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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:55 AM Mar 2021

Some Capitol riot suspects apologize as consequences sink in

Source: The Associated Press


By JACQUES BILLEAUD and MICHAEL TARM
2 hours ago

PHOENIX (AP) — The helmet-wearing Idaho man photographed dangling by one hand from the Senate’s balcony during the Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol turned himself in six days later. While buckled in the vehicle delivering him to the Boise jail, Josiah Colt made a video apologizing and expressing shame for storming the building.

Jacob Chansley, the self-described QAnon Shaman who posed for photos on the Senate dais while sporting face paint and a furry hat with horns, also lacks the enthusiasm he once showed for the riot. A month later, he wrote an apology from jail, asking for understanding as he was coming to grips with his actions.

Confronted with compelling video and photographic evidence in court, dozens of rioters have apologized and expressed regret as the consequences of their actions have started to sink in. The ramifications include potential job losses, financial ruin and possible time behind bars.

“This is going to have consequences for these people for the rest of their lives — and it should,” said John Flannery, a former federal prosecutor and Capitol Hill lawyer.


Read more: https://apnews.com/article/capitol-siege-politics-phoenix-idaho-3bbabae61323f77b0af3102497c0ede9

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Some Capitol riot suspects apologize as consequences sink in (Original Post) DonViejo Mar 2021 OP
I'm sure lots of criminals express remorse when they face the consequences for their actions. Scrivener7 Mar 2021 #1
I'm Sure They're All Very Very Sorry... That They GOT CAUGHT nt smb Mar 2021 #28
Are they sorry enough soldierant Mar 2021 #54
Oj Bullshit they're just trying to get the judicial system to go easy on them Fullduplexxx Mar 2021 #2
Reminds me of that kid at Charlottesville who tore off his Nazi outfit in 2017. apnu Mar 2021 #45
Apropos of nothing, for some reason this clip popped into my head: ret5hd Mar 2021 #3
Thanks for posting that! tonekat Mar 2021 #25
That is actually delightfully appropriate Laha Mar 2021 #26
I know every word to that song ... both stanzas ... by heart lol (nt) Hugh_Lebowski Apr 2021 #61
Wimps and cowards. Trump never apologizes, don't they know that. Their leader is unhappy with them. joetheman Mar 2021 #4
Trump's displeasure with how low class the protestors appeared holding true? FailureToCommunicate Mar 2021 #9
They're very sorry they got arrested and indicted. tanyev Mar 2021 #5
meh..suffering the consequences? Maxheader Mar 2021 #6
What are their out-of-pocket costs? kiri Mar 2021 #51
Many of those charged druidity33 Apr 2021 #62
This message was self-deleted by its author DiamondShark Apr 2021 #68
The fuck of it all, they may not be able to own guns anymore. That sucks bigly. 3Hotdogs Mar 2021 #53
Colt was apologizing even before he was arrested greenjar_01 Mar 2021 #7
getting caught up in a mob llashram Mar 2021 #8
These people didn't get caught up in a mob - they planned to create a mob csziggy Mar 2021 #19
no argument here llashram Mar 2021 #43
"Caught up in a mob", my ass. Dave Starsky Apr 2021 #63
#43 llashram Apr 2021 #65
No insult intended. Sorry about that. Dave Starsky Apr 2021 #66
Not good enough. Continue fucking yourselves. Paladin Mar 2021 #10
They Can Ask For Forgiveness modrepub Mar 2021 #11
Foxhole conversions. Bo Zarts Mar 2021 #12
This guy drove 3,380 miles from Idaho to D.C. to do this after breaking into the US Capitol and ... Botany Mar 2021 #13
Tell it to those who never went home on Jan 6 Fritz Walter Mar 2021 #14
+1000 Rhiannon12866 Mar 2021 #15
They were living in cloud ququ land ananda Mar 2021 #16
ha more "thoughts and prayers" bullshit! NO MERCY - MAXIMUM LAWFUL PENALTIES bringthePaine Mar 2021 #17
"This American Carnage" czarjak Mar 2021 #18
If There are No Consequences..... McKim Mar 2021 #20
Some will lose their right to vote, ironically world wide wally Mar 2021 #21
And their right to own guns. CaptainTruth Mar 2021 #27
I know that bit is up to the States, but... LudwigPastorius Mar 2021 #49
Capitol insurrectionists are only sorry they have to suffer the consequences of their crimes meow2u3 Mar 2021 #22
All the real snowflakes wear MAGA hats. Rabrrrrrr Mar 2021 #23
USA! USA! USA! ThatJustHappened Mar 2021 #24
And the politicians will escape punishment usajumpedtheshark Mar 2021 #29
Lock.Every.One.Up. Scalded Nun Mar 2021 #30
The sad thing about these people is their ignorance and support of a liar. Lonestarblue Mar 2021 #31
A willful ignorance. Jay25 Mar 2021 #36
Lucky to be in the USA PhylliPretzel Mar 2021 #32
Yep ThatJustHappened Mar 2021 #34
Lock Them Up, Fuck Them ............you do the "CRIME" you do the TIME... turbinetree Mar 2021 #33
But their biggest regret? NQAS Mar 2021 #35
Let's see if these consequences can reach all the way to the top of the insurrection plotters... BobTheSubgenius Mar 2021 #37
Apology not accepted. Pay the price. LiberalFighter Mar 2021 #38
They would willingly follow Trump again, if called to action. I just hope their punishment isn't Jay25 Mar 2021 #39
What we're they thinking? Postal Grunt Mar 2021 #40
Ruh-roh ... been caught. Time to reverse whine bucolic_frolic Mar 2021 #41
They play patriot pledging their lives, fortunes and honor Until MarcA Mar 2021 #42
No aid or comfort for terrorists that want to destroy America Takket Mar 2021 #44
This is nothing new: Republicans apologize and say "I'm sorry" ONLY after they are caught. C Moon Mar 2021 #46
Just imagine the tune they'd be singing if they'd succeeded. Grokenstein Mar 2021 #47
Unfortunately, it won't bring back the police officers lives that were lost ffr Mar 2021 #48
these jerks should sue trump too IcyPeas Mar 2021 #50
I LOVE this idea! :-) Lisa0825 Mar 2021 #56
absolutely! Nutella Apr 2021 #60
Next question jmowreader Mar 2021 #52
The Cos-play patriots suddenly discover the Capitol insurrection wasn't a game Hassler Mar 2021 #55
how could trying to overthrow the government go so terrible WRONG?? Skittles Mar 2021 #57
For one of the few times I have not read the other responses before responding. GulfCoast66 Mar 2021 #58
They thought Donny was going to bail them out Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 #59
Apologies not accepted pfitz59 Apr 2021 #64
IMHO this only confirms the degree to which they were incited to riot by the cult leader - since Kashkakat v.2.0 Apr 2021 #67

Scrivener7

(50,934 posts)
1. I'm sure lots of criminals express remorse when they face the consequences for their actions.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:56 AM
Mar 2021

Lock them up.

soldierant

(6,836 posts)
54. Are they sorry enough
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 05:39 PM
Mar 2021

to testify against Trump**, Junior, Giuliani, and the rest?

If so, I don't mind knocking off a LITTLE of their sentences.

Fullduplexxx

(7,851 posts)
2. Oj Bullshit they're just trying to get the judicial system to go easy on them
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 08:57 AM
Mar 2021

Probably advice from some lawyer. Fk your crocodile tears.

Laha

(407 posts)
26. That is actually delightfully appropriate
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:36 AM
Mar 2021

Thanks for the giggle. And then there was much rejoicing.

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
9. Trump's displeasure with how low class the protestors appeared holding true?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:18 AM
Mar 2021

He had wished for only the best and brightest insurrectionist dirt bags.

kiri

(794 posts)
51. What are their out-of-pocket costs?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 02:29 PM
Mar 2021

What are their out-of-pocket costs? Most will have public defenders, paid by taxpayers. When they are brought back to DC for a hearing, their flight is paid for by the government. The defendants also get paid a per diem to cover meals and lodging, I believe.

They may lose a few days pay. Some have had to post bail. Except for those paying personal lawyers, it has not been very expensive for them so far, I believe.

Response to kiri (Reply #51)

3Hotdogs

(12,364 posts)
53. The fuck of it all, they may not be able to own guns anymore. That sucks bigly.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 02:51 PM
Mar 2021

I mean, FUCK ME! Not their guns. That's too much for a patriot to have to bear.

 

greenjar_01

(6,477 posts)
7. Colt was apologizing even before he was arrested
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:15 AM
Mar 2021

He seemed to have gathered almost immediately that the whole thing had gone sideways for his side.

But as a reminder, this guy DROVE to DC from Idaho so that he could bring firearms with him. He is pictured on one of his co-conspirators Instagram sleeping in a bed with a handgun in Memphis two days before the attack on the Capitol. He almost certainly had a firearm in his backpack (why else drive). He was wearing a helmet and street fighting tactical gear. He drove across the country to do violence and engage in insurrection/sedition against the government and people of the United States of America.

He realized within hours that the coup had failed, and that he was a member of a failed coup. He seemed to know that members of failed coups don't have good outcomes, so he began minimizing his involvement in video on the very day of January 6.

Josiah Colt conspired with others to commit riot and sedition and should face the consequences for that. He engaged in overt acts in furtherance of that conspiracy, including a drive literally from Idaho to Washington DC. It's truly unbelievable.

llashram

(6,265 posts)
8. getting caught up in a mob
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:15 AM
Mar 2021

the mentality is no excuse for trying, wanting to hang people trying to lead this nation away from the precipice of hate encouraged and enabled by a hateful, power-mad narcissistic petty potus. These people gleefully killed people and injured over a hundred more.

God may forgive, I cannot ever forget.

csziggy

(34,135 posts)
19. These people didn't get caught up in a mob - they planned to create a mob
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:12 AM
Mar 2021

To attack our seat of government during the process to certify the election of our next president.

There is a lot of evidence that many of them planned to disrupt if no destroy our Congress - why else did many of them dress for battle and some of them bring guns?

llashram

(6,265 posts)
43. no argument here
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:49 PM
Mar 2021

no doubt you are correct. Hangings in the old south created this type of picnic now tailgate mob atmospere is one reference to mob mentality I am making as an analogy. Those sorry for being a part of the 1/6/2021 coup attempt? I don't care. They were making a statement of ill intent. The seat of our national, federal government was attacked by coordinated armed lethal deadly individuals who were waiting/agitating to engage in armed conflict and treason. Treason and sedition because they were also looking for government leadership individuals to execute, House Speaker Pelosi and others come to mind.

So please don't misunderstand my intent in my response.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
63. "Caught up in a mob", my ass.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 05:31 AM
Apr 2021

The dude from Idaho drove all the way across the United States to be there. He had plenty of time to ponder the probable consequences of his actions, which would have been obvious to anyone with even half a brain.

Dave Starsky

(5,914 posts)
66. No insult intended. Sorry about that.
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 09:43 AM
Apr 2021

It's just that I've been hearing this dodge a lot, even from bleeding heart liberals in my own family. "Caught up in a mob mentality." Nope. These people had every opportunity to consider the reckless stupidity of what they were even thinking of doing.

modrepub

(3,493 posts)
11. They Can Ask For Forgiveness
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:27 AM
Mar 2021

But that doesn't mean it has to be given. The apologies should be directed to the people who were actually physically hurt and mentally accosted

Botany

(70,483 posts)
13. This guy drove 3,380 miles from Idaho to D.C. to do this after breaking into the US Capitol and ...
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:45 AM
Mar 2021

... then into the senate chamber. Josiah Colt fuck him. He chose to pollute his brain with Fox, News Max,
Rush, QAnon, Infowars, and so on.


Fritz Walter

(4,291 posts)
14. Tell it to those who never went home on Jan 6
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:49 AM
Mar 2021

Five fatalities, many more injured — some permanently disabled.


Sedition has consequences.

McKim

(2,412 posts)
20. If There are No Consequences.....
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:14 AM
Mar 2021

If there are no serious consequences for this, others will try it in the future. Fascism is always lurking and could grow again. We must draw a line that we are a country of laws!!!

LudwigPastorius

(9,127 posts)
49. I know that bit is up to the States, but...
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 02:15 PM
Mar 2021

disenfranchisement should be the starting point of punishment for attempting to overthrow our democratically-elected government.

They tried to void our legal votes, so theirs should be permanently nullified.

meow2u3

(24,761 posts)
22. Capitol insurrectionists are only sorry they have to suffer the consequences of their crimes
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:29 AM
Mar 2021

They're showing no remorse for what they actually did, only for getting caught trying to overthrow the government. My hemorrhoids really bleed for them.

Rabrrrrrr

(58,347 posts)
23. All the real snowflakes wear MAGA hats.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:30 AM
Mar 2021

"Ooooh, I wouldn't have stormed the capitol and participated in an insurrection if I knew I'd get caught! Oh, boo hoo, how can I be treated this way? I didn't expect consequences. Oh, boo hoo. Woe is me. This is all very unfair for me. I had no idea. Boo hoo."

Fuck you. Fuck you a million times. Enjoy prison.

I have no compassion for these violent stains, and the law should show no compassion on them.

It's weird, I was never particularly patriotic - not in a jingoistic, flag-waving rah rah way, anyway, and never to the extent that I thought the US was God's greatest nation ever, though I always thought we had a pretty damn good system of laws and freedoms (however imperfectly we live them out) - but misuse of the US flag has always pissed me off; and the insurrection has **really** pissed me off. My anger toward these anti-patriotics has been at a level that I didn't think I achieve in terms of relating to patriotism. And quite honestly, as much as I abhor the death penalty, there's a part of me that's perfectly fine with executing traitors. I wish I knew where that came from - I've been meditating on it for two months, and still am not really sure.

But maybe forty years of seeing Christianity used for such evil intent via the Republican party, and then four years of Trump and the Christian Right so blatantly showing the world that they actually have no values at all except power for the sake of power and have absolutely no scruples in still claiming to be Christian, and then all of it naturally turning into a violent insurrection... perhaps that was the straw on the camel's back for me. They aren't entertaining any more; they aren't just outsiders dilly dallying and being weird but harmless; they aren't just a small group of nothings that mean nothing - they're now a nation-wide wide movement and dangerous as hell, so maybe lopping off a few heads (metaphorically) is what's needed.

Scalded Nun

(1,236 posts)
30. Lock.Every.One.Up.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:46 AM
Mar 2021

Throw away the key.

No one ever expects any consequences for their actions, especially the party of personal responsibility.

Let other would-be insurrectionists know what to expect. To do anything less invites repeated behavior.

Lonestarblue

(9,963 posts)
31. The sad thing about these people is their ignorance and support of a liar.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:49 AM
Mar 2021

They will pay the price for believing lies that were disproved over and over by numerous court cases and legitimate media. Unfortunately, the man lying and encouraging them to commit crimes will most likely never be held accountable for his actions, so while his followers rot in jail, Trump will be at Mar-a-Lago eating chocolate cake and cheating at golf.

PhylliPretzel

(140 posts)
32. Lucky to be in the USA
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:50 AM
Mar 2021

These insurrectionists are damn lucky they live in a nation of laws and courts. In many other countries, they would have met with instant death and life-long consequences for their families.

 

ThatJustHappened

(78 posts)
34. Yep
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:19 AM
Mar 2021

And if you ever talk with these idiots they go on and on about how the US is a Police State.

Then in the next breath they jack off about Putin.

They wouldn't know a Police State if it bit them in the ass.


All because they can't stand living in the 21st century and the moral arc of the universe from regressiveness to progressiveness.


And the blame for all their disturbed dysfunction -- their ignorance and anti-knowlege and science denial and radicalization -- can be laid at the feet of the three Abrahamic God Delusions. Just like ISIS.

What they really want is no laws, all their guns, and safe passage back to the pre-Renaissance 13th century.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
35. But their biggest regret?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:25 AM
Mar 2021

That they got caught.

Are there gangs in federal prison? If so, it’ll be interesting to see whom they affiliate with.

BobTheSubgenius

(11,562 posts)
37. Let's see if these consequences can reach all the way to the top of the insurrection plotters...
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:41 AM
Mar 2021

...as easily as they seem to have reached the bottom strata. There are guilty parties all the way up and down the food chain.

Jay25

(417 posts)
39. They would willingly follow Trump again, if called to action. I just hope their punishment isn't
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 11:46 AM
Mar 2021

being shamed publicly for their actions. I think the 2 connected to the officers death and the one sitting in Pelosi’s chair will face time, not sure of the others. I hope so, just not sure.

Postal Grunt

(214 posts)
40. What we're they thinking?
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:10 PM
Mar 2021

What were they thinking and what did they expect when they were were posting videos of themselves during their insurrection? Maybe they thought that chronicling their behavior would bring them accolades for being the vanguard of the "Stop the steal!" movement. What they never considered is that those same posts could be evidence of their own criminal and immature behavior. Obviously they haven't studied Shakespeare but they're going to learn about being hoisted on their own petard.

We should be grateful when those clowns are removed from donating to the human gene pool.

bucolic_frolic

(43,118 posts)
41. Ruh-roh ... been caught. Time to reverse whine
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:18 PM
Mar 2021

You have to be very very dumb not to understand that storming the site of our democracy would have consequences. They knew you couldn't do it at the local Walmart. What made the Capitol different? You followed a cult leader? Why did you listen to him? Republicans preach individualism and personal responsibility. But not applicable when insurrection is at hand? They gambled, they took risks, they had all the time on their hands to do this, and they did it. Don't let them off the hook. Make them pay just like every other citizen would.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
42. They play patriot pledging their lives, fortunes and honor Until
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 12:21 PM
Mar 2021

it gets real, then showing they have no honor they lie and beg
to keep their fortunes and keep their lives out of prison.

Takket

(21,550 posts)
44. No aid or comfort for terrorists that want to destroy America
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 01:25 PM
Mar 2021

Lock them all up for as long as the law allows.

C Moon

(12,212 posts)
46. This is nothing new: Republicans apologize and say "I'm sorry" ONLY after they are caught.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 01:41 PM
Mar 2021

Don't feel sorry for them, they were trying to overthrow the U.S.—and I believe they would do it again.

ffr

(22,667 posts)
48. Unfortunately, it won't bring back the police officers lives that were lost
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 01:44 PM
Mar 2021

Their death cult killed people. Saying you are sorry, like an adolescent, for helping to kill people and threaten to lynch other elected officials doesn't change the fact that you were part of the mob that killed people and threaten to lynch other elected officials.

Suffer the consequences of your actions as the adult your age makes you a part of.

Throw them in jail until they figure that part out.

jmowreader

(50,549 posts)
52. Next question
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 02:48 PM
Mar 2021

Exactly how did Mr. Colt have the ability to make a video while he was in the back of a police car? Don't they usually put you in handcuffs while you're being transported to jail?

Skittles

(153,138 posts)
57. how could trying to overthrow the government go so terrible WRONG??
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 09:52 PM
Mar 2021

more proof how fucking STUPID these Trump humping repukes truly are

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
58. For one of the few times I have not read the other responses before responding.
Wed Mar 31, 2021, 10:10 PM
Mar 2021

Apologies if I duplicate. But I’m pissed

In almost every failed coup attempt in human history those who failed regretted it. Yeah, for trying it but more for failure.

And in ever case, including the Lincoln assignation, by this point every participant and those who encouraged them would already have been hanged and buried in unmarked graves.

Grant you, I’m glad we don’t do that anymore. I’m against capital punishment. But they are fucking lucky our country is not currently like they want to make it. Otherwise they would have swung on a rope.

Kashkakat v.2.0

(1,752 posts)
67. IMHO this only confirms the degree to which they were incited to riot by the cult leader - since
Thu Apr 1, 2021, 11:38 AM
Apr 2021

incitement to riot is a crime, why is the cult leader not on trial?

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