Manchin says there is 'no circumstance' where he would vote to get rid of or 'weaken' the filibuster
Source: Washington Post
The West Virginia senator also suggested in an op-ed published in The Washington Post that he would be opposed to using the budget reconcilaton process, under which certain legislation requires only a majority vote, again to circumvent the filibuster, an avenue Senate Democrats have considered for passing Bidens ambitious infrastructure package.
There is no circumstance in which I will vote to eliminate or weaken the filibuster, Manchin wrote. The time has come to end these political games, and to usher a new era of bipartisanship where we find common ground on the major policy debates facing our nation.
Even with all 50 Democrats in agreement, most legislation requires 60 votes to stop a filibuster. Democrats argue that while the filibuster used to be employed sparingly, its now used to stymie any issue where there is partisan disagreement.
Read more: https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/manchin-filibuster-biden/2021/04/07/03635ab2-97fd-11eb-b28d-bfa7bb5cb2a5_story.html
Layzeebeaver
(1,623 posts)The manchinian candidate
He needs to be replaced.
brooklynite
(94,503 posts)angrychair
(8,695 posts)It is irrelevant. If he won't vote to remove or alter the filibuster there is nothing.
Not a single thing of consequence will pass the Senate for the next 4 years.
Trueblue1968
(17,205 posts)WHAT YOU SAID BEAVER. You are 100000000000000000% right on
GB_RN
(2,347 posts)From WV, your choice is 100% tRumper like Shelly More-Capito, or a DINO-RINO like Manchin. The 100% tRumper, Id argue, is even worse. And no, I dont like Manchin, I hate the guy.
certainot
(9,090 posts)and screamers enabling/intimidating his global warming deniers are wormeaten
if he threatens to go GOP he needs to know without limbaugh the GGOP is fucked and in a long term minority
madaboutharry
(40,209 posts)He may be a Democrat, but a lot of what he does is to serve his own political needs rather than the needs of his constituents. I know politics is messy, but he lets Democrats down an awful lot.
NewHendoLib
(60,014 posts)Layzeebeaver
(1,623 posts)Deuxcents
(16,190 posts)a kennedy
(29,655 posts)This Democrat needs some assurance to realize he needs to vote how WE WANT HIM TO VOTE. HE DOES NOT OWN THE SENATE......and someone needs to explain that to him.....JMHO
Raven123
(4,828 posts)muriel_volestrangler
(101,307 posts)to do their fucking duty and pass needed (and strongly supported, by voters) legislation on infrastructure, voting etc.
If he can't produce the results, he's full of shit.
byronius
(7,394 posts)Suicidal, genocidal, idiot.
Period.
taxi
(1,896 posts)Can he be expected to commit political suicide for nothing.
Marthe48
(16,936 posts)His uncle went to jail. capito's father arch moore went to jail. How can WV citizens keep voting for families with so many skeletons?
dalton99a
(81,455 posts)Disgusting
And Im not sure he realizes this, hes actually have MORE power without the damned filibuster.
kairos12
(12,853 posts)they will dump the filibuster. Count on it.
Jay25
(417 posts)He and Sinema are the republicans greatest assets against Democrats. I hope Democrats are searching for a way to pass a voting rights act without these two.
regnaD kciN
(26,044 posts)Jay25
(417 posts)the Democratic Party has no future. Republican governors are suppressing votes throughout the country, all but guaranteeing they sweep every election (in their states) from now on, unless the courts rule against them.
Trump found loophole after loophole to do his evil as he pleased, hopefully Biden and Democrats can find a loophole to stop illegal voter suppression
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)here admit Manchin is a lost cause?
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)he's as liberal as we are going to get out of that state. Period. That we even have a Democrat from there is a minor miracle.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)he doesn't really do us much good. The man is willing to destroy Democracy in order to retain his "power".
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)and 51-49 R in the Senate? Because that is our *ONLY* option.
I'll take a couple of DINOs and at least the ability to get things out of committee.
It's like having the choice of a really crappy, smelly, foul, smoking beater car, or walking.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)tell him we are going to put the voting bill to a vote. He will have to be the one to sink it and take all of the "glory" for sabotaging democracy in America.
I am sure he has been offered a lot of "incentives" (his wife got a federal appointment), and yet he continues to angle for more. At some point, the extortion must stop.
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)extremely small potatoes compared to the other issues at stake.
I'll be honest, I genuinely think that the guy identifies with his constituents and really mostly cares about what's good for them, not what will please the most strident voices in the deepest of blue states.
There are so many damned 'purists' who'd rather run a "real" Democrat (and lose) than deal with the reality that he represents one of the reddest areas in the country, and our 'majority is razor-thin; this election wasn't a mandate, it wasn't a carte blanche, it was a slim majority saying 'the other guy is a racist, incompetent dick, can you guys do better? you got 2 years'.
Politics is the art of the possible. People should damned well show Manchin some love and respect because he could switch to the GOP and probably win more easily and with a lot less stress and condemnation. The people pissed that he isn't liberal enough need to grow the fuck up and learn about how politics actually works. Sure, I'd love it if he and Krysten Sienma were solid, hardcore democratic socialists, but they aren't, and having 60 solid true-blue votes in the Senate is about as likely as you or me hitting the lottery.
Miguelito Loveless
(4,465 posts)he is happy to prop up Trump's Big Lie, stating that January 6th was about loss of trust in the voting process.
"Our ultimate goal should be to restore bipartisan faith in our voting process by assuring all Americans that their votes will be counted, secured and protected."
The votes WERE counted, secured, and protected. The count was accurate. January 6th was about people not liking the count, and creating a lie to justify overturning the election results. Manchin now wishes to cater to those telling the Big Lie by cliaming that Republicans must be involved in vote reform, as they are jamming bills through legislatures stripping away voting rights.
Yes, we need him now to maintain our majority, but if he wants to stop voting reform, he should have to actually vote to do it, so the entire blame can be his.
The Mouth
(3,148 posts)Shhsh
they get violent when confronted with "facts"
Bayard
(22,061 posts)Dems need to quit tip toeing around him, and just whack him. He's as power-mad as McConnell.
PortTack
(32,757 posts)Law professors: the filibuster is unconstitutional, and Kamala Harris can issue a ruling.
https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215256096
Ive seen more than one very confident interview by Schumer, Amy K and Al Franken that say some form of HR1/S1 will pass. Schumer repeatedly says nothing is off the table..maybe this is it.
We cant allow manchin to be the final say..one man holding the entire country hostage..NO! Of course, that wont stop him from voting no on these major packages
autorank
(29,456 posts)So... we are to believe that the incredibly shrewd Biden White House offers a prime appointment to Manchin's wife in early March for nothing in return and three weeks later Manchin crushes the Biden agenda, even the Democratic Party, by supporting the filibuster. I don't think so. Biden gave the very lucrative appointment Manchin's his wife and, if he is needed, he can feign outrage at the evil Republic plot to steal votes, revise his position, and end up the big hero.
March 11, 2021
WASHINGTON (AP) President Joe Biden is nominating Gayle Manchin, the wife of West Virginia Sen. Joe Manchin, to be the co-chair of the Appalachian Regional Commission, an economic development partnership involving the federal government and 13 states.
https://heraldcourier.com/news/national/govt-and-politics/biden-taps-sen-manchins-wife-to-co-chair-appalachian-board/article_54be538e-070e-5ed0-aeb4-7f5d43f15c28.html|
PortTack
(32,757 posts)angrychair
(8,695 posts)His wife was given the position as a way to soften Manchin on his filibuster position and it had no effect because he is really doing all as an embedded spoiler in support of republicans in WV.
autorank
(29,456 posts)... the Manchin's can do a lot more raking-it-in with the business interests that comprise the 13 states along the Trail. In my scenario, the Law of the Highest Bidder applies. But who knows.
SunSeeker
(51,550 posts)Has he changed his mind?
Link to tweet
TomDaisy
(1,870 posts)Dyedinthewoolliberal
(15,568 posts)if not the filibuster?
soldierant
(6,847 posts)if he doesn't do it - and SOON - soon enough to pass HR1 - he will never have another chance. We will never be in power in Congress again. For eternity, or till a bloody revolution, whichever comes first.
April 30th is the deadline for the Census Bureau to provides raw numbers to the states so they can start looking at how to redistrict. nd no, those numbers won't be perfect - they never are - and these will be farther from perfect from usual - but they will be what we get.
Manifest Desmond
(19 posts)Give me Barney any day!
dlk
(11,558 posts)Tradition is a value for many southerner and a return to the traditional version of the filibuster may be an option. However, Im with Senator Warnock. Instead of the media focusing on Democrats about a Senate rule, why arent they focusing on Republicans, and asking if they support voting rights?
Roisin Ni Fiachra
(2,574 posts)minority dictatorship that will be established the US due to the passage of HR 1 being obstructed by those who will obstruct its passage.
Heil Hawley!
bluestarone
(16,910 posts)Only answer is JOE MANCHIN! to add here where are the West Virginia citizens on this? IF they support what Biden wants then it's time for THEM to put pressure on Manchin!
Politicub
(12,165 posts)has so much power that he (or she) can shut down the works for progressive legislation.
And if it wasnt Manchin, Sinema would be the sticking point.
There is so much that could be done that would lift so many people. The Voting Rights Act, the Equality Act, the infrastructure bill, and on and on seemed so possible.
hadEnuf
(2,188 posts)the GOP?
This clown is no Democrat.