outside" boxes (I just found out that there are a pile of them now) are 24/7 - https://www.phila.gov/voting/#/?services=Official%20mail-in%20ballot%20drop%20box
(but apparently "outside" of monitored facilities - all city facilities except Eastern State Penitentiary, which is sortof wild that one is there because it is a historic tourist site )
Remember - these are "mail-in" ballots so they can be mailed too. Many don't feel they want to trust the mail so they prefer to submit them "in person". And this is not precluding voting "in person" on election day. We do NOT have "early 'in-person' voting" here in PA. It's merely "no-excuse absentee voting" (along with regular absentee voting) where people have the option to either put it in the mail OR drop it off.
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)over Halloween might want to drop off ballots while they're there.
BumRushDaShow
(128,855 posts)the site hosted a "Justice Votes" Town Hall discussing various criminal justice issues including prison reform, where both Kamala Harris and Corey Booker participated when they were still running in the primaries (intro starts at 41:20, Town Hall starts at 44:32) -
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)as the 2nd most scariest/haunted place in the entire US. It is creepy just viewing the pictures or video.
BumRushDaShow
(128,855 posts)if Market St. was detoured due to events at Independence Mall or parades/protests around there or if the Art Museum area was closed, I would go further north to Fairmount Ave. so I could come out at Kelly Drive to avoid the closures, and would drive past it.
My mother used to be a social worker, first for the state and then the city, and she was absolutely disgusted with it and would occasionally mention what went on it there (I think they finally closed it as an operational prison in the early '70s).
When they do those Halloween things in there, they would pull the big stone gargoyles out of storage and return them to the parapets -
It's a bizarre megalith in the middle of that neighborhood. In fact the whole neighborhood is almost unrecognizable now that they have gentrified it calling it the "Fairmount/Art Museum" area, so if anything, that drop box would be for the residents!
DeminPennswoods
(15,278 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,855 posts)but they are heavy and the spots where they go are exposed and could make them unstable over time, with the risk of tumbling off.
http://americanpublichousereview.com/2009.10/eastern_state_penitentiary_philadelphia_pa/index.html
bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)The drop box where I voted had 2 security labeled "Sheriff" on their uniforms. Don't know if they were actual LE personnel or supplemental deputized (I don't imagine we carry too many spare Sheriffs). Signs warned of 24.7 video monitoring. Drop box indoors.
You'd think they know that anything goes in Boston, which only encourages criminals to find holes in security. Nice 1990s grainy security footage!
Evolve Dammit
(16,723 posts)OnlinePoker
(5,719 posts)The first was in California.
https://www.newsweek.com/fbi-probe-boston-ballot-drop-box-fire-1542018
If I found him.....
I'll stop there.
not_the_one
(2,227 posts)the good people of Boston to id the suspect.
Offer a reward. Sad, but it could help loosen some info...
IronLionZion
(45,427 posts)I wouldn't be surprised if GOP were paying people to do this in blue cities in swing states, but in Boston it was probably just an idiot.
dware
(12,363 posts)BOSTON (AP) A man was charged with setting a Boston ballot drop box on fire and damaging dozens of ballots, police said Monday.
Worldy Armand, a 39-year-old Boston resident, was taken into custody late Sunday, hours after he started a fire inside a drop box outside the Boston Public Library in the citys Back Bay neighborhood that contained more than 120 ballots, authorities said.
Armand faces a charge of willful and malicious burning, police said. It was not immediately clear whether he has an attorney to speak for him.
The FBI had said Sunday that its investigating. Federal authorities urged members of the public to remain vigilant and immediately report any suspicious, election-related activity.