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Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:23 AM

Actual NY Times BS Headline: Biden Got the Vaccine Rollout Humming, With Trump's Help

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Source: New York Times

What a load of crap the NY Times is heaving at the American public. The trumpster fire that was the last maladministration didn't do squat to protect the public from the ravages of covid. tRump didn't have a plan on how to deal with covid, yet the NY Times is trying desperately to give him credit? Bullshit!

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Beyond the triumphant tone, a closer look at the ramp-up offers a more mixed picture, one in which the new administration expanded and bulked up a vaccine production effort whose key elements were in place when Mr. Biden took over for President Donald J. Trump. Both administrations deserve credit, although neither wants to grant much to the other.

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To Trump administration aides, the new president's crowing rings off-key. Mr. Biden is proclaiming victory off his predecessor's achievements while wrongly grumbling about a mess he says he inherited, they say.

"They criticize what we did, but they are using our playbook every step of the way," said Paul Mango, the Trump administration's deputy chief of staff for health policy and a senior official in the crash vaccine development effort then known as Operation Warp Speed. He said Mr. Trump's team oversaw the construction or expansion of nearly two dozen plants involved in vaccine production and invoked the Defense Production Act 18 times to ensure those factories had sufficient supplies.

The Biden team is "maintaining a very nice trajectory," Mr. Mango said. "But don't criticize us to make yourselves look better."

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/10/us/politics/biden-coronavirus-vaccine.html

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Reply Actual NY Times BS Headline: Biden Got the Vaccine Rollout Humming, With Trump's Help (Original post)
Unknown Beatle Mar 2021 OP
gab13by13 Mar 2021 #1
yardwork Mar 2021 #2
ashredux Mar 2021 #3
pimpbot Mar 2021 #4
LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #13
JohnSJ Mar 2021 #5
llashram Mar 2021 #6
LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #14
The Wizard Mar 2021 #7
LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #15
samnsara Mar 2021 #8
barbtries Mar 2021 #11
LymphocyteLover Mar 2021 #16
Tommy Carcetti Mar 2021 #9
JohnSJ Mar 2021 #19
niyad Mar 2021 #26
area51 Mar 2021 #22
marble falls Mar 2021 #25
Iliyah Mar 2021 #10
gab13by13 Mar 2021 #12
BootinUp Mar 2021 #17
mopinko Mar 2021 #18
JohnSJ Mar 2021 #20
Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #21
Xipe Totec Mar 2021 #23
marble falls Mar 2021 #24
Jetheels Mar 2021 #27
Omaha Steve Mar 2021 #28

Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:27 AM

1. Just a guess,

but I think you may take some heat for this article.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:29 AM

2. Consider moving your commentary to the top of your post.

I agree with your assessment of this BS article but others may not read long enough to get to your commentary.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:30 AM

3. Two words....Bull Shit

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:36 AM

4. Washington Post had the same hit piece

Its like a coordinated attack to muddy the waters. Don't remember them doing this when former man was claiming it was his great economy back in 17/18.

ETA I won't link to the BS but here is a screen cap:

https://ibb.co/DC8RWF3

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Response to pimpbot (Reply #4)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:09 AM

13. I was just going to note that too-- clearly coordinated and very annoying



I didn't have the time or inclination to read the pieces but was wondering what Trump toady is pushing this hogwash

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:36 AM

5. Typical NY Times bullshit. Is this really LBN?

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:40 AM

6. how dare the NYtimes

HOW DARE THEM!!!

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Response to llashram (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:09 AM

14. NYTimes is famous for this sort of thing

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:45 AM

7. The Times is still trying to

cultivate an audience in the alternate Universe. By and large the Times is written at a level not understood by Trumpanzees. Ask CNN how long it took for them to recover after the advent of Pox News caused them to lurch right in a futile effort to win back the audience that switched to Pox. Those who stand for nothing will fall for anything.

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Response to The Wizard (Reply #7)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:10 AM

15. The NYTimes is where Republicans go to get rehabilitated-- and for some reason there's

always space for them there. Also they have David Brooks, whose full time job is doing this.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:47 AM

8. trump would have killed us by now

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Response to samnsara (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:57 AM

11. he did

thousands upon thousands.

the only credit i give his administration is investing in vaccine development. nothing else.

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Response to samnsara (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:11 AM

16. I shudder to think how bad the pandemic would be if Trump had been re-elected

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:49 AM

9. The vaccine got out in spite of Trump, not because of him.

Never forget this was the man who intentionally hid the realities of the virus from us all while publicly claiming that it would magically disappear after 15 cases.

He deserves credit for nothing.

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Response to Tommy Carcetti (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:22 AM

19. Exactly. The 530000 dead and 27 million infected due to trump's lies and misinformation,

hindering and contradicting the SCIENTISTS every step of the way, is NOT a measure of success

Just ask the real scientists who worked under his administration such as Dr. Fauci, Dr. Bright, Dr. Birx, etc. Not the scott atlas', who is a radiologist, not an infectious disease expert or epidemiologist, or even the NON-physicians like the xenophobic peter navaro

Ya nailed it Tommy, this was done in spite of trump, who effectively sabotaged the the vaccine distribution, and left the Biden with no plan, insufficient vaccines or resources to administer the vaccines

Shame on the NY Times for playing their bothersiderism, AGAIN




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Response to JohnSJ (Reply #19)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:56 AM

26. Worldometer has it at 29 million infected, and over 544,000 dead.

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Response to Tommy Carcetti (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:34 AM

22. +1

Hell, Trump wouldn't even mask up & encourage others to mask up to slow the spread of the virus.

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Response to Tommy Carcetti (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:51 AM

25. Have we ever found the missing million doses the exPresident* bought?

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 08:51 AM

10. RWers have the money and clout in the media to try . . .

and change events to assure their effed up base and republicans that they are the greatest party of all time and that they are so misunderstood and in fact republicans are the party that will cause the "boom" and it was them and shithole who actually saved Americans from COVID-19.

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Response to Iliyah (Reply #10)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:00 AM

12. Post of the thread,

Yes, you nailed it. I have noticed the shift to the right from the MSM since president Biden has been growing in popularity.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:13 AM

17. It's in the politics section. That's where bullshit lives. Nt

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:21 AM

18. the vaccines got developed on their watch. that's it.

and they had zip to do w 'warp speed'. it's what those companies do. all they had to do was stay put of the way.
those idiots didnt even put in an order for everything they could produce.

not to mention how much grift was included in every dollar they spent.

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Response to mopinko (Reply #18)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:25 AM

20. and actually that work had been started over a decade ago when SARS, MERS, and Ebola came

into the picture


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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:30 AM

21. Both Times and WaPo had fawning pieces within a day of one anoher.

Either someone for Trump is lobbying them or they’re trying to rehabilitate his image for some reason. First of all, Trump took credit for the vaccines when Pfizer, the first to get approved, did not participate in Operation Warp Speed for their research. They used their own money, so nothing Trump or his sycophants did helped get that vaccine to market faster. Second, Trump most likely delayed the vaccine a bit because he pressured the makers to release their vaccines before the election to help his reelection. There were many articles about the public not trusting the vaccines because of Trump trying to rush their trial phases. Neither Pfizer nor Moderna wanted a product the public refused, and waiting until after the election was not a long wait. Third, Trump and his administration did nothing but lie for four years. There is no reason ever to believe anything they say. Their claim that the Biden team is following their playbook is laughable—they never had a playbook the whole time or if they did all it said was lie for Trump.

The WaPo article was more about the distribution plan and the plan to ramp up vaccine production. Those writers gave the Trump team credit for the idea of asking Merck to manufacture the J&J vaccine to increase production. The idea may be theirs, but they didn’t follow through so all they deserve is credit for the idea rather than full credit for negotiating the deal. That idea was like a lot of other ideas that Trump bragged about but never delivered—like his fabulous news healthcare plan that was always to be released in two weeks but never saw the light of day, or his fix for the opioid crisis which was a photo with him of a task force that never did anything, or his plan for infrastructure investment that resulted only in an announcement of Infrastructure Week every now and then to change the subject. The lack of follow through and actually accomplishing anything is a hallmark of his administration—and most likely one of the reasons he ran his businesses into the ground, had six bankruptcies, and had to go to Russia begging for money.

There’s a reason the US went from having one of the worst pandemic responses in the world to the world’s best response to getting the vaccine manufactured and administered, and that is the different man at the top.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:38 AM

23. Trump is the fly sitting on the ass of an ox claiming credit for plowing the field. nt

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 09:49 AM

24. Come on now, you know what a liberal bias the NYT has. They smoke 'tea' in the washrooms.

"Dr Mango"? Specialist in tropical diseases?

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:05 AM

27. Oh pleeeeeeze we'd all be injecting bleach and not wearing masks if trump had his way.

I’m not sure even fox news prints articles this delusional. This article is also dangerously rewriting history.

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Response to Unknown Beatle (Original post)

Fri Mar 12, 2021, 10:33 AM

28. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING

Didn't use actual title. Comments inn wrong place. OVER 12 hours old when posted.

Post the latest news from reputable mainstream news websites and blogs. Important news of national interest only. No analysis or opinion pieces. No duplicates. News stories must have been published within the last 12 hours. Use the published title of the story as the title of the discussion thread.

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