'Strange and inappropriate': Flood victim says Cuomo came onto her in her home

[Polybius]

Source: NBC News

A married New York woman said Monday that Gov. Andrew Cuomo grabbed her by her face, gave her unwanted kisses and appeared to come on to her in front of her son while touring flood damage on her property in 2017.

Sherry Vill said she was introduced to Cuomo, in her Greece, New York, home where he leaned over and kissed her cheeks in a "highly sexual manner."

"He said, 'That’s what Italians do — kiss both cheeks,'" Vill told reporters in an online news conference with her attorney, Gloria Allred.

Vill said she was shocked by Cuomo's actions. “I am Italian. In my family, family members kiss. Strangers do not kiss,” Vill said.
As Cuomo, a Democrat, left to tour her property, Vill said he stopped, turned to her and said, "You're beautiful."

Read more: https://www.nbcnews.com/politics/politics-news/strange-inappropriate-flood-victim-says-cuomo-came-her-her-home-n1262368

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[PortTack]

1. Trashing

[lapfog_1]

2. Back in the unwoke 1970s

I met a guy in college... he would walk up to random women on campus and say "You wanna fuck?" He get slapped a lot, ignored mostly, but some women would say "sure"... about 1 out of 200.

He is/was less creepy than Cuomo imho.

[NJCher]

20. We had a guy like that, too

I had to laugh when I read your post. Looking back, I think he just didn’t have the savior faire to get women to like him, so rather than do totally without, he figured he’d give honesty a shot.

These stories from women about Cuomo all have one thing in common. They reveal his come on methods are from another day and time. Telling women they are beautiful is an example. What’s the appropriate response to that? “Oh, governor, I’d make a lovely armpiece?”

Or asking women in their early 20s if they liked older men. That’s just not something young women think about.

One of the first accounts was one that was really dated, too, but I can’t recall it at the moment.

I think there might be a certain amount of social ineptitude that runs in the family. His brother Chris says a lot of thoughtless things, too. Tonight when he transferred the show to Don Lemon, he called him “my boy.” Truly cringeworthy.

[oldsoftie]

28. I knew a guy like that too. Although not THAT direct!

His theory was hit on ALL the good looking women & if just ONE says "ok", you're a winner!

[caber09]

3. Trashing this bs story

The agenda people keep trying...these allegations get more ridiculous...how come you skipped the part where she says "will not call for him to resign and won't file a civil suit against cuomo" the grainy pic vs all the clear pics...this was all in front of people...it was such an assault she showed off the pictures he sent her and her son "no longer has the video" of his mom being "accosted" and boylan of course tweets about it...feeling the heat because she has to repeat she isn't lying...strange how witnesses are talking to each other directly or through social media when they shouldn't be

[torius]

4. Yup.

Wonder if the people behind this also made a huge deal about Biden patting kids on the head.

[Budi]

11. Maggie Haberman's husband Dareh Gregorian dug deep for this gem.

Great! She can now testify with the others on the bus.

Subpoena her too.

[Budi]

5. How does one kiss someone's cheeks "in a highly sexual manner"?

Explain that to me.

Honestly, has anyone ever kissed your cheecks "in a highly sexual manner"?

Huh?

Highly Sexual Kiss On The Cheek

Ok. C'mon
🙄

If you think this is something , Ya know what else Cuomo did? Ha! I got a better story about Cuomo than this one

HEY, HERE IS THE REALLY BIG CUOMO STORY!!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215281788

[JoeOtterbein]

7. Yes. nt

[Budi]

8. Rofl..

Wadda ya know

Check out this Even Bigger Cuomo story !!
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215281788

[pnwmom]

12. He pulled her close with one hand, and he held her neck

with his other hand.

I've been kissed on cheeks before, but not by men who grabbed my neck to do it. It's polite to touch you on the shoulder, or the arm, but not the neck. And it's not polite if it's not mutual. She was holding her dog, and he knew it hadn't been welcome. Why do we know that? Because he excused himself after that, saying he did it because he was Italian.

Okay, but it didn't end there.

Afterwards, he went outside with some people, and she went out and stayed on the porch. And before he left, he joined her on the porch and kissed her AGAIN, while she was still holding the dog.

Then he had a staffer email her to ask if she wanted to go to some event -- but he didn't invite her husband or a +1, which would have been normal.

[George II]

36. So we have a fuzzy picture from a video "3+ years ago", neither of whom can be recognized, and....

..."her son no longer had the video". But he's got ONE screen shot of it!

Now let's be a little nitpicky, too - comparing the two pictures (with presumably the same clothes):

1. He's thinner than the "fuzzy" picture
2. His sleeve is a couple of inches up his bicep, in the "fuzzy" picture it's just about AT his bent elbow

[Budi]

42. I say subpoena her. Present the evidence for this accusation.

Bet she refuses to say it under oath as well.

Boylen's own story was debunked by her own fellow staffers.
Someone seems desperate, & its not the Gov.
🙄

[Cozmo]

37. YES. Your comment is such a gender reveal, wake up

[Budi]

41. Wtf does this mean? This has nothing to do with gender. Wth?

"Gender reveal
Wake up"

"Gender reveal".. fking cripe sakes.

It has nothing to do with gender.
Nothing.
Not enough eyerolls for this bs.

What a weird statement.
What are you even talking about.

[George II]

45. What are you talking about, gender reveal? Surely you realize who you're responding to, right?

[Budi]

46. That was a weird accusation.

No clue, is my guess

[Cozmo]

49. Sorry but you sound like the millions of clueless men who have never experienced sexual harassment

If, you are not a man and have never been sexually harassed, then congratulations but please know that this is a very real and raw topic for a lot of people. Trivializing another's hurt is not a good profile for anyone. Why not let this Cuomo thing play out before jumping to conclusions? Do these accusations really seem out of the realm of reality to you? My gut is telling me there just might be some truth behind them. As a public figure, Cuomo should know all the pitfalls and expect that he will have to respond to accusations such as these, whether they be factual or not.

[Budi]

50. You have no clue what you're accusing me of nor do you have the right to throw a blatant line out at

..me with ZERO knowledge of who you are even talking to.

Get off my feed. Don't bother to respond
Ignore

[Cozmo]

53. Who the eff are you?

[George II]

57. SHE is far from one of "....the millions of clueless men who have never experienced....

....sexual harassment"

Budi is a WOMAN, and I believe she would appreciate a sincere apology.

[Cozmo]

71. No apology here when standing up for women

To all those unaware, I was speaking out about a seemingly sexist rant. Whoever buli is, I was offended by the comment. Your outrage would be amusing if it wasn't so misdirected. Did you ever stop to think about Cozmo's gender?

[George II]

75. You can't even get the name of the person you insulted correct - it's B U D I ! ! !

Offended or not, it did not call for a much more offensive comment, insulting a woman as a "clueless man", and my outrage (and hers) isn't "misdirected".

Male or female, "Cozmo" doesn't have license to insult anyone else, male or female. Calling even a man a "clueless man" is offensive, to do so to a woman is that much more offensive.

Goodnight, and goodbye.

[Cozmo]

77. You think that was a mistake?????

[Cozmo]

54. Mr thinks thou doest protest too much! EVOLVE, bye bye

[Budi]

51. Weaponizing the #METOO Movement for a political hit on an opponant

Is not trivializing.

It is Tara Reade in another form. Add Repub Elise Stefanik to the mix and the bs stories that are debunked as fast as they are shoved to the media, & the whole thing takes on an ugliy tone of weaponizing a righteous movement like #METOO for political & monetary gain.

I resent your accusations of me & trivializing my personal status without knowing one damn thing about me.

You guessed fking wrong.

[Cozmo]

73. Not worth the engagement, Looks like a nerve got struck

You have your opinions and you have expressed the soc shockingly. I don't care what your gender is you just don't sound like any sister of mine.

[George II]

52. You're barking up the wrong tree, pal.

[JoeOtterbein]

6. Gross!

If he "does it all the time", why have we not seen a picture of him kissing another guy like he did to the lady in this pic?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

9. That headline is calling out for the sort of juvenile joke that only I would make around here

But I will resist the temptation

[ExciteBike66]

23. They really need to break "onto" into two separate words...

[oldsoftie]

29. I didnt catch that before, but thanks to you NOW I do!

[Budi]

10. Salaciously written article by: Dareh Gregorian. Maggie Haberman's husband

. Dareh Gregorian was born as Dareh Ardashes Gregorian. He has been married to Maggie Haberman since November 9, 2003.

Explains this bizarre clickbait headline story.

Try harder!!

[pnwmom]

13. Why not watch the woman's videoed statement? n/t

[Budi]

14. Why was this part conveniently left out of the OP?

See post #3

..how come you skipped the part where she says "will not call for him to resign and won't file a civil suit against cuomo" the grainy pic vs all the clear pics...this was all in front of people...it was such an assault she showed off the pictures he sent her and her son "no longer has the video" of his mom being "accosted" and boylan of course tweets about it

[torius]

15. A bunch of women

said these same things about Biden, there are photos too. Kissing them, nuzzling them, smelling their hair, women and kids ... he stopped doing it when it drew attention. Know what? I'm GLAD HE'S PRESIDENT!!

[Budi]

16. Me Too.

Now they just look desperate.
It's the same m.o. from the same people.
Apparantly it wasn't "Strange & Inappropriate" enough to file a civil suit, call for him to resign, nor to have saved the video.

Oh ya..bet she won't testify & admit it under oath either.. unless she's now added to the list of subpoenas.



Post #3

how come you skipped the part where she says "will not call for him to resign and won't file a civil suit against cuomo" the grainy pic vs all the clear pics...this was all in front of people...it was such an assault she showed off the pictures he sent her and her son "no longer has the video" of his mom being "accosted" and boylan of course tweets about it

[pnwmom]

19. Biden stopped. Why didn't Cuomo? Why didn't all Democratic politicians get a clue

after Al Franken resigned?

Why do I still see Democrats making excuses for entitled men who can't seem to change?

[Demsrule86]

31. Let me just say that since it was all lies about Biden...there was no stopping. I imagine the same

is true for Cuomo...right wing BS with some Democrats piling on for their own particular reasons..wrote down their names in case they are in a national primary someday so I can not vote for them. I value loyalty.

[Budi]

44. It's almost like they're writing a script to fit a desired narrative!

Like the same group tried with Tara Reade.

The same Tara Reade who became a RT media star, shopping her story when no one else listened to her anymore.
Because she wrote a script to fit a desired narrative as a political hit.

We see who's behind this & when Repub Elise Stefanik is selling Impeach Cuomo teeshirts, it pretty much blows the whole D level script writer's story.

"Money & Media" & a political low level scab hit.
And that is all this is about.

It pisses me off that they've weaponized the #METOO movement for their own political & monetary gain .
C'mon. ELISE STEFANIK? Who saw nothing wrong with Trump's (Epstein) sexual issues, to the point that she sat their and voted NOT to Impeach him the 1st time around!
Now she's all #METOO?

Wtf ever.

[pnwmom]

47. Cuomo is well known as a bully in NY. That's why he lost support among so many politicians

from his own party who know him personally.

So he seems nothing like Biden.

[Demsrule86]

56. I remember long conversations with you about Biden various Biden accusers...you thought he should

drop out. Trump would be president had that happened. And I promise you no matter who runs the GOP have a plan to destroy her/him. And Cuomo isn't accused of being a bully...he is accused of sexual harassment and sexual assault really by women who won't go under oath and make these charges. Thus I can't take them seriously. You know my history. I believe women who accuse a person and don't want an investigation or to go under oath hurt women like me who seek justice for assault.

[pnwmom]

58. Cuomo has been accused by many people of being a bully.

And the women are participating in the INDEPENDENT investigation run by AG James.

They are only resisting participating in the parallel show run by NY House leaders, run by attorneys associated with Cuomo.

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/02/22/nyregion/cuomo-new-york-covid.html

[caber09]

59. You think they are under oath?

Again they prob aren't they are just being questioned...awfully odd for witnesses under oath to be hanging out with each other or tweeting back and forth to each other about an ongoing investigation...tells me they aren't under oath..usually witnesses are not supposed to communicate with each other. But go on keep believing this bs...now I see you wanted biden to drop out too? Seriously? Obsessed and agenda driven to say the least...so I ask you why are witnesses in an ongoing investigation communicating with each other...that's usually a big no no..and this new accuser won't call for resignation, wants investigation to play out (hmm sound familiar?)...and most importantly won't file charges...if you aren't filing charges what's the damn point? I am trashing this bs story again for the hell of it.

[pnwmom]

60. Why would James's investigators question everyone under oath except them?

That's a ridiculous idea. James demanded subpoena power, and she's been using it to question witnesses.

And there is no ongoing trial, and no judge to tell these women they can't talk to each other or anyone else about what happened to them.

[caber09]

61. Witnesses are not supposed to be talking to each other..

Not one lawyer has said they are testifying under oath...if they were under oath their lawyers would constantly mention it...it would be the first thing mentioned..instead we have witnesses tweeting, making fun of cuomo and in constant contact...how many were together at the boylan rally last week?.and you wanted Biden to drop out? If you had any credibility left it would be gone...good thing you don't have to worry about losing what's already lost

Please tell me why not one lawyer has mentioned any of them being under oath and why not one is filing charges? Filing charges already would've shown they aren't full of crap

[pnwmom]

62. Why would the lawyers constantly be mentioning something every informed person already knows?

James's team is questioning everyone, under oath, after subpoenaing them to appear. She's not running some rinky-dink pretend investigation where only some people are under oath, but not the key witnesses.

And I don't know why you think I wanted Biden to drop out. I preferred other candidates -- till I heard Cliburn's endorsement -- but I wasn't calling for him to drop out.

[caber09]

63. Did you believe Tara reade for one second?

There has been zero mention of them being under oath...answering questions doesn't mean you are under oath...boylan is all pissy that people are calling her and others liars..this must not be boosting her campaign like she wanted...yes I have not seen her or others say one time they understand the penalty for lying and they wouldn't since they are under oath...the only time they've been asked about going under oath they suddenly didn't want to cooperate with the impeachment hearings..once heastie signaled they would be brought in under oath they got cold feet not before that..they were ra ra about impeachment until heastie made that announcement...are you actually ok with boylan using this to try to boost herself and create a PAC trying to take out other democrats and being critical of Biden/Harris? I'm curious to know who you wanted before Biden won nomination

[pnwmom]

64. Answering questions under subpoena means you are under oath.

James's team has been issuing subpoenas for witnesses to appear, and then questioning them privately -- under oath. That's how it's done and what makes this different from a story someone tells a reporter, which is not under oath.

Attorney General James's team has NOTHING TO DO with the Cuomo-associated attorneys running their little impeachment side-show for the NY House leaders. So the fact that some witnesses may be reluctant to speak to the Cuomo-associates doesn't mean they're ignoring subpoenas from AG James, which could put them in jail.

New York Attorney General Letitia James has reportedly subpoenaed dozens of staffers to Governor Andrew Cuomo, including top aide Melissa DeRosa, for her investigation into allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior by the governor.

https://gothamist.com/news/report-ny-ag-subpoenas-dozens-cuomo-aides-sexual-harassment-investigation

Receiving a Subpoena
A subpoena is a court order for you to appear as a witness at a deposition or in court. Th e subpoena may also require that you bring certain documents with you. A lawyer issues a subpoena to make sure that you appear and testify. Do not ignore a subpoena since your failure to appear could place you in contempt of court.

SNIP

Giving Deposition Testimony

A deposition is one of the tools that lawyers use to investigate the strengths and weaknesses of both sides of a case. Th e deposition makes a record of your recollection of the facts at a time when they are relatively fresh in your mind.

SNIP

At a deposition, you testify under oath, under penalty of perjury. If later testimony at trial confl icts with your deposition testimony, you will have to explain why. For these reasons, the testimony that you give at a deposition is just as important as the testimony that you give at a trial.

https://www.odonnell-law.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/testifying.pdf

[caber09]

65. Where does it say the accusers are under oath?

I never said James hasn't subpoenaed anyone, you just proved my point they have been clear who has been under oath..cuomo's aides....and NO mention of boylan Bennett etc being under oath. Thank you for proving my point and deep sixing yours, you did a better job of shooting yourself in the foot than I could...thank you for proving me right and you wrong...and you keep calling the impeachment inquiry a sham..but they only refused to cooperate and called it a sham themselves after heastie said he would require THEM to also appear under oath...you still have haven't explained why they are afraid of going under oath..and why are they fraternizing with each other, deposed witnesses aren't supposed to communicate with each other let along discuss things over Twitter...more bad optics..if they were serious they'd file charges...so they won't file charges and won't testify under oath...what's the point of all this then? I am looking fwd to the impeachment inquiry subpoenaing boylan and co and them refusing..in fact I look fwd to Ag James putting them under oath and watching them try to wiggle out of it...again if they aren't filing charges this is all for nothing

[pnwmom]

68. Where does it say that ANY of AG James witnesses are not giving depositions under oath?

You can't seem to understand that the impeachment investigation Heastie is running has nothing to do with James's investigation.

They are willing to speak to AG James lawyers under oath. They aren't willing to participate in a parallel investigation run by attorneys connected to Cuomo.

And being serious doesn't require anyone to file charges.

[caber09]

70. You have only shown me that cuomo aides are under oath

Your own "proof" shows That cuomo aides are testifying under oath at NO point does anything say the accusers are under oath you have yet to show me anything that says they are under oath...but like I said they always say when witnesses are under oath like they do with the cuomo aides...if the accusers were answering under oath that would be mentioned as well...you aren't stupid so please stop saying that I'm saying the heastie investigation is the same as Ag James investigation..I am saying that they were all for impeachment UNTIL heastie said THEY would all have to be under oath too..then it became refusal to cooperate bec it was a sham...the minute they were expected to be under oath they changed their tune about cooperating

[pnwmom]

72. Most of the accusers either were or are aides of Cuomo's. The term "Cuomo aides"

includes women who worked or formerly worked for him and have made accusations.

[caber09]

74. Now you are purely making stuff up..

New York Attorney General Letitia James has reportedly subpoenaed dozens of staffers to Governor Andrew Cuomo, including top aide Melissa DeRosa, for her investigation into allegations of sexual harassment and inappropriate behavior by the governor.


They would specifically mention the accusers and not lump them in with former cuomo aides..you know this so please stop with the nonsense...and their lawyers in the statements would be very upfront about their clients being under oath..the fact that you cannot comprehend this shows you are just in denial..again I wish they'd put all doubt aside and file charges against him...what's stopping them if they are serious, don't half ass it, go all the way and file charges.

[pnwmom]

78. "They would specifically mention the accusers." Wrong. You have no basis for that

except for wishful thinking.

Many of the women making accusations are current or former staffers, so the large group called "staffers" includes that group of accusers.

Please link to a single statement by an attorney representing an accuser who says they refuse to testify to AG James team under oath, since you are so certain they exist. No one can prove a negative, but you can show me an example of what you're claiming exists. I've looked and can't find any attorney saying his client refuses to testify under oath in AG James's investigation.

[caber09]

79. Again please show me where it says the accusers are under oath..

We have seen in several articles that cuomo staffers have been answering under oath for the past month and ZERO mentions of the accusers being under oath and ZERO mentions from themselves or their lawyers citing that they've told their experiences under oath...In fact the only mention of the accusers being under oath is their refusal to do so in the impeachment inquiry. Again, you can deny it but this would be constantly reiterated by the accusers themselves or their lawyers...didn't Bennett's and boylans lawyers advise them not to go under oath after speaking with investigators? Some posters have mentioned that which would mean they haven't been under oath. Also they shouldn't be communicating with each other let alone volleying back and forth commenting on cuomo on Twitter or raising money off this at rallies. They seem to have their priorities wrong.

The burden is on you to prove what you are saying and you have failed thus far. When you find something that says they've been under oath please do share.

[Steelrolled]

66. That is what I thought

There were plenty of people from Cuomo's past who had no qualms about turning on him when the opportunity presented itself.

As the saying goes, revenge is a dish most satisfying when served cold.

[Cozmo]

38. My thoughts exactly

[JI7]

34. The women actually pictured with Biden defended him

[pnwmom]

17. Why is that significant? No one's said this was an assault. She said it was unwanted

and unbusinesslike and made her uncomfortable.

And it is her right to explain how it felt. She's supporting the other women and that's her right, too.

[Budi]

18. Just big enough to run it by Boylan & the press.

Other than that, it was really nothing to file a civil suit over, or not a bad enough assault to think he should resign, or keep proof of via a video, but just bad enough to hand the story to Boylan & the Press.

Riiiight. Got it.

[Demsrule86]

32. I think she lying getting her ten minutes of fame...possibly she is GOP too.

I don't believe a word.

[maxrandb]

33. And it's right for millions of New Yorkers who voted for him and support him

to explain how ignoring their votes would "feel".

Are we really doing this? Are we demanding resignations of politicians elected by an overwhelming majorities because of how someone "felt"?

If that's the case, I have a rather large list of Retrumplicans that make me "feel uncomfortable".

[Raine]

21. YUCK!! 🤢 🤮 nt

[Buckeye_Democrat]

22. Cheek-kissing in New York didn't go well...

... for Borat several years ago:

[George II]

24. They're doling these stories out once every week to ten days...

... just to keep this in the headlines.

Is that even Andrew Cuomo in that picture? And what did they use, a Brownie camera?

Come on folks.

[twodogsbarking]

25. Y'all seem sure he is innocent.

Interesting.

[AZLD4Candidate]

39. Accusations do not equal guilt. That's why there is due process

Most may be like me: Holding off on the crucifixion until after all the evidence and investigations are done.

Seems to me they tried to do this the the VA governor too a couple years back and it was discovered to be nonsense. Democrats were ready to run him out of town. It was much ado about nothing and was a political hatchet job.

A lot smell the same thing now.

[twodogsbarking]

48. All your words,

not mine. I am waiting to see how it plays out but I still find it interesting.

[kaotikross]

26. I'm not saying that

I'm not saying that every time the heat seems to be dying down and the GOP can't seem to budge Cuomo here comes another story, but..

[Scrivener7]

27. Mkay.

[Demsrule86]

30. Trashing this bullshit story.

[Jetheels]

40. Ok this is how my gramma kisses.

[Budi]

43. Mine did too! Rest her soul.

She was affectionate, sincere, and genuine.

This is such a trash story, that the more of this desperate reach to discredit is shoved out there, the whole Boylen omg! bs will be seen for what it always was.

I mean, even Repub Elise Stefanik is in on the game.
They're all fundraising! Weeee! $$$
Cuomo will win his 2022 Gov seat because this story is becoming more unbelievable, at this point.

Tara Reade!!

[Polybius]

67. He 100% won't be our nominee in 2022

Bookmark it.

[caber09]

69. Maybe, maybe not...

As a New Yorker I pray some far lefty from the AOC candidate pool doesn't win nomination because then trump gets what he wants an R gov who will pardon him.

[caber09]

76. Notice the answers...

To my grandma did/does this, hell my grandma and aunts did this to, Italians do this etc etc is...stomping feet and going..oh yeah oh yeah well he won't be nominee in 2022...the agenda is clear here

[greenjar_01]

55. They keep trying it, though!