HomeLatest ThreadsGreatest ThreadsForums & GroupsMy SubscriptionsMy Posts
DU Home » Latest Threads » Forums & Groups » Main » Latest Breaking News (Forum) » CPAC: Hyatt Hotels says s...

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 08:57 PM

CPAC: Hyatt Hotels says stage design resembling Nazi rune is 'abhorrent'

Source: The Guardian

The Hyatt Hotels Corporation called symbols of hate “abhorrent” on Sunday after the design of a stage at the right-wing Conservative Political Action Conference (CPAC) at one of its hotels drew comparisons to a Norse rune used by Nazis during the second world war

High-profile Republicans including former president Donald Trump were attending the four-day event in Orlando, Florida, as conflict raged between Trump allies and establishment politicians trying to distance the party from him.

A photo of the CPAC stage went viral on social media on Saturday, with thousands of Twitter users sharing posts comparing its distinctive design to an othala rune, also known as an odal rune, one of many ancient European symbols that Nazis adopted to “reconstruct a mythic ‘Aryan’ past”, according to the Anti-Defamation League.

The ceiling of the conference room featured a lighting display in the same shape as the stage, according to Reuters photographs.

Read more: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2021/mar/01/cpac-2021-stage-design-nazi-sign-odal-othala-rune-hyatt-hotels-hate-symbol-abhorrent

53 replies, 6190 views

Reply to this thread

Back to top Alert abuse

Always highlight: 10 newest replies | Replies posted after I mark a forum
Replies to this discussion thread
Arrow 53 replies Author Time Post
Reply CPAC: Hyatt Hotels says stage design resembling Nazi rune is 'abhorrent' (Original post)
demmiblue Feb 2021 OP
50 Shades Of Blue Feb 2021 #1
OldBaldy1701E Feb 2021 #2
Blue Owl Feb 2021 #3
EndlessWire Feb 2021 #6
OAITW r.2.0 Feb 2021 #4
Hugh_Lebowski Feb 2021 #5
Hotler Mar 2021 #42
brush Feb 2021 #7
bamagal62 Feb 2021 #8
ancianita Feb 2021 #18
bamagal62 Feb 2021 #21
frazzled Feb 2021 #25
bamagal62 Feb 2021 #26
frazzled Mar 2021 #29
jmowreader Feb 2021 #9
not fooled Feb 2021 #12
jmowreader Feb 2021 #13
Tommymac Feb 2021 #10
Warpy Feb 2021 #11
Sgent Feb 2021 #14
taxi Feb 2021 #19
magicarpet Mar 2021 #28
taxi Mar 2021 #30
Warpy Mar 2021 #38
ibegurpard Feb 2021 #15
bamagal62 Feb 2021 #22
Stuart G Feb 2021 #16
ZonkerHarris Feb 2021 #17
bamagal62 Mar 2021 #35
BobTheSubgenius Feb 2021 #20
bamagal62 Feb 2021 #23
ExTex Feb 2021 #24
bamagal62 Mar 2021 #37
Politicub Mar 2021 #48
ExTex Mar 2021 #50
Bear Creek Mar 2021 #27
Rural_Progressive Mar 2021 #32
Bear Creek Mar 2021 #33
Bear Creek Mar 2021 #34
Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #47
burrowowl Mar 2021 #52
Jetheels Mar 2021 #31
The Wizard Mar 2021 #36
Midnight Writer Mar 2021 #39
twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #40
Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #41
IronLionZion Mar 2021 #43
twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #44
BlueWavePsych Mar 2021 #45
LineNew Reply .
dalton99a Mar 2021 #46
dchill Mar 2021 #49
electric_blue68 Mar 2021 #51
DFW Mar 2021 #53

Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:02 PM

1. And they'll shut that Nazi shit right down! Oh wait...

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:02 PM

2. Was it abhorrent when the check cleared? (n/t)

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:04 PM

3. In related news, Susan Collins was also concerned

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Blue Owl (Reply #3)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:29 PM

6. LOL! n/t

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:05 PM

4. My takeaway from CPAC

(1) Idol worship
(2) Nazi symbols embraced in the stage design
(3) A tone deaf rendering of the Star Spangled Banner
(4) A straw poll that punctured Trump's piñata
(5) Capped off with a forgettable Trump speech to end the embarrassment.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:21 PM

5. That is both gracious, and nuanced ...

Mine was:

Fuck all these Traitorous Nazi Fucks!

And

Wait, WHY are these assholes on TV, now?

That was pretty much it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to OAITW r.2.0 (Reply #4)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:47 AM

42. May I add; (6) Fake Christians nt

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:37 PM

7. They're going full-nazi, out in the open and think people won't catch it.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to brush (Reply #7)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 09:39 PM

8. Amazing that they allowed that.

Isn’t Hyatt Pritzker’s chain? I’m surprised they let that fly.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bamagal62 (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:11 PM

18. Yes. Very true.



The Human Rights Campaign has awarded the company 100% in the HRC Equality Index for more than ten years, last in 2020.

It is weird, though. Maybe a management mistake, even for Florida. Jay Pritzker wouldn't mind pocketing the American Conservative Union's money, but as an Illinoisan, I'm pretty sure he would definitely mind that stage.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ancianita (Reply #18)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:20 PM

21. I really like Gov. Pritzker.

I find this disappointing.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bamagal62 (Reply #8)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:56 PM

25. JB Pritzger has never worked at Hyatt

He was a lawyer and businessman in his own right. His father was involved with Hyatt, as president ... but he died at age 39, long ago.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to frazzled (Reply #25)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:58 PM

26. But, doesn't the family own the chain?

I actually love Pritzker and voted for him. I thought they owned Hyatt.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to bamagal62 (Reply #26)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:13 AM

29. Yes, of course

But he’s never been involved. I assume he is an heir, but I don’t see what that has to do with anything.

I don’t know what this whole thread is even about. The hotel rented space, a disgusting stage was brought in by the group. It doesn’t mean they condone CPAC, the stage, or anything else.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:03 PM

9. I suspect Hyatt did Nazi that before the stage went in, because the ACU didn't show them the plans

I also suspect Hyatt will inform the ACU, "if we do Nazi the plans of what you want to do before you build whatever it is you are building, and we do Nazi that you followed the plans you submitted to the letter, you will Nazi any of your money back when we evict your Nazi asses from our hotel."

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to jmowreader (Reply #9)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:25 PM

12. Yes, any image-conscious corporation

doing business from now on with the party of insurrectionists, Nazis, and other traitors needs to have them sign an extensive contract addressing all of the potential embarrassments that could arise, with commensurate penalties if violated.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to not fooled (Reply #12)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:28 PM

13. It will need a clause covering Unforeseen Atrocities

The big problem in dealing with the GQP is they can think of new indecencies before you can.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:14 PM

10. Boo Fucking Hoo.

Cry me a river of crocodile tears Hyatt.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:17 PM

11. Damage control

Likely they had no idea what that pattern was when the stage went in. They don't want to be blamed for it.

If they're smart, CPAC will have to find another venue next year. Perhaps by then the hospitality industry will be less desperate.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Warpy (Reply #11)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:51 PM

14. I'm Jewish

and I doubt if seeing that and not given a hint that I would get it. I *might* have recognized it as Norse, and then done some research since I know Norse is associated with white supremacy, but the stage is subtle enough it doesn't scream Nazi to me.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Sgent (Reply #14)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:17 PM

19. A difference worth noting -

While seeing it wouldn't trigger me either, it sends a clear message to those who know what it is. Think of it like a cross or other image on a steeple.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to taxi (Reply #19)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:06 AM

28. ... or the White Power/Okay sign Fascist males like to use in photo shoots,...

... because it is supposed to be top secret coded signal,... saying I am a racist too bro. Kinda like a secret Masonic handshake so you can identify a fellow "Traveler".

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to magicarpet (Reply #28)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:20 AM

30. Toss some red meat to the crowd, stir up the libs

I think those little PR stunts had a good long run, but now they've got to get down to business. Their leaders are free to travel.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Sgent (Reply #14)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:32 AM

38. I've seen it on paraphernalia

posted at other sites in a "this is a warning" sort of way.

I'm sure they thought they were being subtle in their dog whistle to white supremacists.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 10:58 PM

15. It didn't resemble a Nazi rune

It flat-out WAS a nazi rune. The only question is how far up the chain did the knowledge of the design go?

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ibegurpard (Reply #15)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:21 PM

22. This.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:00 PM

16. Thanks for Posting This Article...K & R..CPAC has defined itself forever...

I thought the Pukes couldn't get any worse or stupider....But they got a whole lot worse with this one..

I wonder who designed that stage? Instead of it being about the speakers, this has turned out
to be about Nazis and symbols they used in WWII.

The Republican Party could not have done a stupider job of planning.
And this was stupid beyond stupid.
.

.Whoever planned the stage, knew exactly what he/she was doing..Not a mistake..but it will
all come out in a few days or weeks...Who planned the stage and why...We will all know the facts...
just the facts, ...just the facts
..

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:01 PM

17. Fuck you Hyatt. You knew who they were and you took their money anyway

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ZonkerHarris (Reply #17)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:15 AM

35. That's what I'm thinking.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:18 PM

20. So Hyatt notices.

Hyatt sounds off.

Hyatt does absolutely nothing.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to BobTheSubgenius (Reply #20)

Sun Feb 28, 2021, 11:24 PM

23. Now disillusioned.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)


Response to ExTex (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:18 AM

37. Although. When you see the stage for the first time, you are

Frantically googling to see what it means because it was so close to a swastika, you just knew it had some meaning.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to ExTex (Reply #24)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:34 PM

48. LOL - wither poor Hyatt...

To answer your question, usually a production design company is hired; it handles the details with the hotel and construction staff.

Event and production design companies typically show the client different concepts from which to choose. I would love to know the concept-to-construction story of the set and stage. And, now that we’re thinking about it, I would also like to get my hands on the creative brief.

I worked in creative services on the communications side. Any reputable production and event firm will research its ideas before executing them in order to filter out anything unacceptable to the client.

And it all starts with a creative brief.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Politicub (Reply #48)


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:06 AM

27. Runes

Hitler used paranormal one way to control. Like taking Hindu swastika and changed it. The same was done with the runes. The rune it resembles is one for prosperity. So take care when you say Nazis runes because they are not theirs no more than the Hindu symbol was theirs. The focused ideas of a large group was thought to act as a way to control the "noosphere" a term by Pierre Teilhard de Chardin closest way to describe it. Martin Heidegger's book Introduction to Metaphysics was focused on by Hitler. The use of something sacred for the profane is abhorrent beyond words.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bear Creek (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

32. What you said!! Particularily the last sentence, the very definition of sacrilege

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #32)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:57 AM

33. It is exactly that

The ties to south and the eugenics that was done was an inspiration to them. So to pretend that there wasn't Americans sympathetic would be a lie. They are dangerous and use distorted spirituality as a tool. They needed to routed out after WWll but instead we brought some over. Project paperclip.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Rural_Progressive (Reply #32)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:06 AM

34. It is exactly that

The ties to south and the eugenics that was done was an inspiration to them. So to pretend that there wasn't Americans sympathetic would be a lie. They are dangerous and use distorted spirituality as a tool. They needed to routed out after WWll but instead we brought some over. Project paperclip.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bear Creek (Reply #27)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:31 PM

47. great info. Thanks

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to Bear Creek (Reply #27)

Tue Mar 2, 2021, 02:20 AM

52. Good clarification

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 12:21 AM

31. Hyatt hosts right wing nazi party, that tried overthrowing the US government 7 weeks ago,

and now we’re all discussing whether or not it’s a nazi stage design? Remind me next time I stay at the Hyatt to first inquire if there’s any nazis conventions going on.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:16 AM

36. Trump green lighted

the Nazis to come out of the woodwork. What if he was working with the feds to identify known threats to the country? What if the cult believed that to be true? We're not talking about the sharpest knives in the drawer. Someone could really cause real casualties (residual damage) with some packs of fire crackers at Trump rallies.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:54 AM

39. Hyatt doesn't like the Nordic symbol but they love that dollar sign.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 08:15 AM

40. A turnaround for Hyatt

What were they thinking. The question is whether they will rent to them again. Probably.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 09:44 AM

41. But we will cash the check anyway

because profit.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 10:41 AM

43. The national socialist movement in the US adopted it in 2016

in an attempt to appear slightly more mainstream

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Odal_(rune)#United_States

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 01:35 PM

44. Because of your abhorrent symbols of hate

we are not allowing you to use the exercise room the next time you stay with us.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:09 PM

45. Effing Nazis

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:18 PM

46. .




Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 02:45 PM

49. Implausible deniability.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Mon Mar 1, 2021, 06:49 PM

51. As a stage design it's dumb so I figure it was deliberate...

but I didn't know it had been appropriated into a Nazi symbol until pointed out on DU.

I also didn't happen to see tthe photo with that banner
till just shown here.

Hideous display!

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink


Response to demmiblue (Original post)

Tue Mar 2, 2021, 05:10 AM

53. I'm betting most of the attendees had no clue what was going on

I think it was organized by a small group who knew EXACTLY what they were doing, as if they had phony $18 or $88 dollar bills passed around as "jokes."

Hard core rank and file Republicans don't manipulate--they like to BE manipulated. Their ignorance is their biggest trademark. I bet 90% of the people there couldn't even tell you what a "rune" is. The 10% in the know were probably doing the "wink wink" routine in the shadows.

Reply to this post

Back to top Alert abuse Link here Permalink

Reply to this thread