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Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,111 posts)
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:01 PM Mar 2021

12 Republican-led states sue President Biden over climate change order

Source: USA Today

WASHINGTON — Twelve Republican-led states Monday sued President Joe Biden over his first executive order aimed at climate change, alleging he lacked the constitutional authority to implement new rules about greenhouse gases.

The federal lawsuit, led by Republican Attorney General Eric Schmitt of Missouri, argues Biden violated the separation of powers clause in the Constitution because Congress, not the president, has the power to regulate.

On his first day in the White House, Biden signed Executive Order 13990, directing federal agencies to calculate the "social cost" of greenhouse gas pollution by estimating "monetized damages" to inform future federal regulations. This includes changes in net agricultural productivity, human health, property damage from increased flood risk and the value of ecosystem services.

But the 12 states that are plaintiffs say assigning such values is a "quintessentially legislative action that falls within Congress’s exclusive authority." They also say the economic ramifications of the order will be disastrous.

Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/12-republican-led-states-sue-president-biden-over-climate-change-order/ar-BB1enRR0?li=BBnb7Kz

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12 Republican-led states sue President Biden over climate change order (Original Post) Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 OP
Republicans are setting themselves up as enemies of America. hadEnuf Mar 2021 #1
They are enemies of the planet. jimlup Mar 2021 #10
OK, cut them out. OAITW r.2.0 Mar 2021 #2
Build a wall. paleotn Mar 2021 #4
Going nowhere and wasting their taxpayer's money. paleotn Mar 2021 #3
thats a ridiculous lawsuit. drray23 Mar 2021 #5
You mean they haven't already? (n/t) OldBaldy1701E Mar 2021 #20
It seems to me that the collection of data "to inform future federal regulations" is not the same as scarletwoman Mar 2021 #6
I hope it's no big deal, executive branches do cost-benefit analyses all the time bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #7
A party of dumb fucks Botany Mar 2021 #8
In other words, extractive energy interests controlling elected officials in these twelve states sop Mar 2021 #9
it wont cost them.anything. drray23 Mar 2021 #11
It's a thin edge of the wedge fear malthaussen Mar 2021 #19
These imbeciles are going to be the death of all of us. Mickju Mar 2021 #12
The tongue chewing, knuckle draggers respond. Can't fix it folks. The stupid just burns. nt Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #13
Those idiots rlegro Mar 2021 #14
Stupid motherfuckers would kill us all if it makes them a profit. rickyhall Mar 2021 #15
The states... 2naSalit Mar 2021 #16
sit on it and spin wingers.. Maxheader Mar 2021 #17
The climate does not respect State borders. malthaussen Mar 2021 #18
Let's hope the courts listen to science and NOT bluestarone Mar 2021 #21

hadEnuf

(2,150 posts)
1. Republicans are setting themselves up as enemies of America.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:07 PM
Mar 2021

They are against absolutely everything someone other than them tries to do.

OAITW r.2.0

(23,862 posts)
2. OK, cut them out.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:09 PM
Mar 2021

If that's their parochial concern....cool. The voters can change their representation. Meanwhile 38 State's carrying on with a progressive climate change future.

paleotn

(17,781 posts)
3. Going nowhere and wasting their taxpayer's money.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:16 PM
Mar 2021

Then again, a majority of voters in those states elected these nuts in the first place. Maybe they deserve their tax dollars being wasted.

drray23

(7,587 posts)
5. thats a ridiculous lawsuit.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:20 PM
Mar 2021

All that the EO does is direct agencies to make estimates for planning purposes. How can this possibly be exclusively a purview of congress ? Are they going to also sue to forbid people from thinking about issues ?

scarletwoman

(31,893 posts)
6. It seems to me that the collection of data "to inform future federal regulations" is not the same as
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:21 PM
Mar 2021

actually creating new regulations.

I would hope the court would recognize this, but who knows.

bucolic_frolic

(42,676 posts)
7. I hope it's no big deal, executive branches do cost-benefit analyses all the time
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:23 PM
Mar 2021

as part of decision making. And these bozos think the LEGISLATURE will better estimate such values? Better than say, scientists, actuaries, accountants, public policy makers? I don't think so.

sop

(9,946 posts)
9. In other words, extractive energy interests controlling elected officials in these twelve states
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:27 PM
Mar 2021

are suing Biden because EO 13990 will cost them a lot of money.

drray23

(7,587 posts)
11. it wont cost them.anything.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:43 PM
Mar 2021

that EO directs federal agencies to carry out studies for planning purposes. It does not impose anything on states.

malthaussen

(17,066 posts)
19. It's a thin edge of the wedge fear
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:54 AM
Mar 2021

The XO legitimizes the concept that climate change is at least partially man-made, and that some action must be taken to combat it. It is that potential action the plutocracts fear, hence they're trying to head it off at the pass.

In much the same way, the NRA opposes and and all firearms restrictions, because they fear what might come next.

-- Mal

Mickju

(1,794 posts)
12. These imbeciles are going to be the death of all of us.
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 09:53 PM
Mar 2021

Our imploding climate is an extreme emergency and most people are totally oblivious.

rlegro

(338 posts)
14. Those idiots
Mon Mar 8, 2021, 10:36 PM
Mar 2021

Assigning numerical values to climate variables is an exercise in SCIENCE, not ledger-lating. Although I suppose Repubs could try to assign any nifty, self-fulfilling numbers they like. That would be nonsensical. But I repeat myself.

2naSalit

(86,061 posts)
16. The states...
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 08:34 AM
Mar 2021
Republican state attorneys general from Arkansas, Arizona, Indiana, Kansas, Montana, Nebraska, Ohio, Oklahoma, South Carolina, Tennessee and Utah joined the suit.


I knew Montana would be in on it.

Everyone needs to keep an eye on the Montana crew, only Tester is a Dem and he is against the decision on the KXL. Tester believes the lie about jobs, the issue is that Montana based it's tax structure around the extractive industries and it shows. Especially now.

Maxheader

(4,366 posts)
17. sit on it and spin wingers..
Tue Mar 9, 2021, 09:07 AM
Mar 2021

Joe is the new superman for gaia, the Big Mother ...

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