Some Capitol riot suspects apologize as consequences sink in
Source: The Associated Press
By JACQUES BILLEAUD and MICHAEL TARM
2 hours ago
PHOENIX (AP) The helmet-wearing Idaho man photographed dangling by one hand from the Senates balcony during the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol turned himself in six days later. While buckled in the vehicle delivering him to the Boise jail, Josiah Colt made a video apologizing and expressing shame for storming the building.
Jacob Chansley, the self-described QAnon Shaman who posed for photos on the Senate dais while sporting face paint and a furry hat with horns, also lacks the enthusiasm he once showed for the riot. A month later, he wrote an apology from jail, asking for understanding as he was coming to grips with his actions.
Confronted with compelling video and photographic evidence in court, dozens of rioters have apologized and expressed regret as the consequences of their actions have started to sink in. The ramifications include potential job losses, financial ruin and possible time behind bars.
This is going to have consequences for these people for the rest of their lives and it should, said John Flannery, a former federal prosecutor and Capitol Hill lawyer.
Read more: https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-politics-phoenix-idaho-3bbabae61323f77b0af3102497c0ede9
Scrivener7
(50,934 posts)Lock them up.
smb
(3,471 posts)soldierant
(6,836 posts)to testify against Trump**, Junior, Giuliani, and the rest?
If so, I don't mind knocking off a LITTLE of their sentences.
Fullduplexxx
(7,851 posts)Probably advice from some lawyer. Fk your crocodile tears.
apnu
(8,750 posts)ret5hd
(20,489 posts)tonekat
(1,812 posts)It's been on my mind lately and I was too lazy to search for it.
Laha
(407 posts)Thanks for the giggle. And then there was much rejoicing.
Hugh_Lebowski
(33,643 posts)joetheman
(1,450 posts)FailureToCommunicate
(14,012 posts)He had wished for only the best and brightest insurrectionist dirt bags.
tanyev
(42,541 posts)Maxheader
(4,371 posts)so do murderers, extortionists....
kiri
(794 posts)What are their out-of-pocket costs? Most will have public defenders, paid by taxpayers. When they are brought back to DC for a hearing, their flight is paid for by the government. The defendants also get paid a per diem to cover meals and lodging, I believe.
They may lose a few days pay. Some have had to post bail. Except for those paying personal lawyers, it has not been very expensive for them so far, I believe.
druidity33
(6,445 posts)are facing YEARS in prison. Do you think this is a free vacation for them?
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3Hotdogs
(12,364 posts)I mean, FUCK ME! Not their guns. That's too much for a patriot to have to bear.
greenjar_01
(6,477 posts)He seemed to have gathered almost immediately that the whole thing had gone sideways for his side.
But as a reminder, this guy DROVE to DC from Idaho so that he could bring firearms with him. He is pictured on one of his co-conspirators Instagram sleeping in a bed with a handgun in Memphis two days before the attack on the Capitol. He almost certainly had a firearm in his backpack (why else drive). He was wearing a helmet and street fighting tactical gear. He drove across the country to do violence and engage in insurrection/sedition against the government and people of the United States of America.
He realized within hours that the coup had failed, and that he was a member of a failed coup. He seemed to know that members of failed coups don't have good outcomes, so he began minimizing his involvement in video on the very day of January 6.
Josiah Colt conspired with others to commit riot and sedition and should face the consequences for that. He engaged in overt acts in furtherance of that conspiracy, including a drive literally from Idaho to Washington DC. It's truly unbelievable.
llashram
(6,265 posts)the mentality is no excuse for trying, wanting to hang people trying to lead this nation away from the precipice of hate encouraged and enabled by a hateful, power-mad narcissistic petty potus. These people gleefully killed people and injured over a hundred more.
God may forgive, I cannot ever forget.
csziggy
(34,135 posts)To attack our seat of government during the process to certify the election of our next president.
There is a lot of evidence that many of them planned to disrupt if no destroy our Congress - why else did many of them dress for battle and some of them bring guns?
llashram
(6,265 posts)no doubt you are correct. Hangings in the old south created this type of picnic now tailgate mob atmospere is one reference to mob mentality I am making as an analogy. Those sorry for being a part of the 1/6/2021 coup attempt? I don't care. They were making a statement of ill intent. The seat of our national, federal government was attacked by coordinated armed lethal deadly individuals who were waiting/agitating to engage in armed conflict and treason. Treason and sedition because they were also looking for government leadership individuals to execute, House Speaker Pelosi and others come to mind.
So please don't misunderstand my intent in my response.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)The dude from Idaho drove all the way across the United States to be there. He had plenty of time to ponder the probable consequences of his actions, which would have been obvious to anyone with even half a brain.
To insult me is not necessary. I apologized for using the wrong description.
Dave Starsky
(5,914 posts)It's just that I've been hearing this dodge a lot, even from bleeding heart liberals in my own family. "Caught up in a mob mentality." Nope. These people had every opportunity to consider the reckless stupidity of what they were even thinking of doing.
Paladin
(28,246 posts)We'll let you know when you can stop.
modrepub
(3,493 posts)But that doesn't mean it has to be given. The apologies should be directed to the people who were actually physically hurt and mentally accosted
Bo Zarts
(25,392 posts)Corollary: There are no atheists in foxholes.
Botany
(70,483 posts)... then into the senate chamber. Josiah Colt fuck him. He chose to pollute his brain with Fox, News Max,
Rush, QAnon, Infowars, and so on.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Five fatalities, many more injured some permanently disabled.
Sedition has consequences.
Rhiannon12866
(205,074 posts)ananda
(28,856 posts)Certainly not on this planet.
bringthePaine
(1,727 posts)czarjak
(11,266 posts)McKim
(2,412 posts)If there are no serious consequences for this, others will try it in the future. Fascism is always lurking and could grow again. We must draw a line that we are a country of laws!!!
world wide wally
(21,739 posts)CaptainTruth
(6,582 posts)LudwigPastorius
(9,127 posts)disenfranchisement should be the starting point of punishment for attempting to overthrow our democratically-elected government.
They tried to void our legal votes, so theirs should be permanently nullified.
meow2u3
(24,761 posts)They're showing no remorse for what they actually did, only for getting caught trying to overthrow the government. My hemorrhoids really bleed for them.
Rabrrrrrr
(58,347 posts)"Ooooh, I wouldn't have stormed the capitol and participated in an insurrection if I knew I'd get caught! Oh, boo hoo, how can I be treated this way? I didn't expect consequences. Oh, boo hoo. Woe is me. This is all very unfair for me. I had no idea. Boo hoo."
Fuck you. Fuck you a million times. Enjoy prison.
I have no compassion for these violent stains, and the law should show no compassion on them.
It's weird, I was never particularly patriotic - not in a jingoistic, flag-waving rah rah way, anyway, and never to the extent that I thought the US was God's greatest nation ever, though I always thought we had a pretty damn good system of laws and freedoms (however imperfectly we live them out) - but misuse of the US flag has always pissed me off; and the insurrection has **really** pissed me off. My anger toward these anti-patriotics has been at a level that I didn't think I achieve in terms of relating to patriotism. And quite honestly, as much as I abhor the death penalty, there's a part of me that's perfectly fine with executing traitors. I wish I knew where that came from - I've been meditating on it for two months, and still am not really sure.
But maybe forty years of seeing Christianity used for such evil intent via the Republican party, and then four years of Trump and the Christian Right so blatantly showing the world that they actually have no values at all except power for the sake of power and have absolutely no scruples in still claiming to be Christian, and then all of it naturally turning into a violent insurrection... perhaps that was the straw on the camel's back for me. They aren't entertaining any more; they aren't just outsiders dilly dallying and being weird but harmless; they aren't just a small group of nothings that mean nothing - they're now a nation-wide wide movement and dangerous as hell, so maybe lopping off a few heads (metaphorically) is what's needed.
ThatJustHappened
(78 posts)Lock Them Up!
Lock Them Up!
Lock Them Up!
usajumpedtheshark
(672 posts)Scalded Nun
(1,236 posts)Throw away the key.
No one ever expects any consequences for their actions, especially the party of personal responsibility.
Let other would-be insurrectionists know what to expect. To do anything less invites repeated behavior.
Lonestarblue
(9,963 posts)They will pay the price for believing lies that were disproved over and over by numerous court cases and legitimate media. Unfortunately, the man lying and encouraging them to commit crimes will most likely never be held accountable for his actions, so while his followers rot in jail, Trump will be at Mar-a-Lago eating chocolate cake and cheating at golf.
Jay25
(417 posts)PhylliPretzel
(140 posts)These insurrectionists are damn lucky they live in a nation of laws and courts. In many other countries, they would have met with instant death and life-long consequences for their families.
ThatJustHappened
(78 posts)And if you ever talk with these idiots they go on and on about how the US is a Police State.
Then in the next breath they jack off about Putin.
They wouldn't know a Police State if it bit them in the ass.
All because they can't stand living in the 21st century and the moral arc of the universe from regressiveness to progressiveness.
And the blame for all their disturbed dysfunction -- their ignorance and anti-knowlege and science denial and radicalization -- can be laid at the feet of the three Abrahamic God Delusions. Just like ISIS.
What they really want is no laws, all their guns, and safe passage back to the pre-Renaissance 13th century.
turbinetree
(24,688 posts)NQAS
(10,749 posts)That they got caught.
Are there gangs in federal prison? If so, itll be interesting to see whom they affiliate with.
BobTheSubgenius
(11,562 posts)...as easily as they seem to have reached the bottom strata. There are guilty parties all the way up and down the food chain.
LiberalFighter
(50,836 posts)Jay25
(417 posts)being shamed publicly for their actions. I think the 2 connected to the officers death and the one sitting in Pelosis chair will face time, not sure of the others. I hope so, just not sure.
Postal Grunt
(214 posts)What were they thinking and what did they expect when they were were posting videos of themselves during their insurrection? Maybe they thought that chronicling their behavior would bring them accolades for being the vanguard of the "Stop the steal!" movement. What they never considered is that those same posts could be evidence of their own criminal and immature behavior. Obviously they haven't studied Shakespeare but they're going to learn about being hoisted on their own petard.
We should be grateful when those clowns are removed from donating to the human gene pool.
bucolic_frolic
(43,118 posts)You have to be very very dumb not to understand that storming the site of our democracy would have consequences. They knew you couldn't do it at the local Walmart. What made the Capitol different? You followed a cult leader? Why did you listen to him? Republicans preach individualism and personal responsibility. But not applicable when insurrection is at hand? They gambled, they took risks, they had all the time on their hands to do this, and they did it. Don't let them off the hook. Make them pay just like every other citizen would.
MarcA
(2,195 posts)it gets real, then showing they have no honor they lie and beg
to keep their fortunes and keep their lives out of prison.
Takket
(21,550 posts)Lock them all up for as long as the law allows.
C Moon
(12,212 posts)Don't feel sorry for them, they were trying to overthrow the U.S.and I believe they would do it again.
Grokenstein
(5,721 posts)ffr
(22,667 posts)Their death cult killed people. Saying you are sorry, like an adolescent, for helping to kill people and threaten to lynch other elected officials doesn't change the fact that you were part of the mob that killed people and threaten to lynch other elected officials.
Suffer the consequences of your actions as the adult your age makes you a part of.
Throw them in jail until they figure that part out.
IcyPeas
(21,856 posts)Lisa0825
(14,487 posts)Along with the other lawsuits, such as brought by covid victims' families.
jmowreader
(50,549 posts)Exactly how did Mr. Colt have the ability to make a video while he was in the back of a police car? Don't they usually put you in handcuffs while you're being transported to jail?
Hassler
(3,370 posts)Skittles
(153,138 posts)more proof how fucking STUPID these Trump humping repukes truly are
GulfCoast66
(11,949 posts)Apologies if I duplicate. But Im pissed
In almost every failed coup attempt in human history those who failed regretted it. Yeah, for trying it but more for failure.
And in ever case, including the Lincoln assignation, by this point every participant and those who encouraged them would already have been hanged and buried in unmarked graves.
Grant you, Im glad we dont do that anymore. Im against capital punishment. But they are fucking lucky our country is not currently like they want to make it. Otherwise they would have swung on a rope.
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,863 posts)Now they realize they've been used.
pfitz59
(10,344 posts)rot in hell
Kashkakat v.2.0
(1,752 posts)incitement to riot is a crime, why is the cult leader not on trial?