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Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:02 PM

G.O.P. Group Warns of 'Defector' List If Donors Uncheck Recurring Box

Source: New York Times

The political arm of House Republicans is deploying a prechecked box to enroll donors into repeating monthly donations — and using ominous language to warn them of the consequences if they opt out: “If you UNCHECK this box, we will have to tell Trump you’re a DEFECTOR.”

The language appears to be an effort by the National Republican Congressional Committee to increase its volume of recurring donations, which are highly lucrative, while invoking former President Donald J. Trump’s popularity with the conservative base. Those donors who do not proactively uncheck the box will have their credit cards billed or bank accounts deducted for donations every month.

The prechecked box is the same tactic and tool that resulted in a surge of refunds and credit card complaints when used by Mr. Trump’s campaign last year, according to an investigation published by The New York Times over the weekend. The Trump operation made the language inside its prechecked boxes increasingly opaque as the election neared. Consumer advocates and user-interface designers said the prechecked boxes were a “dark pattern” intended to deceive Mr. Trump’s supporters.

The Trump operation issued more than $122 million in refunds in the 2020 cycle, which was 10.7 percent of what Mr. Trump’s campaign, the Republican National Committee and their shared accounts raised. Refunds increased as the campaign began prechecking the boxes, which at one point withdrew donations every week as well as introduced a “money bomb” that doubled a contribution.

Read more: https://www.nytimes.com/2021/04/07/us/politics/republicans-donations-trump.html



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Reply G.O.P. Group Warns of 'Defector' List If Donors Uncheck Recurring Box (Original post)
teach1st Apr 7 OP
bluestarone Apr 7 #1
SoCalDavidS Apr 7 #11
RVN VET71 Apr 7 #26
mac2766 Apr 8 #37
brush Apr 8 #49
cloudbase Apr 7 #2
Bristlecone Apr 7 #19
sop Apr 7 #3
unweird Apr 7 #17
LakeArenal Apr 7 #4
Justice matters. Apr 7 #36
LakeArenal Apr 8 #42
aggiesal Apr 7 #5
Wingus Dingus Apr 7 #6
SWBTATTReg Apr 7 #7
ancianita Apr 8 #40
SWBTATTReg Apr 8 #46
ancianita Apr 8 #47
machoneman Apr 7 #8
bringthePaine Apr 7 #9
Eugene Apr 7 #10
BumRushDaShow Apr 7 #12
Captain Zero Apr 7 #27
Sucha NastyWoman Apr 7 #13
keithbvadu2 Apr 7 #14
NH Ethylene Apr 7 #16
NCjack Apr 7 #34
monkeyman1 Apr 7 #15
Escurumbele Apr 7 #18
rpannier Apr 7 #20
birdographer Apr 7 #21
oasis Apr 7 #22
bahboo Apr 7 #23
Pepsidog Apr 7 #24
rickyhall Apr 7 #25
calimary Apr 7 #28
cstanleytech Apr 7 #29
elleng Apr 7 #30
monkeyman1 Apr 7 #31
Mickju Apr 7 #32
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Martin68 Apr 7 #35
Kid Berwyn Apr 8 #38
mac2766 Apr 8 #39
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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:04 PM

1. WOW! THIS in it self would make a person

Tell them to GO TO HELL!!!!

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:57 PM

11. You're Giving The MORONS Way Too Much Credit

When they read that their Cult Leader will learn of their defection, they'll be sure that box stays checked.
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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:37 PM

26. To be fair, Bluestarone said it would make "a person"

tell them to go to hell, a person, not a moronic Trumpist cypher without enough sense to know when they’re being abused -- or, perhaps, who just like being abused.

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Response to SoCalDavidS (Reply #11)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:42 AM

37. Understand who you may be calling "MORONS"

Just like telemarketing scams, this may be a scam that is targeting older people who watch Fox "news". I generally give a pass to elderly people who, to be fare, in their time didn't have to endure the constant barrage of scamming techniques being used today. While they are probably either less informed or mis-informed about quite a few things, they certainly don't need to be called a moron. A more constructive approach might be that we help them become better informed, or that we push to have changes made that will limit the amount of mis-information being broadcast on Fox "news" and hateful talk radio broadcasts.

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Response to bluestarone (Reply #1)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:36 PM

49. I know, right? What are they thinking? Because of that, many won't...

donate at all. That's borderline extortion as it implies, no, it promises that if a donor doesn't continue to donation something bad will happen to them.

That party is becoming out-and-out criminal.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:06 PM

2. Better than being defective. n/t

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Response to cloudbase (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:07 PM

19. Knowing these clowns, that's what they meant and they misspelled it.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:06 PM

3. What'll they do, send you to a gulag?

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Response to sop (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:54 PM

17. Stop, that'll encourage them

They would like to able to banish those of us they consider the others.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:10 PM

4. Oh gosh to be a trump defector. Sounds about right.

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Response to LakeArenal (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 11:27 PM

36. I hope they'll defecate.

Defecate meaning: Discharge feces from the body.

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Response to Justice matters. (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 11:02 AM

42. Maybe at the sentencing hearings. 25Years maskholes.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:10 PM

5. Here's more rope. GQP, please continue with this course of action n/t

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:15 PM

6. LOL, what kind of idiot responds to this sort of thing?

I think they know their idiots, actually.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:18 PM

7. These thugs are using their time honored business practices of fake universities, fake rump steaks,

fake fancy hotels, and now, donating to a fake national party, called the republican party, forever!

It was a nice touch too, to threaten donors too, with regards to their choices on these in-house, republican created, distributed to no one else but republican party entities, that if they didn't chose the box/choice to endlessly donate forever until said donor died or passed away or unchecked the box, resulting in multiple donations not intended originally by donors, that these same donors would be considered to have went over to the dreaded 'Dems'!

This elegant and ongoing ripoff, authored by only the one and only, donald j trumpt (who else?)!

These guys are nothing but crooks.

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #7)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 08:39 AM

40. Yep, good way to look at it -- the old time honored racketeering, now brought to campaigns.

No matter how dressed up crooks are, they're still mafia, the time honored henchmen of fascism. For those who recognize it, racketeering is never elegant.

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Response to ancianita (Reply #40)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:57 PM

46. Well put, well put! The new crooks of America, made valid by the likes of rump. I hope that

one day, these thugs are taken down a notch, and they're doing a fine job of taking themselves down, they've lost the House, lost the Senate, lost the presidency, and lost the respect of most Americans. The only one standing are those supporting the moronic djt. I can't wait until they start prosecuting trump for his stealing campaign funds (his daughter) among other things.

Take care and be safe!

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Response to SWBTATTReg (Reply #46)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 02:48 PM

47. ...

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:24 PM

8. Dumb indeed! Great for us.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:35 PM

9. face it: refuKKKchickens are no longer a party, just a shitty gang of pissy losers...

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:54 PM

10. Which totalitarian country are they using as their example?

You want to give your absolutely full support to The Party, don't you? Don't you?


Unconscionable. Unethical. Unfortunately, this might just work with many too many Trump supporters.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 06:58 PM

12. What is this, a "Sopranos"-style shakedown?



They need to do some serious FEC investigation into the NRCC.

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Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #12)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:43 PM

27. Thugpublicans.

Now I think.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:14 PM

13. In so many ways the Republic Party seems bent on self-destruction

Only the racists and extreme crazies will keep sticking with them if they keep this kind of stuff up.

And they don’t seem to be able to learn from their mistakes.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:18 PM

14. You don't have to uncheck it. Shred your name/address, and the form.

You don't have to uncheck it.

Shred your name/address, and the form.

A recurring zero donation.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:54 PM

16. Exactly. After hearing about Trump's shakedown with recurring donations,

The sight of that checked box - threat combo should make it all sink in once and for all.

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Response to keithbvadu2 (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:48 PM

34. And, have your credit card account number changed.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:50 PM

15. if this is all they got !!


republican party remind's me of the every day comedy's on late night tv. better not uncheck the box's or the ex- illegitimate president will have a fit & crap his depend's ! people , goony donny is officially irrelevant now. if the media would just ignore him , he,d end up in the mental ward from lack of attention . plane & simple .

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 07:59 PM

18. Call to good reporters, an investigation must be made on what trump has on republicans that they are

so afraid of him.

No one, and I mean, NO ONE, who has any sense would bow to the buffoon named donald trump. It is so obvious that HE IS a buffoon, an ignorant, a con etc.

What trash does he have on all these republicans that they have become such sheep, so afraid of an ignorant like trump? What is going on?

I really thought this was Andrew Borowitz who had written this. This is not normal, this is out of a fantasy book where the evil magician takes hold of the minds of his followers...There has to be so much trash that trump accumulated on so many of them, he may have even extended their corruption, and I say it like this because I do believe 99% of these republicans in public office were already corrupt.

"we will have to tell trump you're a DEFECTOR"...the boogie man is coming after you if you defect, and that boogie man is trump!

Where did these people leave their dignity, did they ever have one?

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:15 PM

20. "If you UNCHECK this box, we will have to tell Trump you're a DEFECTOR."

If you gave them money, how does that make you a defector?

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Response to rpannier (Reply #20)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:22 PM

21. Well, if you uncheck it

you are defecting and leaving the party, of course! What a traitor you are! Kind of unbelievable, but they will believe it.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:23 PM

22. "Deplorable For Life" was pre-checked when they first embraced the sorry

piece of shit.💩

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:32 PM

23. they gonna send a decoder ring or something to donors next....

Adolescent fucks...

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:37 PM

25. I remember when they used to call this organised crime.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 08:53 PM

28. It's highway robbery, dammit. What a shakedown.

They’re really shameless, not to mention devious, sneaky, and criminal!

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 09:08 PM

29. Just when you think the Republicans cannot sink any further they prove you wrong.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 09:29 PM

30. Scared, eh?

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 09:43 PM

31. there scared of pence might beat the x-fat man now ! what a joke the party is now!

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:07 PM

32. That's really, really ugly.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:20 PM

33. It's the Monday thru Saturday message that these people

hear in church from the pulpit on Sunday: "Jesus isn't going to make you rich if you don't give ME money."

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Wed Apr 7, 2021, 10:53 PM

35. Once you join the Cult, they never let you leave.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:50 AM

38. NAZIs kept lists.

From Edwin Black:

Newly-released documents expose more explicitly the details of IBM’s pivotal role in the Holocaust — all six phases: identification, expulsion from society, confiscation, ghettoization, deportation, and even extermination. Moreover, the documents portray with crystal clarity the personal involvement and micro-management of IBM president Thomas J. Watson in the company’s co-planning and co-organizing of Hitler’s campaign to destroy the Jews.

https://www.huffpost.com/entry/ibm-holocaust_b_1301691

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 07:59 AM

39. If this image, and story, were to be broadcast correctly....



It could bring to light the manipulation that the right has been using. My in-laws, who are in their 80's, were Democrats until they got cable and started watching Fox "news". Now they only know that they hate the liberal Democrats. Why they hate them, they can't explain. They just know that they hate them.

The terms "Radical Left", "DEFECTOR" (in caps), "sided with the Dems", and "get Trump to run in 2024", are all triggers to get supporters to leave the box checked. They invoke emotions like hate, fear, and excitement. I believe that Fox "news" and hate media use the same tactics to keep people tuning in. I also believe that those who are using Facebook to propagate hate are using the same tactics.

Just ask a person who hates the liberal Democrats why they hate them. They'll spew nonsense, but generally they don't have a valid reason. They simply know that they hate them. It's the same group of emotions that a Green Bay Packers fan feels toward the Minnesota Vikings. They simply know that they hate them. Of course, a football fan might have a few examples of why they hate their opponent. The NFL generates a ton of money by promoting rivalry tactics.

Edit: I forgot to include the emotion guilt, which is a big one. Guilt is probably the most important emotion to take advantage of.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:42 AM

41. I read the first paragraph and thought it was the Onion -then looked at was NYT!! 4th grade bullies

are in charge of the Repug party.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 12:00 PM

43. Hilariously idiotic. This will drive away donors en masse.

Scare the shit out of 'em. Brilliant.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:03 PM

44. T-shirt:

TRUMP SUCKER

(No money left for your scam).

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 01:09 PM

45. That right there is some sick, fascistic shit.

That's goose-stepping, Josef Goebbels-level bullying. Too bad the present-day version of the Republican Party has lost all capacity for shame. Thanks for nothing, trump.

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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 03:40 PM

48. Der fuhrer vill be vellly deespleezed!!

Ve are making lists and checking them twice for undesirables!
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Response to teach1st (Original post)

Thu Apr 8, 2021, 09:55 PM

50. The smell of desperation...

...and flop sweat nearly comes off the screen.

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