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appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:23 AM Nov 2020

Trump Backers Converge On Vote Centers In Michigan, Arizona

Source: AP News

1 hr ago. Dozens of angry supporters of President Donald Trump converged on vote-counting centers in Detroit and Phoenix as the returns went against him Wednesday in the two key states, while thousands of anti- Trump protesters demanding a complete tally of the ballots in the still-undecided election took to the streets in cities across the U.S.

"Stop the count!" the Trump supporters chanted in Detroit. "Stop the steal!" they said in Phoenix.

The protests came as the president insisted without evidence that there were major problems with the voting and the ballot counting, especially with mail-in votes, and as Republicans filed suit in various states over the election.

Wearing Trump gear, the Phoenix protesters filled much of the parking lot at the Maricopa County election center, and members of the crowd chanted, "Fox News sucks!" in anger over the network declaring Joe Biden the winner in Arizona.

Rep. Paul Gosar, an Arizona Republican and staunch Trump supporter, joined the crowd, declaring: "We're not going to let this election be stolen. Period." However, observers from both major political parties were inside the election center as ballots were processed and counted, and the procedure was live-streamed online at all times.

Read more: https://apnews.com/article/election-2020-donald-trump-race-and-ethnicity-new-york-washington-0b5711044a940703045953fe7833d6aa



Several sheriff's deputies blocked the entrance to the building. And the vote-counting went on into the night, Maricopa AZ County Elections Department spokeswoman Megan Gilbertson said.



- People wanting to be election challengers yell as they look through the windows of the central counting board as police were helping to keep additional challengers from entering due to overcrowding, Wed., Nov. 4, 2020, in Detroit.










- Trump Supporters Chant 'Stop the Count' Outside Detroit, Michigan TCF Center, Nov. 4, 2020.
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Trump Backers Converge On Vote Centers In Michigan, Arizona (Original Post) appalachiablue Nov 2020 OP
Post removed Post removed Nov 2020 #1
Trump loves PUTIN yuiyoshida Nov 2020 #18
I invite Rebl2 Nov 2020 #49
"Rep. Paul Gosar . . . " ucrdem Nov 2020 #2
Yes, Florida 2000 was a harbinger for things to come. ananda Nov 2020 #26
kerry edweards too. AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #42
That's right! ananda Nov 2020 #53
gosar is a dumbass Kali Nov 2020 #46
They can't stop democracy. Bluepinky Nov 2020 #3
Ignorance of civics, governance has grown fast in 30 yrs. appalachiablue Nov 2020 #4
Yes, plus they're brainwashed from watching Fox "News". Bluepinky Nov 2020 #6
I had to define "democracy" to someone. zanana1 Nov 2020 #17
when i mention the constitution, they go which one . i light up and say the one that is framed AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #44
Didn't mandatory civics education stop not fooled Nov 2020 #48
HATE and GREED are the fuels they run on. not_the_one Nov 2020 #59
Good for you. NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #37
i had same convos with them and not in a combative situation. AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #43
So much for the Republican's mantra of state's rights. hadEnuf Nov 2020 #51
Good gawd. Brooks Brothers they ain't! yellowcanine Nov 2020 #5
Dead, lifeless eyes, listening to the voices in their heads. Bluepinky Nov 2020 #7
That sounds like a rock song.. ananda Nov 2020 #8
The one woman with her Trump sticker on her phone makes her look so official rpannier Nov 2020 #12
Zombies durablend Nov 2020 #13
or the stephen king movie named riverbendviewgal Nov 2020 #20
The blonde in the front row looks like her husband yuiyoshida Nov 2020 #19
They look like zombies. orangecrush Nov 2020 #23
This message was self-deleted by its author orangecrush Nov 2020 #24
Haven't I seen this before? Botany Nov 2020 #22
Yes! This is the one I was going to search for too. Glad you put it up there. NoRoadUntravelled Nov 2020 #38
Is there a term.... moose65 Nov 2020 #28
The word you're looking for is 'Karenvan' I think durablend Nov 2020 #32
Thread winner 👆 flibbitygiblets Nov 2020 #55
A fuckitudinous flock. RobertDevereaux Nov 2020 #36
HAHAHAHA johnnyfins Nov 2020 #40
i was thinking of the same thing when i saw your post , a group of spoild brats . AllaN01Bear Nov 2020 #45
The Trumpie apocalyse Danascot Nov 2020 #30
I have been looking for that other photo of people behind the glass; that time Maraya1969 Nov 2020 #56
I'm shocked someone wearing a face shield is a Trumper Polybius Nov 2020 #57
Ignorant pawns & flat out trying to cheat. Basic civics should start... WePurrsevere Nov 2020 #9
Under Devos mdbl Nov 2020 #10
Well, hopefully she'll be gone very soon... WePurrsevere Nov 2020 #16
Cancel fox and their IQs would go back above 70. sigpooie Nov 2020 #15
AW, gotta give the poor kids abreak! 3825-87867 Nov 2020 #11
Yes, "we need to try to understand their feelings" durablend Nov 2020 #14
Eerie colsohlibgal Nov 2020 #21
Goons who hate democracy and hate the USA Yeehah Nov 2020 #25
It's a cult, and their vote was a cult vote bucolic_frolic Nov 2020 #27
What. No pepper spray ? rickford66 Nov 2020 #29
According to Trump's fascist decrees they should all be tear gassed and beaten by the cops. hadEnuf Nov 2020 #54
Maricopa preserves ballot images! ananda Nov 2020 #31
How is counting everyone's vote stealing an election? StaunchDemocrat1957 Nov 2020 #33
Quick answer: Because everyone's vote isn't a vote for Trump. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #52
Hmmmmm durablend Nov 2020 #34
If that was BLM march those cops would be egging them on to do something....... Bengus81 Nov 2020 #35
Is that the Zombie Apocalypse we've been warned about or the prelude to The Rapture? Ford_Prefect Nov 2020 #39
How much PROOF do we need? bluestarone Nov 2020 #41
Trumpism Professional protestors NCjack Nov 2020 #47
LEAs had better be prepared for the next step: violence and destruction of ballots. Eyeball_Kid Nov 2020 #50
Stop the count? Sapient Donkey Nov 2020 #58
DEMs with covid-19, go to these Vote Centers where Repuke protestors are. NCjack Nov 2020 #60
IT NEEDS TO BE SAID THAT reps from BOTH PARTIES Kashkakat v.2.0 Nov 2020 #61
That's twenty years of progress for you DFW Nov 2020 #62
That's not how this works VA_Jill Nov 2020 #63
Man, these people Trigger Hippie Nov 2020 #64
So they are saying "stop the count" in states where Trump is behind? yellowcanine Nov 2020 #65

Response to appalachiablue (Original post)

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
18. Trump loves PUTIN
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:02 AM
Nov 2020

They love PUTIN, and would rather be REAL RUSSIANS than true Americans. That tells you a lot.

Rebl2

(13,481 posts)
49. I invite
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:21 AM
Nov 2020

them to leave the USA, disavow their US citizenship and go live in Russia if they want to live under Putin rule.

ucrdem

(15,512 posts)
2. "Rep. Paul Gosar . . . "
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:34 AM
Nov 2020

This guy knows better and I suspect the rest are equally not-so-uninformed. Bushler pulled this in 2000 and it worked. This is 2020 and it won't work. It is deeply cynical and dishonest, and marching orders come from the top. In fact I heard Cheeto send the bat signal last night. He's not as addled as all that and knows what he's telling them and now they're doing it.

Hope they're all arrested on Jan 21 including fat-bastard-in-chief.

ananda

(28,854 posts)
26. Yes, Florida 2000 was a harbinger for things to come.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:42 AM
Nov 2020

Let's make Arizona 2020 the harbinger for a restoration
of democracy and voting rights.

ananda

(28,854 posts)
53. That's right!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:36 AM
Nov 2020

And of course, 2016, rigged by the Russians.

But this one is different. I keep thinking
they tried, but were somehow incompetent.

Am I wrong?

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
3. They can't stop democracy.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:19 AM
Nov 2020

One of my Trump-supporting work colleagues was upset yesterday because the votes were still being counted. She was muttering about ballots with no signatures and arriving 10 days after Election Day. She was upset that each state does their voting and counting differently.
I had to explain to her that we live in a democracy and every vote needs to be counted, and that each state has always had its own election regulations. I told her it’s not true that ballots without signatures are counted, or that votes that come in 10 days after the election are counted. When she continued to complain, I asked her to talk about it outside of the office. I was pissed.

appalachiablue

(41,113 posts)
4. Ignorance of civics, governance has grown fast in 30 yrs.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:30 AM
Nov 2020

These people are angry and worked up, I think some get a high from it- adrenaline or endorphins.

Bluepinky

(2,268 posts)
6. Yes, plus they're brainwashed from watching Fox "News".
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 06:55 AM
Nov 2020

But you’re right, it’s also a basic lack of civics education. When I was in high school (70’s), we took civics as a class; I don’t think they do this anymore. Many of the Trumpers are ignorant, many are batshit crazy and others get off on “owning” the liberals. I’m sick of all of them.

zanana1

(6,106 posts)
17. I had to define "democracy" to someone.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:45 AM
Nov 2020

I live in a "62 and over" apartment complex. I was in the common room minding my own business when I heard a woman in the lounge say "I don't care about his personality, he's done a lot for this country". I'm a patient person who tries to get along with everyone here because, after all, I live here with them. When she started in on Biden, I realized I had to get out of there and back to my apartment before I lost it. I almost made it. As she went on and on, I blurted out "He's ruining our democracy". She looked at me and said "I don't care about that". I freaked out and said, in a loud voice," DEMOCRACY "? She said "What does that mean, anyway? What is "democracy"? She wasn't an immigrant. She was born and raised in this country. I felt like a Civics teacher when I had to explain it to her. Afterward, she said "I still don't care". WTF?

AllaN01Bear

(18,105 posts)
44. when i mention the constitution, they go which one . i light up and say the one that is framed
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:26 AM
Nov 2020

and under glass at d.c. good show . i blame fox noize, sinclair radio and most of the general m$n for this nonsense. people living outside of our country know more than we do.. hem . i keep a pocket version of the constitution w me at all times .

not fooled

(5,801 posts)
48. Didn't mandatory civics education stop
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:05 AM
Nov 2020

under evil old bastard raygun? I'm pretty sure Bill Bennett, noted education-hating Secretary of Education under raygun, killed it.

They don't want people understanding how democracy or government work. And now, predictably, people don't, and look where we are.

NoRoadUntravelled

(2,626 posts)
37. Good for you.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:00 AM
Nov 2020

Once misinformation has been placed in their head by the orange one, they really can't see things any other way. No matter how many other sources they hear facts from they continue to cling to the lies.

riverbendviewgal

(4,252 posts)
20. or the stephen king movie named
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:22 AM
Nov 2020

Cell. It came out this year.

I just watched it last night and had to laugh how the scaries in it reminded me of Trumpers. And funny that a cell phone signal made them monsters.

yuiyoshida

(41,829 posts)
19. The blonde in the front row looks like her husband
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:07 AM
Nov 2020

beat her for suggesting to vote for Biden... WHO HAS MAKEUP Like that???

Response to yuiyoshida (Reply #19)

moose65

(3,166 posts)
28. Is there a term....
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:46 AM
Nov 2020

Is there a collective term for a group of Karens? A “gaggle”? “Flock” ?

How bout this? A “Karavan” of Karens?? 😆

johnnyfins

(815 posts)
40. HAHAHAHA
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:20 AM
Nov 2020

I was waiting for someone to notice. It HAS to be 2020, when the ""Brooks Brothers Riot" of 2000 has been replaced by three Karens. One with an official "Trump 2020 Vote Sheriff" phone case. What fucking country do I live in again? :/

AllaN01Bear

(18,105 posts)
45. i was thinking of the same thing when i saw your post , a group of spoild brats .
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:29 AM
Nov 2020

sore loosers. a gaggle of geese behave better than that . same with a rafter of turkeys or a raft of turtles .

Maraya1969

(22,474 posts)
56. I have been looking for that other photo of people behind the glass; that time
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:01 PM
Nov 2020

they were demanding that places up and that they didn't need to wear masks.

They had the same crazy looks. I can't find it!

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
9. Ignorant pawns & flat out trying to cheat. Basic civics should start...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:20 AM
Nov 2020

when kids first start to learn about American History and then be a mandatory class, right up there with basic math, English and science, that's needed in order to graduate in junior and/or senior high school.

This level of ignorance must be dealt with so current and future generations will know better. I keep running into way too many adults who simply haven't a clue.

WePurrsevere

(24,259 posts)
16. Well, hopefully she'll be gone very soon...
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:43 AM
Nov 2020

And a Biden appointee, who will actually know what they're doing, will turn things around. I'm sure that there's a way to fix this longterm. If anyone can find a solution to a major education problem, it's Democrats.

For now states can step in and add it to their requirements to graduate HS and colleges can start to include it as a mandatory entry requirement. I realise it would probably be blue states that start the ball rolling but as colleges jump in with it as an entry requirement I would think the red states will eventually be forced to follow.

sigpooie

(106 posts)
15. Cancel fox and their IQs would go back above 70.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:43 AM
Nov 2020

But this shows how bad we need shop classes again. I'm guessing here, but it looks like all the bars and chicken plucking line are closed since the employees are busy protesting.

3825-87867

(840 posts)
11. AW, gotta give the poor kids abreak!
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 07:24 AM
Nov 2020

After all, this is probably only the 2nd election the vast majority of them has voted in!
And they probably think that their single vote means they win automatically.
Hell. many probably just learned about this thing called "voting."
Damn the Constitution!
Damn those pesky Laws.
Full deeds ahead.

colsohlibgal

(5,275 posts)
21. Eerie
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:29 AM
Nov 2020

So reminiscent of the mobs pounding on the doors to stop the counting in Florida in 2000.

These people are brainless zombies.

Yeehah

(4,574 posts)
25. Goons who hate democracy and hate the USA
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:34 AM
Nov 2020

They want to install their tin pot dictator and make the USA a province of Russia.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
27. It's a cult, and their vote was a cult vote
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 08:43 AM
Nov 2020

Take Trump off the ballot and put him in a cage and it will be 2018 all over again.

hadEnuf

(2,183 posts)
54. According to Trump's fascist decrees they should all be tear gassed and beaten by the cops.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:38 AM
Nov 2020

I noticed that most of them are wearing masks. The pay must not be that good. (not that they will get paid by Trump anyway)

33. How is counting everyone's vote stealing an election?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:23 AM
Nov 2020

We had it stole in 2000 by the SCOTUS. I was angry for a very long time It was wrong! It will be wrong again if the SCOTUS gets involved again!

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
52. Quick answer: Because everyone's vote isn't a vote for Trump.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:32 AM
Nov 2020

If you vote for Biden, you're cheating.

Yeah, you're right. Trumpers aren't reasonable people at this time. They're quite frankly nuts.

LEAs in Az, PA, and NV ought to be heading to election centers en masse, because that's where the action will be. And it will get violent. The police chiefs and AGs in those states must be on their toes right now. If breaches of ballot security occur, their heads will be on the chopping block.

Bengus81

(6,931 posts)
35. If that was BLM march those cops would be egging them on to do something.......
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 09:47 AM
Nov 2020

Then they could bring out the tear gas and pepper spray and say how violent Democrats are. Trumpanzies nah....just let em yell and scream and pound on windows.

Ford_Prefect

(7,875 posts)
39. Is that the Zombie Apocalypse we've been warned about or the prelude to The Rapture?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:17 AM
Nov 2020

Did you know that Zombies could do arithmetic? I don't recall that as one of their strong suits.

bluestarone

(16,894 posts)
41. How much PROOF do we need?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 10:22 AM
Nov 2020

NO baton beating, NO Pepper gas, NO rubber bullets, NO police dogs!! I get the REAL picture do you???

Eyeball_Kid

(7,430 posts)
50. LEAs had better be prepared for the next step: violence and destruction of ballots.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 11:25 AM
Nov 2020

Trump is giving orders from the White House for his fans to disturb the counting. He can only see the short term effects and doesn't give a whit about the longer term consequences. But he never did.

Sapient Donkey

(1,568 posts)
58. Stop the count?
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 01:47 PM
Nov 2020

If they stopped the counting and assigned all the EC votes based on current counts, wouldn't be the Biden winner?

Oh you mean they only want to stop the count of ballots that might benefit Biden, but want to keep counting the ones that will go for Trump? That seems very democratic.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
60. DEMs with covid-19, go to these Vote Centers where Repuke protestors are.
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:31 PM
Nov 2020

Mix with them and engage them in conversation about the dangers of Covid-19.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
61. IT NEEDS TO BE SAID THAT reps from BOTH PARTIES
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 02:35 PM
Nov 2020

oversee election processes in state//county levels!!!!!

CANT HAVE MOB SCENES where voting and counting of votes is taking place!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

For obvious reasons.

These folks need to be arrested and sentenced to a remedial class in HIGH SCHOOL CIVICS>

DFW

(54,328 posts)
62. That's twenty years of progress for you
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 03:02 PM
Nov 2020

In 2000, it was the Brooks Brothers riot.

In 2020, it's the Crooks Brothers riot.

VA_Jill

(9,962 posts)
63. That's not how this works
Thu Nov 5, 2020, 05:17 PM
Nov 2020

That's not how ANY of this works, you blooming idiots! Get back in your basements.

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