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Calista241

(5,586 posts)
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 10:57 PM Dec 2020

Cleveland Indians to change nickname the franchise has used for more then a century

Source: CBS Sports

Cleveland's Major League Baseball team has decided to change its nickname, moving away from the moniker it has employed for more than 100 years and that is considered insensitive to indigenous peoples, according to David Waldstein and Michael S. Schmidt of the New York Times. CBS Sports HQ's Jim Bowden has since confirmed Cleveland's plans. An announcement from the team could come as soon as this week, per the Times.

It's unclear how Cleveland will refer to itself during the upcoming season. One option is to keep the name for an additional year before then transitioning to a new identity; another is to go the route of the National Football League's Washington franchise, which dropped its own offensive nickname in July. The club has since been known as the Washington Football Team. Cleveland would, presumably, be called the Cleveland Baseball Team until a new nickname could be settled upon.

Cleveland's decision comes more than two years after it started to distance itself from the "Chief Wahoo" logo. Back in July, when the Washington Football Team announced its altered identity, Cleveland announced it would investigate the "best path forward" with regards to the team name. Subsequently, our Dayn Perry offered several replacement options, including the ever-popular "Spiders," as well as the "Rockers," the "Crows," and "Dobys," named after Hall of Famer Larry Doby, who was the American League's first Black player.

Cleveland's franchise has had three other identities during its existence: the Naps (after Nap Lajoie), the Bronchos, and the Blues. Of those, the Naps is the only name that lasted beyond a single season.

Read more: https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/cleveland-indians-to-change-nickname-the-franchise-has-used-for-more-then-a-century/

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Cleveland Indians to change nickname the franchise has used for more then a century (Original Post) Calista241 Dec 2020 OP
Blast from the Past. From January 2018: mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 #1
Goes to show doing it piece-meal isn't the way to go. Calista241 Dec 2020 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author Polybius Dec 2020 #7
The Cleveland Baseball Team. Yavin4 Dec 2020 #3
What if a state has two teams? Polybius Dec 2020 #8
Los Angeles, CA Football Team 001 and Los Angeles, CA Football Team 002 n/t Yavin4 Dec 2020 #10
Haha, no thanks Polybius Dec 2020 #11
I like it GusBob Dec 2020 #12
The Cleveland Passenger Pigeons HubertHeaver Dec 2020 #4
Cleveland announced name change to "Montreal Expos" mahatmakanejeeves Dec 2020 #5
My opinion is that going to the generic Cleveland Baseball Team for a season PoindexterOglethorpe Dec 2020 #6
Washington Cherry Blossoms..... HUAJIAO Dec 2020 #30
Can't say that I support this Polybius Dec 2020 #9
Has nothing to do with the Democratic Party RandiFan1290 Dec 2020 #22
Of course it didn't Polybius Dec 2020 #23
Agree on this point. Calista241 Dec 2020 #24
trump lost RandiFan1290 Dec 2020 #33
No by what he should have lost by, and Democrats everywhere else underpreformed Polybius Dec 2020 #34
I'll call them The Steamers until they get a new name. LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #13
Any logo ideas for the Cleveland Steamers? NBachers Dec 2020 #16
Yeah, but... LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #27
An ironing board HUAJIAO Dec 2020 #31
Just call the team "Cleveland". nt Progressive Jones Dec 2020 #14
Reminds me of a Jay Leno joke in one of his monologues. generalbetrayus Dec 2020 #17
Name them after what Cleveland is famous for! Archae Dec 2020 #15
I'm cool with that, but it will be shortened to Cleveland Rocks before the ink dries Brother Buzz Dec 2020 #18
I like Rockers. Who knows, that name may attract more fans. rickyhall Dec 2020 #19
I like that!!! And Ian Hunter already wrote their anthem! CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #25
I got to thinking of the movie Major League and have some ideas... maddogesq Dec 2020 #32
One solution: drop the name "Cleveland" It was mis-spelled from Cleaveland, anyway. JustABozoOnThisBus Dec 2020 #20
Is it true they chose The Maharajas? Kablooie Dec 2020 #21
If "Indians" was their nickname, what was their actual official name? CaptainTruth Dec 2020 #26
The article has it a bit mixed up. LudwigPastorius Dec 2020 #28
Why not follow the lead of MiLB and call themselves the Cleveland River Rats,,, HUAJIAO Dec 2020 #29
I can see a great Return of the Spiders ad campaign JCMach1 Dec 2020 #35
In the Ivy League, Dartmouth changed its name from Indians to Big Green. CTyankee Dec 2020 #36

mahatmakanejeeves

(57,319 posts)
1. Blast from the Past. From January 2018:
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:01 PM
Dec 2020

Mon Jan 29, 2018: Indians removing Chief Wahoo logo from game uniforms in 2019

Indians removing Chief Wahoo logo from game uniforms in 2019

By TOM WITHERS
26 minutes ago

CLEVELAND (AP) Divisive and hotly debated, the Chief Wahoo logo is being removed from the Cleveland Indians uniform next year.

The polarizing mascot is coming off the teams jersey sleeves and caps starting in the 2019 season, a move that will end Chief Wahoos presence on the field but may not completely silence those who deem it racist.

The Associated Press was informed of the decision before an official announcement was planned for Monday by Major League Baseball.

After lengthy discussions between team owner Paul Dolan and MLB Commissioner Rob Manfred, the Indians are taking the extraordinary step of shelving the big-toothed, smiling, red-faced caricature, which has been used in used in various expressions by the team since 1947.

{snip}

Calista241

(5,586 posts)
2. Goes to show doing it piece-meal isn't the way to go.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:09 PM
Dec 2020

Change your team mascot in 2019.
Change your team name in 2020.

Response to Calista241 (Reply #2)

Yavin4

(35,421 posts)
3. The Cleveland Baseball Team.
Sun Dec 13, 2020, 11:10 PM
Dec 2020

All teams should change their names to a generic one.

The six states in the North East quadrant of the United States Football Team.

GusBob

(7,286 posts)
12. I like it
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 01:03 AM
Dec 2020

I have gotten used to the name of Washington in football this season

I think it sounds neat

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,816 posts)
6. My opinion is that going to the generic Cleveland Baseball Team for a season
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:02 AM
Dec 2020

is a good idea. It really removes the connection to the previous name.

At the beginning of this football season I thought it was weird that Washington hadn't come up with a new name, but going generic has worked very well. There's now a separation from the old name, and whatever they come up with should be good. I'm voting for The Washington Azaleas, myself, but no one has consulted me, alas.

Heck, moving a sports franchise from one city where its name made sense, to one where it doesn't -- New Orleans Jazz, Utah Jazz come immediately to mind -- would be solved if all sports were just the name of the city. As it is, because I'm not much of a fan, I can often be very confused as to what city a particular team plays in.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
30. Washington Cherry Blossoms.....
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:21 PM
Dec 2020

Washington Monument

The DC ACs..

The Potomac River

The Pentagon

oh god, I better quit...

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
9. Can't say that I support this
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:36 AM
Dec 2020

I'm sorry, I don't want to be that guy, but I believe all the changing of team names and product names/images killed us locally in 2020. I don't want a flame war, but it's my honest opinion.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
23. Of course it didn't
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 10:13 AM
Dec 2020

But voters believed otherwise and linked PC 2020 changes with "libruls" and we got the shaft.

Polybius

(15,336 posts)
34. No by what he should have lost by, and Democrats everywhere else underpreformed
Tue Dec 15, 2020, 01:44 PM
Dec 2020

The above poster agrees, you should too. Instead you keep trying to be cute. Just say you disagree and move on.

generalbetrayus

(507 posts)
17. Reminds me of a Jay Leno joke in one of his monologues.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:58 AM
Dec 2020

As best as I can remember it: "The Washington Bullets basketball team has decided to change its name because of its connotations of violence. What are they going to call it instead of Washington?

Archae

(46,301 posts)
15. Name them after what Cleveland is famous for!
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:20 AM
Dec 2020

Umm...(scratches head)...errr...eh...what IS Cleveland famous for?

Oh yeah!

Cleveland Rockers!
(Rock and Roll Hall Of Fame is in Cleveland.)

Brother Buzz

(36,386 posts)
18. I'm cool with that, but it will be shortened to Cleveland Rocks before the ink dries
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 03:47 AM
Dec 2020

And Drew Carey will totally throw out the first pitch...again!

maddogesq

(1,245 posts)
32. I got to thinking of the movie Major League and have some ideas...
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:44 PM
Dec 2020

The Wild Things
The Justabitoutsiders
The Jobus

Sorry, couldn't resist.


JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,325 posts)
20. One solution: drop the name "Cleveland" It was mis-spelled from Cleaveland, anyway.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 06:47 AM
Dec 2020

Erie Indigenous? North Coast Natives?

Gen Cleaveland stole the land from the natives, giving them trinkets and liquor to convince them to leave.

Honor the original people - lose "Cleveland".

Next up: Why should a Detroit baseball team be named after an endangered species?

LudwigPastorius

(9,110 posts)
28. The article has it a bit mixed up.
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 12:09 PM
Dec 2020

The team was previously the "Napoleons". Local sportswriters were selected to rename the "Naps" in 1915.

They came up with "Indians", which used to be a nickname for the by-then-defunct Cleveland Spiders team.

HUAJIAO

(2,379 posts)
29. Why not follow the lead of MiLB and call themselves the Cleveland River Rats,,,
Mon Dec 14, 2020, 02:15 PM
Dec 2020

or Cleveland Lake Monsters, or....

Lakeside Interlopers, or....

CTyankee

(63,892 posts)
36. In the Ivy League, Dartmouth changed its name from Indians to Big Green.
Wed Dec 16, 2020, 11:39 AM
Dec 2020

I remember the old days when some student would dress up like an Indian and do a few war whoops during halftime activities. I think Dartmouth College was founded with a commitment to educating native Americans (with what I don't know but I suspect religion played a role).

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