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Omaha Steve

(99,573 posts)
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 08:55 AM Mar 2021

Video shows Asian American woman assaulted on NYC street

Source: AP

NEW YORK (AP) — An Asian American woman was attacked by a man who repeatedly kicked her in front of witnesses who seemingly stood by, according to surveillance footage released by the New York City Police Department.

The 65-year-old woman was walking in midtown Manhattan on Monday afternoon when a man came up to her and kicked her in the stomach, knocking her to the ground, the NYPD said.

The man then stomped on the woman’s face several times while hurling anti-Asian sentiments at her, police said. He later casually walked away, the footage shows.

The woman was hospitalized with serious injuries.



This image taken from surveillance video provided by the New York City Police Department shows a person of interest in connection with an assault of an Asian American woman, Monday, March 29, 2021, in New York. The NYPD is asking for the public's assistance in identifying the man. (Courtesy of New York Police Department via AP)


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/new-york-police-new-york-city-hate-crimes-crime-692b82db37efae29d12e7fa638eb2e1d

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Video shows Asian American woman assaulted on NYC street (Original Post) Omaha Steve Mar 2021 OP
I detest "person of interest" Miguelito Loveless Mar 2021 #1
Yeah, good point PatSeg Mar 2021 #34
There is no legal definition of the term. twodogsbarking Mar 2021 #36
Such a brave man. Must be proud of his ability to inflict pain on the elderly. Scum. Find him. Evolve Dammit Mar 2021 #2
They are saying that he is known in the neighboring. A homeless man. secondwind Mar 2021 #7
Sure looks sharp & well dressed for a homeless man oldsoftie Mar 2021 #8
So I have to ask.... TigressDem Mar 2021 #3
Here's the video if you'd like to see it. It looks just like dozens of other savage attacks oldsoftie Mar 2021 #5
thank you. Baitball Blogger Mar 2021 #18
Video shows shopkeeper(?) gently closing the door lildDemz Mar 2021 #26
I dont get that either. The attack is over; go HELP the poor woman! nt oldsoftie Mar 2021 #28
+1. NYPD got the footage from surveillance cameras. dalton99a Mar 2021 #27
The video shows only one man stomping on the woman. secondwind Mar 2021 #6
It continues to show an attack on the subway. TigressDem Mar 2021 #10
Probably Because RobinA Mar 2021 #31
these attackers llashram Mar 2021 #4
Here's the video... Princess Turandot Mar 2021 #9
Those guys inside watched and then closed their door IronLionZion Mar 2021 #12
That made me sick to my stomach. 58Sunliner Mar 2021 #15
BUT if it had been a white man.... would anyone be interested? TigressDem Mar 2021 #11
Let it go. eTXwLA Mar 2021 #13
Welcome to DU! KS Toronado Mar 2021 #14
What exactly do you think I am holding onto? TigressDem Mar 2021 #50
If it had been a white man....people would still be outraged KS Toronado Mar 2021 #16
As Adlai Stevenson reportedly said: "I need a majority" when told all intelligent people AZLD4Candidate Mar 2021 #17
WE would still be upset. Others, not so much. TigressDem Mar 2021 #44
What? LeftInTX Mar 2021 #21
That Ain't Over Yet COL Mustard Mar 2021 #30
I think even comparing this to the insurrection doesn't make sense LeftInTX Mar 2021 #33
It IS an example of HOW systemic it is to go after blacks and let whites get away with murder. TigressDem Mar 2021 #48
Yes. When someone does this, they need to be held accountable. Period. TigressDem Mar 2021 #45
I often think these stories get an inordinate amount of play on DU... LanternWaste Mar 2021 #42
I think DU is concerned about the victims. TigressDem Mar 2021 #46
The employees inside did NOTHING?!? AND then CLOSED the door?!? WTF?!? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #19
I wonder if the assailant is known to them and they didn't want him coming in? LeftInTX Mar 2021 #35
No race has a monopoly on virtue. All are human. Marcuse Mar 2021 #20
Has anyone argued otherwise? LanternWaste Mar 2021 #43
Crazy thing is, we ARE ONLY ONE RACE - the HUMAN RACE. TigressDem Mar 2021 #49
What a low life scum. Denvermosaic Mar 2021 #22
I agree rockfordfile Mar 2021 #38
I hope they catch the suspect and he does serious prison time rollin74 Mar 2021 #23
store closes door, notice that! godfree2 Mar 2021 #24
What's wrong with people? LeftInTX Mar 2021 #25
My guess? Two possiblilities - mental illness, or he's a professional agent provocateur. (Nt) FreepFryer Mar 2021 #29
Oh please. This has been happening all over. how about a RACIST? oldsoftie Mar 2021 #39
K (nt) FreepFryer Mar 2021 #40
Just googled, "Is Racism a mental illness?" One source says, "Yes" TigressDem Mar 2021 #51
Well now every defense lawyer has a handy excuse for the trial oldsoftie Mar 2021 #53
Yeah, but NOT classifying it as a mental illness means "It's NORMAL behavior." TigressDem Mar 2021 #54
But classifying a view, however wrong, as a mental illness? Then where does it stop? oldsoftie Mar 2021 #55
NOT THE VIEW. The EXTREME BEHAVIORS that result at the top of the scale. TigressDem Mar 2021 #56
Kinda like blaming "it was stolen" for losing an election instead of admitting you LOST! oldsoftie Mar 2021 #58
Why aren't ALL murders considered insane? TigressDem Mar 2021 #59
So, Dylan Roof was just suffering from "mental illness" and "delusional behavior"? jcmaine72 Apr 2021 #60
OR ... BOTH nt TigressDem Mar 2021 #52
Or, just spitballing here, Another possibility sarisataka Mar 2021 #57
How dare you employ Occam's Razor and infuse some logic here! jcmaine72 Apr 2021 #61
Another video: dalton99a Mar 2021 #32
If I'd been there with a gun... SpankMe Mar 2021 #37
You are spot on. oldsoftie Mar 2021 #41
At least go out and comfort her, tell her you are getting help. TigressDem Mar 2021 #47

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
3. So I have to ask....
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:11 AM
Mar 2021

Is this person "of interest" because he's the only black person on video in the vicinity of a crime?

Or did someone actually see this guy attack the woman?


Just asking?


secondwind

(16,903 posts)
6. The video shows only one man stomping on the woman.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:27 AM
Mar 2021

I’m not saying this is the man. But the fella in the video wore some sort of bright white fabric.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
10. It continues to show an attack on the subway.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:47 AM
Mar 2021

I can see why they think it's this guy...

The jacket is light and in bright sunlight it would show as white and he also has some sort of red sash hanging down and you can see a dark sash in the first part of the video.


I just have a bit of suspicion about "suspects" presented because often they are very inaccurate.


RobinA

(9,888 posts)
31. Probably Because
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 12:44 PM
Mar 2021

he looks pretty much like the large black man in a white top carrying a bag who actually kicked the woman. Not that there's no one else it could have been.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
4. these attackers
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:25 AM
Mar 2021

are inexcusably ignorant and need to be put away for a very long time. What cowards. This viciousness is caused because trump pointed to Asia and China as the original "patient zero" breeding ground of Covid-19? I am sick to death over this turn of events in American culture. Why this hate for Asians? By POC and in these cases shown here hate from AA? Why? No excuse.

I do truly hate trump for grievously hurting this country and dividing us. And while Americans are doing this to Americans, the hate mongers in marred-de-largo are planning more mischief and mayhem...to keep us divided and hating each other.

Princess Turandot

(4,787 posts)
9. Here's the video...
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:36 AM
Mar 2021

It's from the lobby of the building at the location. The attack occurred outside on the street. It's pretty graphic, so you may not want to look at it.

The guy's about three times the victim's size.



This video just shows the subject walking. (The victim isn't in the video.)


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
11. BUT if it had been a white man.... would anyone be interested?
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 09:51 AM
Mar 2021

All those creeps that stormed into the capitol 1/6 and killed an officer maimed, wounded and killed others, but NOTHING TO SEE THERE, just some white folks letting off steam....


I KNOW all kinds of people do bad things and each should be held accountable for their behavior.


I just think there should be a bit of reverse delay to judgement when it happens to be someone of color, just as a balance of PRESUMED INNOCENT until proven guilty DOES APPLY.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
50. What exactly do you think I am holding onto?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:15 AM
Mar 2021

I AM actually "letting go" of my preconceived notions that when they see a black person committing a crime that THAT IS A CRIME whereas if a white person does the same or worse it is NOT A CRIME because they can afford a good lawyer, find a way to bend rules and be perceived as somehow LESS destructive even when they KILL someone....

I am in Minneapolis with the whole Derek Chauvin trying to get his charge down to 3rd degree.... what is that anyway? Is Chauvin makin the plea.... "Well, I was there and the guy died, but I didn't really think about it much even though my knee was on his neck for over 5 minutes... maybe more but I wasn't keeping track."

Anyone who breaks the law, assaults someone like this should really be brought to justice.

I'm not blind or stupid or thinking that black people never do awful things.


I simply think they get a lot more air time and pushed to the front while the whites are tucked away unless they do it in a sensational way. Even then, take Georgia dude who shot up 3 different salons and killed 8 Asian women. The sheriff is all "understanding" that the guy was "just having a bad day".

Really? And how many times have you gone and shot up random people when YOU had a bad day, Sheriff?


I guess at this point I just can't UNSEE White Privilege any more.


Does that make sense?


KS Toronado

(17,189 posts)
16. If it had been a white man....people would still be outraged
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:00 AM
Mar 2021

Large man attacking smaller woman unprovoked and yelling racist names at her, intelligent people are upset
when we see this in our country.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
44. WE would still be upset. Others, not so much.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:02 PM
Mar 2021

But the racist folk would assume somehow by just being Asian, she had provoked the altercation and deserved what she got.

These racist folk beat their own women and their church tells them to take the beatings and be a good wife so it doesn't happen again.

All I am saying is that senator who said he wasn't afraid of white folk storming the capitol, but if it had been BLM he would have been are putting out the false narrative that ALL black people are scary.

These black men who are beating on Asians not only shame themselves, but betray the whole attempt to get America up out of the gutter.

AND there have been many cases where people have been ID'd but it was just wrong place wrong time, but conveniently black in the vicinity of a crime.

THE JERK WHO HURT THAT WOMAN SHOULD BE BROUGHT TO JUSTICE. I just don't want to see any innocent person brought in and presumed guilty.



LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
21. What?
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:56 AM
Mar 2021

I believe this guy is wanted for assault. We don't know who he is. He has not been tried.

The FBI has been putting out wanted posters for the insurrectionists. They have been charged. Of course, they aren't being charged with what we want them charged with, but I figured it would end up that way.

COL Mustard

(5,896 posts)
30. That Ain't Over Yet
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 12:38 PM
Mar 2021

Start with lesser charges to get them in the system, then depending on what the investigation shows, more charges may follow...more serious charges.

LeftInTX

(25,224 posts)
33. I think even comparing this to the insurrection doesn't make sense
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 12:53 PM
Mar 2021

Although most of the 1/6 mob have white privilege..and if they had been black, the national guard, military, bureau of prisons, Eric Prince mercenaries would have been out in full force on 1/6. If they had been black, they would have never made it into the Capitol grounds.

Unfortunately, there is also a "mob rule" defense with 1/6. ("The doors were open. The police let us in. This is a public building. I didn't know it was closed to the public" ) For instance, Jenny Cudd broke in to and grabbed something from Nancy Pelosi's office. As much as I would like to have seen her thrown in jail, because pf her attitude, she committed a property crime and didn't assault anyone.


Anyone who assaulted anyone at the Capitol needs to be charged with assault and they are being charged with assault.


But what's going on in this video is an assault. It isn't planned.

It's apples and oranges type thing.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
48. It IS an example of HOW systemic it is to go after blacks and let whites get away with murder.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:57 PM
Mar 2021

The guy in the video, whatever race he is or for whatever reason he hurt that woman, needs to be arrested and charged and sentenced for his crime.

But all the excuses that are made for whites doing the same thing blows my mind.


SEE this article for example. The author is simply saying "these acts of violence against Asian Americans happened".

SHE does NOT mention race. BUT a commenter automatically defends the one known to be white by saying the author ONLY called out the white person when "blacks" do it too.


https://www.paloaltoonline.com/blogs/p/2021/03/19/my-thoughts-on-the-anti-asian-attacks


IT IS SO HARD WIRED for people to defend whites against being labeled as "racist" when they go and commit crimes against people in a manner that is OBVIOUSLY hate filled Xenophobia that they SEE the attack when it hasn't even happened.


The race of each victim was mentioned, but none of the offenders was labeled.

The author was simply saying THIS REALLY HAPPENS.







TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
45. Yes. When someone does this, they need to be held accountable. Period.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:25 PM
Mar 2021

What bothers me is how the white aggressors are being shielded, cops (Chauvin who killed George Floyd etc...) and the average white guy going off on someone on the street.


IF you look at the FBI statistics for HATE CRIME....

52.5% of Hate Crime offenders were white, BUT WHO GETS ALL THE AIR TIME????


Blacks.

Because that is the false narrative... only Blacks are dangerous. When it is a white person against an Asian person, I am not seeing race mentioned. We KNOW they are fanning the flames, but they are also out there doing the deeds. Just see if you can find a video of any white person beating up an Asian or the mention in a specific incident of the race of the offender being white. I searched, and people were suspects, but no race mentioned and they try to say it isn't a hate crime.


It is the sneaky AF systemic nature of how these crimes are being used to "prove" that "blacks" are the bad guys ALL the time by controlling the perception and keeping the race of white perpetrators on the down low.

At least, that is how it appears to me. I could be wrong.



https://www.justice.gov/hatecrimes/hate-crime-statistics


Of the 6,406 known offenders:

52.5% were White
23.9% were Black or African American
14.6% race unknown

Other races accounted for the remaining known offenders.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
42. I often think these stories get an inordinate amount of play on DU...
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 07:53 PM
Mar 2021

as it allows the opportunity for a small but consistent subset of posters to say (in so many words of an alleged sincerity) "see!!! it's not just whypipo doing this!!!"

Not that I'm saying that's the actual case... only that, based on observation of consistency in patterns, I truly believe it to be the case,

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
46. I think DU is concerned about the victims.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:37 PM
Mar 2021

The problem is that the systemic reporting slants toward showing blacks as being violent.

Remember how they "defended" that white punk who shot up Asian ladies because he was "having a bad day"?


https://www.opensocietyfoundations.org/voices/a-history-of-anti-asian-hate-in-the-united-states


The WAY things are reported out there happens to affect the source material we have to work with.


I don't think it means anyone on DU thinks that only whites or only blacks commit hate crimes. BUT WE SEE that more blacks go to prison for violent offenses. This perception that allows whites to get some sort of break in these situations where blacks are just shot on sight is systemic and been pushed for so many years by the haters from behind the scenes.

I never knew HOW systemic these things were in the Police Department until George Floyd. I THOUGHT, "When there is a bad cop doing this kind of thing, they get taken off the force because the police investigate when someone dies in custody." I didn't realize how deeply corrupt the Union was even if the rest of the department is trying to make changes.


I am seeking to question how entrenched the media is in showing blacks as the violent bad guys when there are whites with guns on killing sprees that get sympathy despite leaving multiple innocent dead people in their wake.


HOW blinded the White Reich is that they HAVE TO BELIEVE that mass murders at schools of little children is some lie made up by the left to get gun control regulation passed.


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
49. Crazy thing is, we ARE ONLY ONE RACE - the HUMAN RACE.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:04 AM
Mar 2021

Sure, a lot of variety within, but we are all human and need to be more humane to one another.


Of course, genetically we not only have a lot in common with each other, but all the way down the scale to the lowly cockroach....


https://www.premierpestprevention.com/striking-similarity-humans-cockroaches/


Cockroaches can be "racist" too.


Go figure.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
39. Oh please. This has been happening all over. how about a RACIST?
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 06:42 PM
Mar 2021

NO ONE charged has been shown to be anything but a violent predator.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
51. Just googled, "Is Racism a mental illness?" One source says, "Yes"
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:22 AM
Mar 2021
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC1071634/

Is Extreme Racism a Mental Illness?

Yes

It can be a delusional symptom of psychotic disorders

Alvin F Poussaint, Professor of psychiatry


((( WHILE the DSM still hasn't classified it as such..... )))


To continue perceiving extreme racism as normative and not pathologic is to lend it legitimacy. Clearly, anyone who scapegoats a whole group of people and seeks to eliminate them to resolve his or her internal conflicts meets criteria for a delusional disorder, a major psychiatric illness.


Extreme racists' violence should be considered in the context of behavior described by Allport in The Nature of Prejudice.2 Allport's 5-point scale categorizes increasingly dangerous acts. It begins with verbal expression of antagonism, progresses to avoidance of members of disliked groups, then to active discrimination against them, to physical attack, and finally to extermination (lynchings, massacres, genocide). That fifth point on the scale, the acting out of extermination fantasies, is readily classifiable as delusional behavior.


TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
54. Yeah, but NOT classifying it as a mental illness means "It's NORMAL behavior."
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:36 AM
Mar 2021

It technically is still NOT classified, but there is a call to begin to address these issues and get people to understand that at least the offenses that cross the line and are injurious to others are WRONG not just toward the people they attack but for their own minds.

We are approaching an escalation toward a tipping point where so many will have these racist views that THEY will become THE NORM and tolerant people THE DEVIATION.

Then what? WW3 concentration camps? They practically have them at the border and it's taking huge resources to undo that.

I don't think any of this shit is silly.

HOWEVER it needs to be done to STOP this senseless violence and allow us to progress as a society, it needs to be done.


oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
55. But classifying a view, however wrong, as a mental illness? Then where does it stop?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:48 AM
Mar 2021

You dont want to get a vaccine because you think they're dangerous? Mentally ill
You own 4 guns? Mentally ill
It can be a long list & at some point it might include something YOU believe.

I'm sorry, but going this route also excuses it & will result in weaker prison terms for violent people. Hate is not a mental illness. People who have a mental illness that causes them to harm someone, those people usually will harm ANYONE regardless of race.

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
56. NOT THE VIEW. The EXTREME BEHAVIORS that result at the top of the scale.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:25 AM
Mar 2021

Allport's 5-point scale categorizes increasingly dangerous acts.

It begins with verbal expression of antagonism,
progresses to avoidance of members of disliked groups,
then to active discrimination against them, to physical attack,
and finally to extermination (lynchings, massacres, genocide).
That fifth point on the scale, the acting out of extermination fantasies, is readily classifiable as delusional behavior.


People can believe all sorts of things and still be civilized about it.


Where someone's "rights" end is at the tip of their neighbor's nose. Throw the punch and it is assault.


The thing about racism that is crazy is the CORE BELIEF that someone ELSE is responsible for ONES OWN PROBLEMS.


IF a person won't take responsibility for their own behaviors, constantly blames others and begins to believe the only way to fix their life is eliminate "that problem" they are NOT solving their REAL problems.

MURDER is still murder but do we lock them up with the general population or put them in wards for the CRIMINALLY INSANE?







TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
59. Why aren't ALL murders considered insane?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:39 PM
Mar 2021

What is more crazy than thinking you have the right to end another person's life other than in pure self defense?

BUT I guess my hope is that we get to the bottom of some of this crazy racist crap and pull it out by the roots.

Sure people gotta be held accountable, even if they are just following Stupid and shoot everyone on their way to walking off a cliff like a bunch of lemmings. But being a lemming is self destructive, stupid AND crazy.

What really struck me about how racism is viewed as insanity is BECAUSE people think someone else is the reason their life sucks.


And I get it. I have felt the burden of living in tRump World these past 4 years. Sure felt like he made our lives hell ON purpose.

But EVEN if all the tRumpers disappeared, I realize that whatever MY problems are, they are still mine to solve. To me that is the sign of a rational mind, a mature person.

Blaming others solves nothing.

Killing others to feel better about yourself is pure D crazy.

A murderer does NOT make themselves better at all. It's why we lock them up and throw away the key in many cases.

Imho

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
60. So, Dylan Roof was just suffering from "mental illness" and "delusional behavior"?
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:31 AM
Apr 2021

If so, that means legally he wasn't responsible for his behavior and should not have been prosecuted as someone who was. That sounds a lot like the argument some white supremacist groups were making at the time.

"Acting out of extermination fantasies, is readily classifiable as delusional behavior."


All I'll say about this particular gem is thank the god of leather jackboots and Zyklon B that you weren't alive and serving as legal counsel for any of the Nazi war criminals brought to justice at the Nuremberg trials. The last thing the survivors of the Holocaust would have needed to hear was how their tormentors and murderers were merely the hapless victims of their own mental illness and resultant delusions, and that, therefore, using that logic, not responsible for the genocidal acts they committed during the war.

Unless your real name David Duke, you might want to re-think this rather flawed argument.

sarisataka

(18,570 posts)
57. Or, just spitballing here, Another possibility
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:25 AM
Mar 2021

Is he could be a murderer out on parole. You know just a generally evil person.

jcmaine72

(1,773 posts)
61. How dare you employ Occam's Razor and infuse some logic here!
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 04:45 AM
Apr 2021

I mean, why use reason to connect the dots from Point A to Point B when employing polysyllabic psychobabble and pseudo-scientific flapdoodle makes us feel so much smarter and compassionate?

SpankMe

(2,957 posts)
37. If I'd been there with a gun...
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 02:44 PM
Mar 2021

I'd have shot the guy.

Fuck him, and fuck the unbelievable assholes inside the building who watched, and then closed the door after the event with the woman still lying on the street.

The management company of the building released a statement saying they temporarily suspended the employees and would "investigate" their actions saying they'd have to consult with those employees' union.

I'm as pro-organized labor as the next lib. But, if the union stands behind those heartless fools on this, then I really have to evaluate my feelings toward unions. Protecting labor rights, fighting for fair pay and good working conditions, job security - I'm all for it.

But when unions protect clearly unsavory behavior reflexively, I come down a notch with union support.

Here's my guess...the union will defend the employees saying they didn't want to intervene for their own safety. "The was no lack of empathy there. They just don't know what the perp is capable of or what weapons he may have."

Risk-taking for someone being victimized violently in real time is apparently not a thing any more. Chivalry is, indeed, dead.

oldsoftie

(12,523 posts)
41. You are spot on.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 06:46 PM
Mar 2021

And if they WERE to make that statement, whats the excuse for not helping the woman after the savage LEAVES?

But in NYC i wonder if you would've been charged if you HAD shot the guy. But i doubt a jury would convict you after seeing that video

TigressDem

(5,125 posts)
47. At least go out and comfort her, tell her you are getting help.
Tue Mar 30, 2021, 11:42 PM
Mar 2021

And my Uncle one time had to go to court because he caught some man raping a woman in an alley and whomped the shit out of him.

He didn't go to jail, but he DID have to go to court. The went after him for "over doing" it.

Couldn't really blame him though. He had to make sure the guy stayed down until the police could get there.

Wasn't like now where you can take a video, call the police AND kick his ass with the right selfie stick.



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