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riversedge

(70,182 posts)
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:25 PM Apr 2021

Rep. Matt Gaetz Sought Preemptive Pardon From Donald Trump: NYT

Source: yahoo.com


Tue, April 6, 2021, 7:08 PM·1 min read


In the twilight of Donald Trump’s administration, Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-FL) sought a preemptive pardon for any crimes he and his allies in Congress may have committed, The New York Times reports.

Gaetz is currently under federal investigation for potential sex trafficking in connection with an alleged relationship with a 17-year-old girl. The Department of Justice is also probing whether Gaetz paid multiple women for sex on various visits to Florida alongside his close ally Joel Greenberg, the now indicted former Seminole County tax collector. Gaetz has denied the allegations.

It is unclear if Gaetz or Trump knew of the investigation into the Florida congressman, but the White House declined anyway, believing a priori forgiveness would establish an unseemly precedent, according to the Times.

Read more at The Daily Beast.






Read more: https://news.yahoo.com/rep-matt-gaetz-sought-preemptive-000847343.html



well well. well.



Breaking NYT: In the final weeks of Trump's term, Matt Gaetz privately asked the White House for blanket pre-emptive pardons for himself and unidentified congressional allies for any crimes they may have committed.

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Skittles

(153,138 posts)
3. LOL
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 08:57 PM
Apr 2021

since WHEN was the Trump White House concerned about setting an "unseemly precedent"? Imagine how toxic Gaetz must be for a self-professed PUSSY GRABBER to find him distasteful.

COL Mustard

(5,889 posts)
5. For All We Know, He Got One
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 10:27 PM
Apr 2021

I don't think there's any requirement for a public disclosure of a Presidential pardon, so maybe G***z has one from T***p and is keeping it under wraps. Either one is sleazy enough to do that.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
10. Verification of an undisclosed pardon
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:41 AM
Apr 2021

That's a conundrum.

You can write a check on a piece of paper. A bank might accept it, probably will since they suspect something's amiss, then hold it for verification, some corroborating evidence, and investigate such.

If a fake pardon were presented in court .... ?

I'd like to think, and do think, courts would be skeptical and hold to real substantiating evidence. But these days .... with politicized judiciary ... ? Who knows.

COL Mustard

(5,889 posts)
14. Good Point. Prove It's A Fake Pardon
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:59 PM
Apr 2021

How would you? Both Gaetz and T***p are sleazy enough to do it and stick to their story.

keithbvadu2

(36,724 posts)
7. ElderBush already set that precedent when he pardoned Casper Weinberger and several others for unspe
Tue Apr 6, 2021, 11:11 PM
Apr 2021

ElderBush already set that precedent when he pardoned Casper Weinberger and several others for unspecified crimes.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,168 posts)
16. A totally open ended pardon for all future crimes just seems it must be unconstitutional
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 04:21 PM
Apr 2021

I suppose if it was more specific. "Any charges in relation to child sex trafficking"

Maybe that was the rub. No pun intended. 1. Gaetz thought Trump would steal another term. 2. He didn't want it to get out that he had a pocket pardon for an underage sex crime. 3. He, like many on the right, think they are invincible, and above the dirty white trash that support them.

lonely bird

(1,685 posts)
8. Trump's White House thought an a priori pardon would be unseemly???
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:53 AM
Apr 2021

When did Trump’s White House think anything was unseemly?

Donnie boy simply did what he always did. He kicked Gaetz to the curb when he had no more use for him.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
11. I take that to be a no
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:42 AM
Apr 2021

Pocket pardons would be held until useful, then attempted to be rushed through the court. And they wouldn't be secret if we knew about them.

Gidney N Cloyd

(19,831 posts)
12. If Gaetz got a pardon then couldn't he be compelled to testify against others?
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:45 AM
Apr 2021

And if Trump and Gaetz are both involved with the statutory rape situation you can see why Trump's lawyers would advise against pardoning.

Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin

(107,859 posts)
13. Now Trumpy is saying he never asked for a pardon
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 12:15 PM
Apr 2021
Trump denies Gaetz asked for blanket pardon

Former President Donald Trump on Wednesday denied that Rep. Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.) directly asked him for a blanket pardon, and appeared to defend the congressman amid allegations of sexual misconduct.

"Congressman Matt Gaetz has never asked me for a pardon," Trump said in a statement. "It must also be remembered that he has totally denied the accusations against him."

The New York Times reported on Tuesday that Gaetz asked White House officials for blanket pre-emptive pardons for himself and other congressional allies of Trump. The Times noted that it was not clear whether Gaetz directly addressed the matter with Trump, though aides were said to have relayed the request.

Gaetz - one of the former president's most vocal allies in Congress - is reportedly the subject of a Department of Justice (DOJ) investigation into an alleged inappropriate relationship with a minor and a possible violation of sex trafficking laws.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-denies-gaetz-asked-for-blanket-pardon/ar-BB1foqjf?li=BBnb7Kz

He didn't do anything I wouldn't do - Donald Trump

PSPS

(13,584 posts)
15. LOL "a priori forgiveness would establish an unseemly precedent"
Wed Apr 7, 2021, 03:46 PM
Apr 2021

In other words, Gaetz couldn't come up with the cash.

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