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Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:25 PM Oct 2020

Walmart Pulls Guns, Ammo Displays in U.S. Stores, Citing Civil Unrest

Source: Wall Street Journal

Walmart Inc. has removed all guns and ammunition from the sales floors of its U.S. stores this week, aiming to head off any potential theft of firearms if stores are broken into amid social unrest.

The retail giant, which sells firearms in about half of its 4,700 U.S. stores, said customers can still purchase guns and ammunition upon request even though they are no longer on display.

“We have seen some isolated civil unrest and as we have done on several occasions over the last few years, we have moved our firearms and ammunition off the sales floor as a precaution for the safety of our associates and customers,” a Walmart spokesman said. The company hasn’t decided how long the items will stay out of view, he said.

There have been days of violent protests and looting this week in Philadelphia after police fatally shot a Black man holding a knife in the city Monday.

Read more: https://www.wsj.com/articles/walmart-pulls-guns-ammo-displays-in-u-s-stores-citing-civil-unrest-11604002136

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Walmart Pulls Guns, Ammo Displays in U.S. Stores, Citing Civil Unrest (Original Post) Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 OP
Believe me, their only concern is being sued louis-t Oct 2020 #1
They're still selling guns and ammo, just not displaying them. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #5
The article I read says they are louis-t Oct 2020 #17
The article says they're still selling them, just that they're not on display. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #18
At least a step in the right direction. Duppers Oct 2020 #42
What's wrong with selling bolt action rifles and .22's? Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #45
Ask poster up-thread. 😉 Duppers Oct 2020 #49
I'm certainly not going to complain ... anyone else? (nt) mr_lebowski Oct 2020 #2
I'll give it a go Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #13
I'm not sure I follow you. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #15
Not based on knowledge or based on ordinary conditions Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #19
Possible, I suppose, but in my experience the staff of any given gun shop are far more interested Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #20
When upthread Mr_lebowski said he wasn't going to complain, Clearly fogged in Oct 2020 #22
Gun store near me advertises that if you are a Democrat, you are not welcome in their store. Midnight Writer Oct 2020 #40
Certainly not the sort of thing I've seen in my neck of the woods. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #47
It really doesn't matter. They have been arming up since the black man took office. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #21
This x 1000 Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #24
To a much larger degree, certainly. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #27
So they sold more guns than People died from Covid? yuiyoshida Oct 2020 #30
In all of 2020, there will likely by roughly 20 to 25 million firearms sold in the United States. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #33
Yeh it sounds like they want a civil war.... yuiyoshida Oct 2020 #34
Ammo sales are also way up since O elected. Have you seen stats on that? Nice graphic BTW. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #53
The only stat I could find on ammo is that sales are up around 100% since Covid-19 hit. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #55
I just remember per friends, all the shortages after O was elected. And same now. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #56
Huh?? I thought Obama took all their guns. The ones they bought after Bill Clinton took them too Bengus81 Oct 2020 #46
Hell, nothing was banned under Obama. Trump banned bump stocks. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #48
NRA was very effective at scaring the membership to believe that lie for decades. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #54
Good and hopefully they never return Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #3
They're still selling them, they just aren't on display. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #6
Even getting the displays down is something Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #7
They'll almost certainly go back up before too long. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #9
Possibly, but in the Retail World ain't nuthin' guaranteed Sherman A1 Oct 2020 #12
Well, that didn't take long. They're going back on the shelves beginning today. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #58
Good job. Mike 03 Oct 2020 #4
Who would have ever thought that Walmart would become the social Conscience of the country? Under The Radar Oct 2020 #8
Ikr! SheltieLover Oct 2020 #11
They aren't NOT selling guns and ammo. Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #25
True. IMO, not about conscience as much as wnylib Oct 2020 #35
+1 Ferrets are Cool Oct 2020 #37
Far from it. This is not conscience. This is good business. ancianita Oct 2020 #38
Whatever their motivations, for now, YES. One more precaution is welcomed. N/T Guilded Lilly Oct 2020 #10
My take? There are virtually zero RWers that do not have guns already. "Rioters" are the dameatball Oct 2020 #14
The powder keg republic of tRumpistan. nt yaesu Oct 2020 #16
The right vs. left war that hardline RWers wnylib Oct 2020 #36
Doesn't matter. Everyone who wanted to be armed to the teeth, is. Good Luck to all of us. Evolve Dammit Oct 2020 #23
Walmart Pulls Guns, Ammo Displays in U.S. Stores, Citing Civil Unrest FelineOverlord Oct 2020 #26
If they are only taking them off display then they are still somewhere in-store . Anyone with a will Ford_Prefect Oct 2020 #28
Stop selling these items of death warmfeet Oct 2020 #29
They don't sell handguns or military-style semiautomatics. Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #32
I own seven guns. Not all the guns in my family, not by a long shot. Get the pun? warmfeet Nov 2020 #59
I simply asked you a question. What do you find objectionable about Walmart selling lever action Dial H For Hero Nov 2020 #60
Good idea, that Hekate Oct 2020 #31
About damn time. How many Walmart shooters bought their gun from the same store they shot up? 0nirevets Oct 2020 #39
On a lighter note, back in the 1980's, wnylib Oct 2020 #41
good idea rockfordfile Oct 2020 #43
Yes that is a smart move right now. Initech Oct 2020 #44
This is huuuuge! Walmart is Flyover Central. they are red, white, and blue! If they are not Nitram Oct 2020 #50
I guess the trumpkins will kacekwl Oct 2020 #51
Sounds to me like they're afraid of protesters arming themselves by looting the stores pecosbob Oct 2020 #52
update: Walmart to return firearms to the sales floor today Dial H For Hero Oct 2020 #57

louis-t

(23,267 posts)
1. Believe me, their only concern is being sued
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:26 PM
Oct 2020

after they sell guns and ammo to someone who then commits mass murder.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
18. The article says they're still selling them, just that they're not on display.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:58 PM
Oct 2020
The retail giant, which sells firearms in about half of its 4,700 U.S. stores, said customers can still purchase guns and ammunition upon request even though they are no longer on display.

Duppers

(28,117 posts)
42. At least a step in the right direction.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:39 PM
Oct 2020

Yes, they should be pulled altogether but this beats doing nothing.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
13. I'll give it a go
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:40 PM
Oct 2020

If in general, someone familiar with firearms would be a better sales rep in that department, would that person have tendencies to favor customers of like mind over others? What frightens me is that the militia minded now have possession and control over the weapons lockers. Excuse the hyperbole, but are there any safeguards at all?

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
15. I'm not sure I follow you.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:49 PM
Oct 2020
If in general, someone familiar with firearms would be a better sales rep in that department, would that person have tendencies to favor customers of like mind over others?


What do you mean by "favor" in this case? How would you anticipate that such a sales clerk would treat customers differently based upon their firearms knowledge, other than educating those without such knowledge?


Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
19. Not based on knowledge or based on ordinary conditions
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:59 PM
Oct 2020

I'm saying a localized event is possible, nothing with developed organization. Thinking in terms of a group like Bundy's, if I approached the counter it would be no-sale. Lefty the local can have whatever he wants because .

Edit - No Sale, not on sale

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
20. Possible, I suppose, but in my experience the staff of any given gun shop are far more interested
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:09 PM
Oct 2020

in the making a sale than in the flavor of any particular customer's politics. Mind you, a customer who has given them lot of business in the past might be given first dibs on a particular rifle that's in demand at the moment.

Clearly fogged in

(1,896 posts)
22. When upthread Mr_lebowski said he wasn't going to complain,
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:13 PM
Oct 2020

A bitching sailor is a happy sailor, so opportunity seized

Midnight Writer

(21,708 posts)
40. Gun store near me advertises that if you are a Democrat, you are not welcome in their store.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:34 PM
Oct 2020

They will not serve you.

They even have signs posted on their windows.

Now, how they will know you are a Democrat is another question, even though this is a small town of about two thousand and everybody knows everybody's business around here.

The same is true of the gun clubs around here, of which there are several. These are places where you can shoot paper targets with Hillary and Jane Fonda pictured on them.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
47. Certainly not the sort of thing I've seen in my neck of the woods.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 09:23 PM
Oct 2020

Then again, I live in a city whose metropolitan area population is around two million, not two thousand.

That's not to deny for a moment that the staff of the gun shops here are overwhelmingly right wing or Libertarian...but I've never seen it get to the point that they let it interfere with making a sale.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
27. To a much larger degree, certainly.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:26 PM
Oct 2020

Worth noting is that while previous spikes in gun sales typically lasted for a month or two, records have been broken every month since April this year (the chart only shiow the beginning of the Covid sales spike).

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
30. So they sold more guns than People died from Covid?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:45 PM
Oct 2020

I am thinking that will change by December... hopefully Biden will have won by then!

yuiyoshida

(41,818 posts)
34. Yeh it sounds like they want a civil war....
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:58 PM
Oct 2020

I guess we shall see NOV 3RD. I have already voted, staying indoors that day... not that SF is a violent place, its not.. Just Its gonna be crazy ON Election night.


Think what happened in LA when the Lakers won the Championships...it will be TWICE THAT...when Donald Trump loses.

Sherman A1

(38,958 posts)
12. Possibly, but in the Retail World ain't nuthin' guaranteed
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:36 PM
Oct 2020

Stuff is moving all the time and if they find that the space is just as or more productive without the guns, it will be re-set to another purpose. It is about moving product, what product that is makes no difference.

Under The Radar

(3,401 posts)
8. Who would have ever thought that Walmart would become the social Conscience of the country?
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:32 PM
Oct 2020

First the drop the sales of semi automatic guns and large ammo clips, increase their employees wages above minimum wage across the country, the first to have a mask mandate and enforced social distancing....somewhere along the way I have lost my distaste for this company.

wnylib

(21,331 posts)
35. True. IMO, not about conscience as much as
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:07 PM
Oct 2020

about protecting merchandise from theft and recognizing the potential for loss during a period of civil unrest.

Another concern would be law suits for not protecting arms from easy theft in a dangerous situation. In retail, it's always about increasing sales, decreasing losses, and avoiding lawsuits.

ancianita

(35,932 posts)
38. Far from it. This is not conscience. This is good business.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:16 PM
Oct 2020

Walmart knows its markets and demographics. It's a question of liability, robbery, and selling more carefully (even discriminating about who they'll tell no to, or sell to). Everything you've credited them for has saved or improved their bottom line and lowered their financial risk. Theirs has been cost/benefit analysis.

THE top corporation on the continent has the corporate mindset and is better at meeting profit goals than any competitor, except maybe Costco. Walmart also controls retail supply lines throughout the country, but not Costco's supply lines. I would never take the PR word of a corporation that has made big corporate donations to Republicans for decades, and whose profits could still be made during times of social tensions and instabilities.

My lifelong boycott of Walmart stands.

dameatball

(7,393 posts)
14. My take? There are virtually zero RWers that do not have guns already. "Rioters" are the
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 06:48 PM
Oct 2020

underlying message here. Fine with me to do whatever little they do, but not applauding them.

FelineOverlord

(3,571 posts)
26. Walmart Pulls Guns, Ammo Displays in U.S. Stores, Citing Civil Unrest
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:24 PM
Oct 2020

I am so glad I live in a state where these are not sold in Walmarts. Not that there are very many Walmarts here anyway.

Ford_Prefect

(7,870 posts)
28. If they are only taking them off display then they are still somewhere in-store . Anyone with a will
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:28 PM
Oct 2020

and a pickup can knock a hole through a cinder-block wall. Walmart is as cheap as they come when doing store design, fire and safety.

As noted by several posts above this seems more about appearances than actual public safety.

If Walmart really wants to send a message they would completely remove the guns, ammo and hunting gear to a genuinely safe location until after Thanksgiving. Same for Cabela's, Sportsman's Warehouse and all the other hunter wannabe outlets. Likewise the national gun and ammo producers could institute a freeze on supplies and spare parts for 30 days.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
32. They don't sell handguns or military-style semiautomatics.
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 07:51 PM
Oct 2020

What in the world is wrong with them selling (for instance) a Marllin .30-30 lever action deer rifle or a .22 target rifle?

warmfeet

(3,321 posts)
59. I own seven guns. Not all the guns in my family, not by a long shot. Get the pun?
Sun Nov 1, 2020, 09:14 PM
Nov 2020

You are telling me what think regarding gun ownership?

Shove off mate.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
60. I simply asked you a question. What do you find objectionable about Walmart selling lever action
Mon Nov 2, 2020, 02:59 PM
Nov 2020

rifles and .22's?

wnylib

(21,331 posts)
41. On a lighter note, back in the 1980's,
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 08:36 PM
Oct 2020

I worked in a mall, directly across from a bank, in a small city in a rural area of PA where hunting was a common pasttime. Nearly all the locals had hunting rifles.

Both the bank and the office I worked in had wide open entry ways, so I had a clear view of what happened.

A grizzled looking older local guy strolled into the bank wearing hunting clothes, with his rifle slung over his shoulder. Customers in line looked at him and at each other nervously. The manager went over to him and they talked briefly. The guy left and came back a few moments later without the rifle. The manager told me later that the guy had not wanted to leave his new rifle in his truck and had not thought about how it looked to walk into a bank openly armed. He told the manager, "Hell, I'm just goin' huntin'. You know I ain't gonna rob ya."

Nitram

(22,759 posts)
50. This is huuuuge! Walmart is Flyover Central. they are red, white, and blue! If they are not
Thu Oct 29, 2020, 10:08 PM
Oct 2020

displaying guns for purchase, it is right of center support for gun control.

pecosbob

(7,533 posts)
52. Sounds to me like they're afraid of protesters arming themselves by looting the stores
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 02:00 AM
Oct 2020

They should be afraid.

 

Dial H For Hero

(2,971 posts)
57. update: Walmart to return firearms to the sales floor today
Fri Oct 30, 2020, 05:40 PM
Oct 2020

(full headline: Walmart to return firearms to the sales floor today as social unrest remains 'geographically isolated)

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/walmart-to-return-firearms-to-sales-floor-183046047.html

Walmart will begin returning firearms and ammunition to the sales floor beginning Friday after they were temporarily removed amid social unrest, according to a statement from the retailer.

“After civil unrest earlier this week resulted in damage to several of our stores, consistent with actions we took over the summer, we asked stores to move firearms and ammunition from the sales floor to a secure location in the back of the store in an abundance of caution. As the current incidents have remained geographically isolated, we have made the decision to begin returning these products to the sales floor today,” the company said in an emailed statement.

Walmart (WMT), the world’s largest retailer, removed firearms and ammunition from sales floors this week following protests over the police killing of Walter Wallace Jr.

The retailer made a similar decision to pull firearms and ammunition back in June. While firearms and ammunition were not available on the sales floor, they could still be purchased.

Walmart, which operates more than 4,700 stores in the U.S., sells firearms at approximately half of those locations.

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