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Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:03 AM

'A colony is incompatible with democracy': AOC leads new push for Puerto Rico statehood

Source: The Independent

Representative Alexandra Ocasio-Cortez, along with two other Democrats, on Thursday introduced a new legislation seeking to create a bigger role for citizens of Puerto Rico in determining the future status of the US territory, including statehood and independence.

New York representative Nydia Velázquez and New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez along with Ms Ocasio-Cortez re-introduced the Puerto Rico Self-Determination Act of 2020, which was first introduced on August 25, 2020.

The bill proposes creating a "status convention" made up of delegates elected by Puerto Rican voters to come up with a long-term solution of its future and territorial arrangements with the US, potentially paving the way for sovereignty or full-statehood for the island.

“A colony is incompatible with democracy,” said AOC while co-introducing the bill in the house. “It’s incompatible with full citizenship, and we should all be able to enjoy the right to vote for our leaders,” she said.


Read more: https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/aoc-puerto-rico-bill-full-statehood-b1819519.html



Before getting excited, keep in mind that:
1) There's never been a majority of PR Citizens who supported Statehood (vs independence or Commonwealth)
2) There's no assurance that PR Statehood will result in two new Democratic Senators (Gov. is a Trump-supporting Republican)
3) There's no likelihood that this will get through the Senate.

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Reply 'A colony is incompatible with democracy': AOC leads new push for Puerto Rico statehood (Original post)
brooklynite Mar 19 OP
IronLionZion Mar 19 #1
Deminpenn Mar 19 #2
JT45242 Mar 19 #3
AnrothElf Mar 19 #4
pandr32 Mar 19 #7
catrose Mar 19 #5
Sapient Donkey Mar 19 #6
scarletwoman Mar 19 #8
Sapient Donkey Mar 19 #9
TexasTowelie Mar 19 #14
Miguelito Loveless Mar 19 #10
muriel_volestrangler Mar 19 #11
muriel_volestrangler Mar 19 #12
Kid Berwyn Mar 19 #13
TexasTowelie Mar 19 #15
ck4829 Mar 22 #16

Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:35 AM

1. It might get some GOP support

since PR does elect people from both parties.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:45 AM

2. There have been many referendums over the years

in PR re statehood vs status quo. Statehood has never won a majority.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:50 AM

3. in 2020, immediate statehood won the election 52-48

Last edited Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:29 PM - Edit history (1)

https://ballotpedia.org/Puerto_Rico_Statehood_Referendum_(2020).



So, it seems like the citizens of PR have voted for it -- and very recently.

I don't care if both Senators aren't dems, it is absolutely ridiculous that Puerto Rico which has over 3 million people and would be the 31st most populated state does not get full representation while Wyoming, ND, SD, and Alaska with a smaller TOTAL population get 8 senators.



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Response to JT45242 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 11:54 AM

4. THIS

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Response to JT45242 (Reply #3)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 12:36 PM

7. +1

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 12:02 PM

5. Amen, sister.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 12:31 PM

6. Clearly AOC is in the pocket of Big Flag and their lobbyist

Kidding.

Hasn't it always been narrow margin for those for and against statehood in PR?

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #6)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:21 PM

8. See post #3 above. They voted for statehood this past November, 52 to 48:

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Response to scarletwoman (Reply #8)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 01:50 PM

9. Your link in that post didn't seem to work

but it makes sense if the majority want it now. I do recall in the past it was pretty close.

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Response to Sapient Donkey (Reply #9)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:42 PM

14. Here is another link since I posted this news after the election.

Puerto Ricans just issued their mandate for statehood
https://www.democraticunderground.com/1286946

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 02:40 PM

10. And don't stop with Puerto Rico

Lots of other "territories" need to come in from the cold.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:19 PM

11. McConnell has no argument against PR statehood, so he calls it "socialism" and "government overreach

Those don't, of course, make any sense whatsoever. It just shows he has no legitimate reason for opposing it, so he grabs for the Republican buzzwords for "this is Bad", and trusts his idiot supporters will just believe what he tells them:

"They plan to make the District of Columbia a state — that would give them two new Democratic senators — Puerto Rico a state, [that] would give them two more new Democratic senators," McConnell said. "This is full bore socialism on the march in the House."

But McConnell's office sought to clarify the comments on Tuesday, after social media backlash over McConnell's bashing of the yearslong efforts to give the District and Puerto Rico full voting representation in the federal government, The Washington Post first reported.

An aide to McConnell confirmed to News4 that the majority leader did not intend to brand the statehood effort as a socialist move, but instead wanted to refer to it as an example of government overreach by Democrats.

https://www.nbcwashington.com/news/local/mcconnell-appears-to-call-dc-puerto-rico-statehood-socialism-in-fox-news-interview/149100/

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:32 PM

12. The PR Governor since January caucused with the Democrats when a delegate to the House

Though neither of Puerto Rico’s two major political parties have official affiliations on the mainland, members of the PNP traditionally caucused with Republicans on the Hill. But because the island relied on federal funding and because mainland progressives tended to support Puerto Rico’s calls for statehood, Pierluisi was more ideologically aligned with the Democratic Caucus than the Republican Conference. Like every other statutory representative at the time, Pierluisi caucused with the Democrats. Pierluisi won re-election in 2012 against Robert Cox Alomar of the PPD with 48.4 percent of the vote.

https://history.house.gov/People/Detail/20030?ret=True


He is not a supporter of Trump:



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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 03:45 PM

13. I'm excited.

Puerto Rico should have long ago become a state.



Capt. Angel Espada, US Army, was my grandfather’s best friend.

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Fri Mar 19, 2021, 04:44 PM

15. Your first assertion is incorrect.

A majority of voters approved of statehood in the November 3 election.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1286946

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Response to brooklynite (Original post)

Mon Mar 22, 2021, 07:14 AM

16. Go Puerto Rico and AOC!

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