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Tue Apr 6, 2021, 11:54 AM

Fears of White People Losing Out Permeate Capitol Rioters' Towns, Study Finds

Source: New York Times/Todays Global Media

April 6, 2021

When the political scientist Robert Pape began studying the issues that motivated the 380 or so people arrested in connection with the attack against the Capitol on Jan. 6, he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession.

But instead he found something very different: Most of the people who took part in the assault came from places, his polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture.

If Mr. Pape’s initial conclusions — published on Tuesday in The Washington Post — hold true, they would suggest that the Capitol attack has historical echoes reaching back to before the Civil War, he said in an interview over the weekend. In the shorter term, he added, the study would appear to connect Jan. 6 not only to the once-fringe right-wing theory called the Great Replacement, which holds that minorities and immigrants are seeking to take over the country, but also to events like the far-right rally in Charlottesville, Va., in 2017 where crowds of white men marched with torches chanting, “Jews will not replace us!”

“If you look back in history, there has always been a series of far-right extremist movements responding to new waves of immigration to the United States or to movements for civil rights by minority groups,” Mr. Pape said. “You see a common pattern in the Capitol insurrectionists. They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.”

Read more: https://todaysglobalmedia.com/politics/fears-of-white-people-losing-out-permeate-capitol-rioters-towns-study-finds/



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DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
marble falls Apr 2021 #1
dalton99a Apr 2021 #9
Lonestarblue Apr 2021 #14
marble falls Apr 2021 #16
JI7 Apr 2021 #27
soothsayer Apr 2021 #2
nuxvomica Apr 2021 #24
LaMouffette Apr 2021 #3
Delmette2.0 Apr 2021 #17
DanieRains Apr 2021 #19
not fooled Apr 2021 #21
LaMouffette Apr 2021 #30
pidge Apr 2021 #4
DonViejo Apr 2021 #8
LanternWaste Apr 2021 #35
pidge Apr 2021 #39
pandr32 Apr 2021 #5
Grins Apr 2021 #6
Collimator Apr 2021 #15
Grins Apr 2021 #7
nycbos Apr 2021 #10
Mysterian Apr 2021 #28
BumRushDaShow Apr 2021 #11
DownriverDem Apr 2021 #12
hibbing Apr 2021 #13
betsuni Apr 2021 #34
bucolic_frolic Apr 2021 #18
Evolve Dammit Apr 2021 #20
Hmongliberal Apr 2021 #22
oasis Apr 2021 #38
MarcA Apr 2021 #23
The Mouth Apr 2021 #25
intheflow Apr 2021 #26
summer_in_TX Apr 2021 #37
BadGimp Apr 2021 #29
Skittles Apr 2021 #31
BobTheSubgenius Apr 2021 #32
Name removed Apr 2021 #33
Random Boomer Apr 2021 #36

Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:00 PM

1. Mostly people who live in towns with little or no minorities to speak of.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 01:38 PM

9. +1

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:22 PM

14. Actually, the WaPo article cited Texans in areas that had seen the most loss of white residents.

Texas had around 36 people I think who attacked the Capitol. Several of them were from Collin County north of Dallas that had seen more minorities moving into their neighborhoods. I can only surmise that the insurrectionists get angry when they see minorities moving into their neighborhoods because it means those same minorities can afford the same housing they can, which puts them on equal footing—and that’s the source of resentment.

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Response to Lonestarblue (Reply #14)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:31 PM

16. I will bet VERY few of those arrested see any minorities that aren't watching their kids, ...

... cleaning their house, landscaping their yards, cooking their food (and they may never see those people except for busboys). Not exactly "living with 'them'".

I have family all over Texas, including Dallas/Ft Worth, and I live just west of Austin. I got a pretty good handle on Texans.

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Response to marble falls (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 04:05 PM

27. Not true, many were from liberal cities in California and other places

liberal areas tend to have high populations so even a small percentage of Republicans there outnumber Republicans in red areas.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:01 PM

2. The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.

The old world is dying, and the new world struggles to be born: now is the time of monsters.
- Antonio Gramsci

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Response to soothsayer (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 03:42 PM

24. You just gave me some insight into the new Netflix series "The Irregulars"

I hadn't considered that it was an allegory for the anti-democratic wave challenging liberal democracies today. In the story, a rip in the barrier between our world and other dimensions has appeared somewhere in Victorian London. Otherwise sane people start acting crazy and violent, and the cognizant, like Holmes and Watson, often refer to the arrival of monsters to our world.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:14 PM

3. They don't realize immigrants are just scapegoats used by the real culprits, the rich and powerful,

to keep the bottom 99 percent of us from noticing the great crimes and injustices of unregulated capitalism run amok.

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Response to LaMouffette (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:35 PM

17. +1

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Response to LaMouffette (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:38 PM

19. Bingo But Add Religion

To the toxic brew.

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Response to LaMouffette (Reply #3)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:59 PM

21. Yes, great point

most white 'Muricans have much more in common with other workers--of any color or origin--than the rich 'puke politicians who pander to them. That's what the rich and powerful are so desperate to keep all of them from realizing. "Rugged individualism" and racism play right into their strategy.

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Response to not fooled (Reply #21)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 05:10 PM

30. My mind is permanently blown that Tycoon Trump was able to convince his supporters that

he is one of them.

I guess all he had to do was give them people and institutions to hate (immigrants, Jewish folks, Black folks, Muslim folks, and, of course, all Democrats [especially the Obamas, Nancy Pelosi, and Chuck Schumer], all liberals, and any news media that dared to convey any negative stories about Dear Leader), and they were like putty in his hands.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:22 PM

4. What does this have to do with The New York Times ?

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Response to pidge (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 01:16 PM

8. The NYT is the original source of the article. Which was then picked up and published by...

Todays Global Media

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Response to pidge (Reply #4)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 06:30 PM

35. Just don't ask us to thank Trump...

Again.

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Response to LanternWaste (Reply #35)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:24 PM

39. Huh ?

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:34 PM

5. I urge people to read "Democracy in Chains" by Nancy MacLean

The best I've read that explains this problem from before the Civil War to now in a very readable way. It had been recommended once on Obama's reading list and so I nabbed it, and wow!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:38 PM

6. It is the history and #1 dogma of conservatism...

“If someone gets anything that must mean I have less.”

And “anything” includes property, voting, equal opportunity, etc. See professor Corey Robins’ books on conservatism, who goes into far more detail.

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Response to Grins (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:29 PM

15. The language of scarcity.

To some people it is not just money and housing and tangible resources that are scarce, even love and status are part of a zero sum game.

God forbid some black person should be allowed to walk around free in this country and even achieve something with their life, 'cause somehow that mean less respect for me.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 12:44 PM

7. IF....

“...he expected to find that the rioters were driven to violence by the lingering effects of the 2008 Great Recession” he was under a self-inflicted delusion.

The “lingering effects” from 2008 was prosperity. Even the mango-demagogue said so.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 01:59 PM

10. "If you can convince the lowest white man...

... he is better than the best colored man he won't notice you picking his pockets."

- LBJ

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Response to nycbos (Reply #10)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 04:18 PM

28. That's why Fox "News" exists

To help the ruling class stay in total control by convincing the gullible among the working class that scary minorities, foreigners and liberals are the enemy.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:08 PM

11. I expect many of their families only came here

after the Civil War and later, including all the Ellis Island ones during the early 20th century.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:12 PM

12. As a white person

I abhor white repub trumpers. I do all I can to make sure folks know I am not one of them.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:12 PM

13. The most naive man in the world award goes to Robert Pope

I mean really, come on. His whole campaign and presidency was based on racism from day one, I saw it, everyone here saw it and we are still dealing with this false narrative about "economic anxiety".


Peace

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Response to hibbing (Reply #13)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 06:28 PM

34. Seriously. Obvious.

Embarrassing that anyone's still believed the "economic anxiety" thing.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:37 PM

18. It makes sense

Most populations, and rurals in particular, remain in the same locale, generally, for many generations if not hundreds of years. So they are to an extent cultural enclaves with values that are unchanging.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:42 PM

20. Knuckle draggers and tongue chewers don't have Rush anymore. The anger has been 35 years in making.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 02:59 PM

22. I'm Asian...

Hmong American Asian, to be exact. And I am a first generation college grad attorney. My people didn’t ask to come here. But when America was in deep with the Cold War and stuck its nose in what was going on during Vietnam, she came calling to my people. We were content living in the highland hills of Laos minding our business. But we also believed in freedom and liberty; and thus agreed to take up arms in support of America and her cause. The Hmong were heroic and did a damn good job fighting the communist during Laos’ secret war. Don’t Fucking say my people didn’t bleed and die for America, cause we did. And when America pulled out, we were persecuted and butchered like animals. So we had to come. And when we arrived, White folks said we needed to learn their ways, speak english, get jobs, pay taxes, etc, etc. And so we did all that. And now some Whites are using the excuse that we’ve become too successful? That we are gonna take over? WTF, is all I have to say. We don’t want to take over. We are all a part of this experiment called humanity, and at the end if the day, we just want what the majority of sound minded people want in this country. That’s all.

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Response to Hmongliberal (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:07 AM

38. Welcome to DU.

Thank you for sharing that moving story.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 03:30 PM

23. Basically Plantation Mentality. Everyone in their place. n/t

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 03:53 PM

25. 'When You're Accustomed to Privilege, Equality Feels Like Oppression'

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 04:05 PM

26. Jesus I wish someone would fund me to come to such a blatantly obvious conclusion.

Everyone is on about economic insecurity, but as I've said since 45's election, it's the racism, Stupid!

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Response to intheflow (Reply #26)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 09:53 PM

37. Yeah, but the academic studies that show things have their place.

Defining what's going on correctly when there are competing rational explanations perhaps keeps the problem-solvers from going off track. And maybe it helps us keep folks from trying on excuses that are just distractions from the truth.

Seems to me, anyway.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 04:39 PM

29. Anthropologically speaking it's called "Racial resentment", not Racisim.

"polling and demographic data showed, that were awash in fears that the rights of minorities and immigrants were crowding out the rights of white people in American politics and culture."

How dare those people try to become equal to me!

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 05:28 PM

31. white fear of losing their coveted status is what fuels REPUBLICANS

that's why fear and ignorance WORKS on them

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 05:30 PM

32. Is everyone gobsmacked that the insurrection, at its core, was about race?

Coulda knocked me over with a hammer.

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Response to DonViejo (Original post)

Tue Apr 6, 2021, 06:40 PM

36. I'm okay with this

They are mainly middle-class to upper-middle-class whites who are worried that, as social changes occur around them, they will see a decline in their status in the future.


Yeah, I have no problem with this at all.

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