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Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:41 PM

Michigan, national GOP seek to delay certification of election results

Source: The Detroit News

The state and national Republican parties have asked the Board of State Canvassers to delay certification of the state's election results in a bid to investigate "anomalies and irregularities" alleged to have occurred in Michigan's Nov. 3 election.

Michigan Republican Party Chairwoman Laura Cox and Republican National Committee Chairwoman Ronna McDaniel asked the state to conduct a "full, transparent audit" before certification, noting other states like Georgia "have taken discretionary steps" in determining their results.

The Board of State Canvassers is scheduled to meet Monday to consider certification.

The request comes a day after Republican U.S. Senate candidate John James requested the same delay. James, a Farmington Hills business trails U.S. Sen. Gary Peters, D-Bloomfield Township, by more than 92,000 votes in unofficial results after the 83 counties turned in their certified results, a gain for Peters of 9,000 votes from the preliminary results.

Read more: https://www.detroitnews.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/11/21/state-national-gop-seek-delay-certification-election-results/6373717002/



An interesting fact regarding audits:

"...under state law (MCL 168.31a) audits can only be conducted after the State Canvassers certify the election."


So these people are calling for state law to be ignored and in only one County! Good luck with that.


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Reply Michigan, national GOP seek to delay certification of election results (Original post)
George II Nov 21 OP
catbyte Nov 21 #1
George II Nov 21 #4
Cha Nov 21 #37
cheezmaka Nov 21 #43
Cha Nov 21 #44
cheezmaka Nov 21 #45
underpants Nov 21 #2
Bernardo de La Paz Nov 21 #3
underpants Nov 21 #7
Polybius Nov 21 #11
NCDem47 Nov 21 #13
efhmc Nov 21 #17
Sherman A1 Nov 21 #30
underpants Nov 21 #34
iluvtennis Nov 21 #35
orangecrush Nov 21 #40
dalton99a Nov 21 #5
bluestarone Nov 21 #6
NCDem47 Nov 21 #8
mindem Nov 21 #10
Thekaspervote Nov 21 #18
ret5hd Nov 21 #36
Happy Hoosier Nov 21 #28
Iliyah Nov 21 #9
bluestarone Nov 21 #12
Afromania Nov 21 #14
DownriverDem Nov 21 #15
Ford_Prefect Nov 21 #16
Thekaspervote Nov 21 #20
Ford_Prefect Nov 21 #27
geralmar Nov 21 #39
Ford_Prefect Nov 21 #42
KatyBR Nov 21 #19
lucca18 Nov 21 #24
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Nov 21 #21
William769 Nov 21 #22
LastLiberal in PalmSprings Nov 21 #23
muntrv Nov 21 #25
George II Nov 21 #26
birdographer Nov 21 #29
jalan48 Nov 21 #31
sandensea Nov 21 #32
BlueIdaho Nov 21 #33
TryLogic Nov 21 #38
ailsagirl Nov 21 #41
usajumpedtheshark Nov 22 #46

Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:46 PM

1. They know damed well that it's illegal. An audit can only happen after the vote is certified

according to Michigan law.

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Response to catbyte (Reply #1)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:48 PM

4. Yes, in fact I neglected to include a tweet stating just that. Another idiotic move by republicans.

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Response to George II (Reply #4)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:21 PM

37. Mahalo for the tweet from Jocelyn Benson!

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Response to Cha (Reply #37)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:44 PM

43. Jocelyn Benson don't play around...

That's why I voted for her....

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Response to cheezmaka (Reply #43)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 08:48 PM

44. Aloha cheezmaka.. look at you

right in the thick of History!

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Response to Cha (Reply #44)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 09:11 PM

45. Aloha Cha!

Yes!!!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:46 PM

2. Now does everyone see why they try so hard to suppress voting?

Itís simply not good for them and they know it.

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:47 PM

3. Strip away voter suppression & dirty tricks to see that USA is basically liberal & progressive. . nt

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Response to Bernardo de La Paz (Reply #3)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:49 PM

7. No doubt.

But down ballot, locally especially, they can still be scared and coerced.

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:53 PM

11. After Covid is controlled, mail-in ballots will never come back

They will make sure of that.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:59 PM

13. They're like the Borg in Star Trek

Using every opportunity to adapt to minimize future resistance.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:34 PM

17. Colorado has had them for 10 years.

In Texas over 65 and disabled can vote that way.

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Response to Polybius (Reply #11)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:33 PM

30. I disagree

I believe they are here to stay. Folks like to do things the easy way and it is easy to vote by mail.

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Response to Sherman A1 (Reply #30)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:42 PM

34. I agree with your disagreement

Especially in the burbs people like the convenience.

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:43 PM

35. + agree underpants. nt

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Response to underpants (Reply #2)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:41 PM

40. Truth

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:48 PM

5. Republicans can only win by lying, cheating, and stealing.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:48 PM

6. Is this ANOTHER way to get it to the SC?

That's what i'm thinking here.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:50 PM

8. I thought the same thing.

They need a lower court case (to rule against them???) so they can appeal to SC?

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:53 PM

10. I've been thinking the same thing.

drumph has always been a little too out in the open about having the supreme court deciding the election. The whole repuke push to stack the courts is all about forcing their agenda even if they are in the minority.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:35 PM

18. What if it is? SCOTUS isn't going to rule on this...Neil Katyal President Obama's solicitor gen

says it would be highly doubtful they would even take the case

No laws have been broken, thereís no fraud, they have no proof...

Conservative or not, they arenít wanting to be made fools of!

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #18)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:12 PM

36. Bush v. Gore?

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #6)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:28 PM

28. I doubt it. We'll see.

The GOP is demanding a remedy not provided for in state law without providing anything more that speculation and innuendo to back up that demand. I canít see how this rises to a federal case. But this is 2020.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:50 PM

9. Fed up with this shit . .

Enough.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 12:56 PM

12. Feel the same here. Depressing for sure. BUT that's their game plan.

I have faith that it's all for their base. Joe's GOT THIS!! ( I really believe this)

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #9)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:09 PM

14. Yea...... yea..... *nods w/tired and disgusted sigh

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 01:25 PM

15. Need to read this too.

Even if Trump were to change the Michigan lawmakersí minds on Friday, the Legislature canít amend state law by fiat. A constitutional amendment has to be itself ratified by popular vote, and if itís introduced in the Legislature, it first has to pass both houses by supermajority margins. The GOP possesses only a bare legislative majority in either house. Amendments to the election code, meanwhile, are subject to veto by the governor. In Michigan, thatís Democrat Gretchen Whitmer, a committed Trump antagonist who would inevitably veto any legislative attempt at the wholesale disenfranchisement of her constituents. Without supermajorities, Republican legislators alone are impotent to override her veto. From Raw Story

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:05 PM

16. IMO They are laying the groundwork to declare they are the victims of a stolen election.

To lock in the hatred and fear for another election cycle.

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Response to Ford_Prefect (Reply #16)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:37 PM

20. Where's their proof?? Come on..

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Response to Thekaspervote (Reply #20)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:26 PM

27. Yes I know they have no proof. They are appealing to the True Believers in Trump's Death Cult GOP.

The GOP voters only need to hear that it is so from those who feed them the lies as Gospel. They have no capacity to accept facts that don't agree with their Dogma. That is how a cult works.
The point of the exercise is not to establish Trump as the actual winner by the process. It is to establish in the minds of the GOP voters that they were robbed and that the new president and government are lies designed to cheat them of whatever they imagine to be their right and due. They've been programmed for decades to see this as the only outcome if Democrats win. They don't see how their local or state resources are provided by that government. They completely misunderstand how Social Security, National Parks, or other federal programs work and have no idea how such institutions came to exist.

On that foundation the GOP leadership can expect to drive their voters to support any cause or policy, or resist the same. It will be an un-civil war for the next 2 and 4 year election cycle and probably beyond. That is why the GOP at any level has refused to accept the election results. That is why this Kabuki Theater continues.

When the entire GOP senate refused to accept testimony or evidence during the Impeachment it said it all. The House GOP did the same and I don't want to hear they are afraid of their voters. It isn't true to the degree we have been told. What they all see is a path to dominate government. The incredible greed behind this is stunning when you see it face to face, as I see it repeated among our county commissioners every week. The public are inconvenient to their version of progress and so are treated as small children who shouldn't question adults.

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Response to geralmar (Reply #39)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 07:30 PM

42. Yes It would. But it goes much better to have a Sacrificial Martyr for the crowd to identify with.

When he is gone they can call his suffering retribution from those nasty Dems. Anything to amp up the sense of victim-hood and the melodrama which empowers those sad damaged white "Christians."

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:36 PM

19. Election law experts tell Michigan Board of Canvassers to certify election

Same details here.

Election law experts and civil rights advocates called on the Michigan Board of Canvassers to certify election results during an online press conference Friday, saying the canvassers' role is largely a technical one.

"Their duties are ministerial and they must act," John Pirich, an election law attorney who teaches at the Michigan State University College of Law, said during the press conference hosted by the Michigan ACLU. "It's so clear under the law what they have to do."...

Also on Friday, the staff of the Michigan Board of Canvassers released a report recommending that the 4-member board certify the election results, saying that the allegations of voting irregularities affecting results was not accurate.

Rebutting Trump's allegations of fraud in Detroit, the report said the city of Detroit had fewer problems with out-of-balance precincts this November election than in the August primary and the 2016 November general election. Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan made similar points earlier this week, saying the vote tally was 99.9% accurate.

[https://www.freep.com/story/news/local/michigan/2020/11/20/certify-election-results-michigan-board-of-canvassers/6355742002/|

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Response to KatyBR (Reply #19)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:05 PM

24. Thank you!

Enough is enough with the republicans.
They are just like trump!

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:37 PM

21. These idiots clearly have no shame

To the rest of us they look like fucking morons.

They better show proof of a lot of irregularities if they're going to override a 150,000 vote difference.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 02:42 PM

22. Will this madness ever end?

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:00 PM

23. What is the Republican end game?

They aren't going to flip any states to Trump. The inauguration is January 20th, no matter what they do. Voters will not allow a coup -- the threat of massive protest against the people who certify the vote should deter any thoughts of ignoring the will of the people. What is all this crap about, other than sucking more money from Trump's supporters?

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:12 PM

25. Another "there is voter fraud but we have no evidence of it"

arguement.

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Response to muntrv (Reply #25)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:12 PM

26. And only in one 90% African American county.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:31 PM

29. The whole world

knew there were nazis in the 40's. They knew what they were doing. And the whole world similarly knows there are republicans now, and they know what they are doing. Both will be remembered as evil and twisted.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:45 PM

31. Good thing we have a crack team of lawyers to stop this.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 03:57 PM

32. SORE LOSERMAN

Where have I heard that before?...

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 04:21 PM

33. Fuck that shit.

You lost, get over it.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:30 PM

38. Constiracy to obstruct a lawful constitutional process, function, or procedure

Treason - The crime of betraying one's country, especially by attempting to kill the sovereign or overthrow the government.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sat Nov 21, 2020, 06:45 PM

41. Redundant

"anomalies and irregularities" mean the same thing

What is the synonym of anomaly?

SYNONYMS. oddity, peculiarity, abnormality, irregularity, inconsistency, incongruity, deviation, aberration, quirk, freak, exception, departure, divergence, variation. outlier, edge case. rarity, eccentricity.

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Response to George II (Original post)

Sun Nov 22, 2020, 02:12 AM

46. a couple of trump-pets or maybe strump-pets

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