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demmiblue

(36,823 posts)
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 10:00 PM Dec 2020

House conservatives strategize with Trump and Pence in push to challenge Biden's win

Source: CNN

(CNN)Alabama GOP Rep. Mo Brooks and fellow House conservatives met privately on Monday with President Donald Trump and Vice President Mike Pence as the lawmakers prepared to mount a long-shot bid in January to overturn the Electoral College results that made Joe Biden the official winner of the election.

The discussion focused on Trump's baseless claims and conspiracies that the election was stolen from him, participants said, and lawmakers emerged confident that there were would be a contingent of House and Senate Republicans who would join the effort and prompt a marathon debate on the floor on January 6 that would spill into January 7.

Pence's involvement in the meeting is significant because he will preside over the joint session of Congress that would count the electoral votes that day. Brooks said that Pence attended "different parts" of the meeting.

"I believe we have multiple senators and the question is not if but how many," Brooks said, something that would defy the wishes of Senate Republican leaders who are eager to move on and urging senators not to participate since doing so could force them to cast a politically toxic vote against Trump.

Read more: https://www.cnn.com/2020/12/21/politics/house-conservatives-trump-meeting/index.html




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House conservatives strategize with Trump and Pence in push to challenge Biden's win (Original Post) demmiblue Dec 2020 OP
Traitors. madaboutharry Dec 2020 #1
"The discussion focused on Trump's baseless claims" hibbing Dec 2020 #2
We can thank the Hannitys and Limabughs of the world for that. Initech Dec 2020 #11
Strategize? More like toddlers meet to throw tantrums! Thekaspervote Dec 2020 #3
its a delaying tactic that will go nowhere but those who perpetuate it must be punished, severely. yaesu Dec 2020 #4
Those wack-jobs aren't conservatives rlexx Dec 2020 #5
This is a game getting old Deuxcents Dec 2020 #6
I'm guessing that Pence played the strong, silent type... brooklynite Dec 2020 #7
It's just theater. Their only intent is to feed the right-wing propaganda machine William Seger Dec 2020 #8
And, they all love the face time in front of the cameras. Marie Marie Dec 2020 #13
Quit calling them conservatives. They are traitors. niyad Dec 2020 #9
AGREE, except they are F***ing TRAITORS! 42bambi Dec 2020 #10
You are absolutely correct. niyad Dec 2020 #12
I like calling them fascists because that also explains their sedition William Seger Dec 2020 #14
F'n fascists! niyad Dec 2020 #15
GOP...believe they have a senator's support for challenges to six states... Septua Dec 2020 #16
Tuberville said for sure he is obamanut2012 Dec 2020 #23
Recent Quote by James Carville... Septua Dec 2020 #28
A few questions lordsummerisle Dec 2020 #17
It's Constitutional... Septua Dec 2020 #22
The 'point' is... Septua Dec 2020 #25
they'd better hurry up... myohmy2 Dec 2020 #18
Losers! C Moon Dec 2020 #19
We know that its all about keeping the narrative alive LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #20
"Democrats and liberals" ehrnst Dec 2020 #24
Very interesting LiberalLovinLug Dec 2020 #26
take names! . . . and in the House, never, ever call on them for the next 4 years . . . OneBlueSky Dec 2020 #21
Yeah, that sounds real "conservative". marybourg Dec 2020 #27

hibbing

(10,095 posts)
2. "The discussion focused on Trump's baseless claims"
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 10:03 PM
Dec 2020

In a civil society these people would be held accountable, instead they get reelected.


Peace

Initech

(100,041 posts)
11. We can thank the Hannitys and Limabughs of the world for that.
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 11:39 PM
Dec 2020

Brainwashing the masses into believing that evil liberal boogeymen are going to take away your (pick one: Guns, Jesus, land, property, daughters, heterosexuality, freedoms, bank accounts) every day and night. Ugh I hate them so much.

Thekaspervote

(32,709 posts)
3. Strategize? More like toddlers meet to throw tantrums!
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 10:08 PM
Dec 2020

There is NOT a single thing they can do to change the outcome and they know it

The role pence plays is strictly ceremonial, he has no power to change anything. So he can just say no, I won’t count the votes and it ends..laughable. Like so many other norms these assholes have broken this is one where if he doesn’t want to count votes, I’m sure someone else will

Deuxcents

(16,087 posts)
6. This is a game getting old
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 10:33 PM
Dec 2020

But.. we should not shrug it off.. I agree..they need to be held accountable. No mercy.

brooklynite

(94,360 posts)
7. I'm guessing that Pence played the strong, silent type...
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 10:39 PM
Dec 2020

There's nothing he can procedurally do to change the result of the House and Senate votes.

William Seger

(10,775 posts)
8. It's just theater. Their only intent is to feed the right-wing propaganda machine
Mon Dec 21, 2020, 11:02 PM
Dec 2020

Their power depends on the alternate reality that the machine creates and maintains.

Septua

(2,252 posts)
16. GOP...believe they have a senator's support for challenges to six states...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:35 AM
Dec 2020

They believe they have a senator's support?

The f'n election is over...the swing state election officials confirmed the election processes were without fraud or irregularities, the Attorney General of the United States has confirmed the elections were without fraud or irregularities, some 60 lawsuits have been denied or dismissed, the electoral votes have been counted and Joe Biden declared President Elect...

What the hell is there to challenge? A bunch of fools planning challenges based on nothing more than the delusional rantings of another fool...it is beyond, insane.

Septua

(2,252 posts)
28. Recent Quote by James Carville...
Wed Dec 23, 2020, 12:43 AM
Dec 2020

"Tuberville is a fool."

A brand new Senator showing his ignorance and stupidity after 3 days service.

lordsummerisle

(4,651 posts)
17. A few questions
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:38 AM
Dec 2020

1) Why does Congress have to count the Electoral College votes? Didn't the EC already do that? Isn't that part of why the EC exists?

2) If nothing can be changed in this process, what's the point?

3) Why is there a three week or so gap between the EC tabulation and the approval by Congress?

4) If the founders had the Internet maybe they could have shaved a few days off of this schedule?

Septua

(2,252 posts)
22. It's Constitutional...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 10:31 AM
Dec 2020

..procedure for questions 1 & 3. With this particular Presidential declaration, there is no point beyond some self-serving GOP lawmakers trying to keep Trump happy. The time gap might have been a provision to allow for consideration and preparation of a legitimate challenge.

[link:https://apnews.com/article/congress-count-electoral-college-vote-5605532631a251ac8f902d1d1ca55428|

Septua

(2,252 posts)
25. The 'point' is...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 02:12 PM
Dec 2020

Last year, about 40% of U.S. household incomes was less than $50K and about half those were less than $25K.

The suckazz pricks with plans to challenge the electoral count are paid (don't earn) $174,000+ per year by the taxpayers.

myohmy2

(3,141 posts)
18. they'd better hurry up...
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 12:45 AM
Dec 2020

...we'll be changing the curtains and locks shortly...

...mark the calendar, grab the kids, call the neighbors and relatives, this ought to be fun...

...popcorn, lots of delicious buttered popcorn...

...and be careful, watch your teeth...

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
20. We know that its all about keeping the narrative alive
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 01:37 AM
Dec 2020

ELECTION FRAUD!!!! DEEP STATE!!!!! BIDEN CAN'T BE TRUSTED!!!!

They may even continue with these cases after Jan 20. If not to reverse the election, for the "principle of defending our great democracy!". Just to keep Biden's Presidency suspicious to half the country.
Red Hats loves them some red meat to chew on, don't matter if its "factual" or not. Facts are for p*****s. Its about not giving Democrats and liberals even 5 minutes to breathe and be happy.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,164 posts)
26. Very interesting
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 02:12 PM
Dec 2020

You don't agree with that distinction?

Just like there are Republicans who aren't conservatives. And conservatives that aren't Republicans.

There are Democrats who don't regard themselves liberals. And liberals who don't regard themselves as Democrats.
But they are all welcome in my big tent! I'm Canadian. And not a Democrat either. I support Democrats because they are the closest to my own liberal beliefs.

OneBlueSky

(18,536 posts)
21. take names! . . . and in the House, never, ever call on them for the next 4 years . . .
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 03:17 AM
Dec 2020

and if we manage to take the Senate with two wins in Georgia, same strategy should apply there . . . they're all guilty of sedition and treason by inciting the overthrow of the duly elected U.S. government . . .

fuck it . . . on second thought, lock 'em all up! . . . (I need a drink . . . or a doobie . . . or something . . .)

marybourg

(12,586 posts)
27. Yeah, that sounds real "conservative".
Tue Dec 22, 2020, 02:12 PM
Dec 2020

Doing something that’s never been done before. That, if successful, would throw the country into a constitutional crisis. Yup, that’s surely “conservative”.

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