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brooklynite

(94,489 posts)
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:15 PM Mar 2021

Evidence in Capitol Attack Most Likely Supports Sedition Charges, Prosecutor Says

Source: New York Times

WASHINGTON — Evidence the government obtained in the investigation into the Jan. 6 attack on the Capitol most likely meets the bar necessary to charge some of the suspects with sedition, Michael R. Sherwin, the federal prosecutor who had been leading the Justice Department’s inquiry, said in an interview that aired on Sunday.

The department has rarely brought charges of sedition, the crime of conspiring to overthrow the government.

But in an interview with “60 Minutes,” Mr. Sherwin said prosecutors had evidence that most likely proved such a charge.

“I personally believe the evidence is trending toward that, and probably meets those elements,” Mr. Sherwin said. “I believe the facts do support those charges. And I think that, as we go forward, more facts will support that.”

Read more: https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2021/03/21/us/politics/capitol-riot-sedition.amp.html

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Evidence in Capitol Attack Most Likely Supports Sedition Charges, Prosecutor Says (Original Post) brooklynite Mar 2021 OP
Like I have been saying all along bottomofthehill Mar 2021 #1
I certainly hope so AverageOldGuy Mar 2021 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author COL Mustard Mar 2021 #3
Very Machiavellian, but the State must defend itself bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #4
Hopefully, they get 20+ of solitary confinement as I don't think sedition gets the death penalty. Lucky Luciano Mar 2021 #6
Lock him up!!!!! Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Mar 2021 #5
I want to see someone charged with sedition James48 Mar 2021 #7
Wow! Sounds like 20 years. 70sEraVet Mar 2021 #8
I dislike traitors .............send them to Florence Colorado.......... turbinetree Mar 2021 #9
Set the example now so it never happens again. I think a lot of these people are going to prison. As Pepsidog Mar 2021 #10
Well said. orangecrush Mar 2021 #12
Excellent post, Pepsidog - thanks!!! Talitha Mar 2021 #14
Fuck talking about that, Michael. LudwigPastorius Mar 2021 #11
The problem is that "most likely" is equivalent to reasonable doubt. BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #13
Isn'T Sherwin the TRUMP-appointed prosecutor who let all of the insurrectionists leave the NCjack Mar 2021 #15
Sherwin should've kept his moutn shut Deminpenn Mar 2021 #16

bottomofthehill

(8,327 posts)
1. Like I have been saying all along
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:19 PM
Mar 2021

Investigate, charge, arrest, try, convict, incarcerate. If along the way you can flip a few to testify to help their circumstances, so be it.

AverageOldGuy

(1,523 posts)
2. I certainly hope so
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 08:29 PM
Mar 2021

I certainly hope prosecutors follow through with charges of sedition, including charging any members of Congress who can be proven to have assisted the attackers.

It's past time to show these terrorists that their running around the woods, playing with guns, waving their Confederate flags, proclaiming their readiness to overthrow the communists is not funny.

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bucolic_frolic

(43,123 posts)
4. Very Machiavellian, but the State must defend itself
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:09 PM
Mar 2021

and if we're going to have democracy now is the time to make that apparent.

Lucky Luciano

(11,253 posts)
6. Hopefully, they get 20+ of solitary confinement as I don't think sedition gets the death penalty.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:26 PM
Mar 2021

These miscreants must never be heard from again and their movement permanently destroyed.

James48

(4,432 posts)
7. I want to see someone charged with sedition
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:28 PM
Mar 2021

I’m tired of everyone blaming someone else, and asking for a do-over.

Bring the proper charge. Convict, and send to prison. Case closed.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
9. I dislike traitors .............send them to Florence Colorado..........
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 09:57 PM
Mar 2021

and also go after all of these fuckers that were on the stage..........

Pepsidog

(6,254 posts)
10. Set the example now so it never happens again. I think a lot of these people are going to prison. As
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 10:14 PM
Mar 2021

a criminal defense attorney I know most first time offenders don’t do time but this case is different. January 6, 2021 is a date we will never forget and is now a historical event. In my 59 years l have never seen anything like it. They stormed the Capitol, people died and were injured. I suspect there are plenty of federal judges who will show the public what befalls someone who attacks the Capitol police to takeover and disrupt the transition of power. Never in my lifetime did I think this ever would happen. Those charged I think are in for a very rude awakening.

LudwigPastorius

(9,130 posts)
11. Fuck talking about that, Michael.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 10:42 PM
Mar 2021

I'm not worried about those cases. They are in good hands with Merrick Garland leading the Department.

Let's talk about you being a punk fixer for Donald Trump and Bill Barr.

Let's talk about you giving Micael Flynn's defense team internal FBI documents.

Let's talk about you ordering an end to an investigation of a $10 million illegal foreign contribution from a Egyptian state-owned bank to the Trump campaign.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
13. The problem is that "most likely" is equivalent to reasonable doubt.
Sun Mar 21, 2021, 11:17 PM
Mar 2021

"Probably" is not "beyond a reasonable doubt," as much as I want these POSs to be tossed into a federal max and forgotten.

NCjack

(10,279 posts)
15. Isn'T Sherwin the TRUMP-appointed prosecutor who let all of the insurrectionists leave the
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 10:05 AM
Mar 2021

Capitol grounds and WDC without charging them? With plenty of visual evidence on Jan 6th, now that he no longer is involved in the prosecutions, he runs his yapper about the DOJ should bring sedition chargers. The defense is thankful for his assistance.

Sherwin appears to me to be a torpedo from Trump to wreck the prosecutions by AG Garland.

Deminpenn

(15,273 posts)
16. Sherwin should've kept his moutn shut
Tue Mar 23, 2021, 11:13 AM
Mar 2021

Neal Katyal said what I was thinking yesterday when he was a guest on MSNBC, that defense lawyers are and are going to use some of things Sherwin said in arguments for their clients.

His answers should've stuck with what was in the public charging documents, otherwise "I can't comment on ongoing investigations".

It was also interesting that Sherwin was actually in the crowd moving toward the Capitol but at no time, apparently, did he think it would be a good idea to call someone and relate what he was seeing.

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