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orangecrush

(19,510 posts)
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 07:08 AM Apr 2021

Federal prosecutors get the green light to start offering plea deals to Capitol riot defendants, att

Source: CNN


(CNN)Federal prosecutors have informed some Capitol riot defendants the Justice Department has given the green-light to cut guilty plea deals, a step toward bringing the first of the hundreds of cases to a close, according to attorneys involved in the talks.

Defense lawyers involved have long recognized that much of the evidence in the Capitol riot cases isn't disputable enough to take to trial -- especially because so much is on video -- and that many of the more than 350 people charged would want to end their court proceedings quickly. But the cases have stalled for weeks as the Justice Department worked out what it was willing to offer, prompting attorneys to ask for delays in many of the court proceedings.
It's not clear yet which or how many defendants may be getting plea deals, and they haven't been offered to all interested defendants at this time, the attorneys told CNN. Lawyers who spoke to CNN described deals for defendants with misdemeanors, and not the cases with more severe charges.

The hang-up until now appears to at least partly come from how unusual the Capitol cases are: that there are hundreds, each with many hours of video evidence, and the charges range from the equivalent of trespassing and vandalism crimes to more serious violence and conspiracy charges.


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Federal prosecutors get the green light to start offering plea deals to Capitol riot defendants, att (Original Post) orangecrush Apr 2021 OP
I really hope the deals will be used to get more information on those plotting treason against Scrivener7 Apr 2021 #1
Namely giving up Trump, and quite a few congresspersons and senators. ananda Apr 2021 #6
Most will get a fine and a record. If not, there could be years before all the cases were heard 3Hotdogs Apr 2021 #2
I'm hoping they'll also name-drop those in congress who were part of it Rorey Apr 2021 #3
Public Sentencing - Capitol Steps econron Apr 2021 #10
Sounds great to me Rorey Apr 2021 #12
Plea deals for insurrection?!? We already KNOW who the "bigger fish" are. Lock all these... FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #4
Let em rot in prison till they start coughing up names Fullduplexxx Apr 2021 #5
Yes Escurumbele Apr 2021 #11
no one who entered that building should get less than a felony. mountain grammy Apr 2021 #7
I just have to ask how lenient would they have been if they took over turbinetree Apr 2021 #8
Take their guns away or they'll use them next time they attack Roisin Ni Fiachra Apr 2021 #9
Their guns should already be in confiscation. marble falls Apr 2021 #14
The only Rebl2 Apr 2021 #15
Exactly. That's what I want more than any other punishment. maxsolomon Apr 2021 #16
Add the permanent loss of any other individual Federal licenses Backseat Driver Apr 2021 #18
No deals to anyone that don't include jail time in more than a county lockup. marble falls Apr 2021 #13
To parphrase conservative meatbag, Michael Ledeen, in 2002. Grins Apr 2021 #17

Scrivener7

(50,935 posts)
1. I really hope the deals will be used to get more information on those plotting treason against
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 07:15 AM
Apr 2021

our Democracy and not to simply give these assholes a slap on the wrist.

But sadly I bet it's to give them a slap on the wrist.

If it is, that was the Beer Hall Putsch of our time and there is much, much worse to come.

3Hotdogs

(12,365 posts)
2. Most will get a fine and a record. If not, there could be years before all the cases were heard
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 07:30 AM
Apr 2021

in D.C.

D.C. is where they must be heard and that court would be overwhelmed.

The assholes who have been denied bail, those are the ones facing prison time.

Regarding the losers implicating others, there are only a couple of bozos who might have information to turn over... namely, heads of Proud Boys or Oath Keepers. What names might they drop? Stone is the only one I can think of.

econron

(152 posts)
10. Public Sentencing - Capitol Steps
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 09:34 AM
Apr 2021

I wish they would publicly round each of them up and present them on the Capitol steps for the nation to see. Read their name, where they are from, crime, and ultimate sentencing which would then be broadcast on prime-time TV. Go from criminal to criminal so we all can remember this day and their treasonous behaviors.

I'm sure others can add to this concept but wanted to throw it out there...

FailureToCommunicate

(14,012 posts)
4. Plea deals for insurrection?!? We already KNOW who the "bigger fish" are. Lock all these...
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 07:46 AM
Apr 2021

confederate a**holes up and throw away the keys.

Anyone but white dudes attacking police would have been gunned down or arrested on the spot en masse.

turbinetree

(24,688 posts)
8. I just have to ask how lenient would they have been if they took over
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 09:05 AM
Apr 2021

the complete control of the capital and there fascist leader with his henchmen and woman would have walked right back in...to the masses, cheering.....how lenient is lenient, I think 81 million of us have a say and so does the police officers......

Backseat Driver

(4,385 posts)
18. Add the permanent loss of any other individual Federal licenses
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 12:53 PM
Apr 2021

Aviation, Marine, FCC, etc...no income from books (no LoC#), e-books, lectures, interviews. They should also lose individual federal pensions/benefits as well through previous/current military service and broad vetting for things like passports, RealIDs, FAFSA, Housing Loans, and Farm subsidies, but I digress...I despise plea deals--nothing more than quid pro quos--for Pete's sake, they acknowledged their guilt and participation in this insurrection and should not get less consequence...naming "bigger fish" that also get an unfair shake because of wealth, fame, elevated representative status, race...cagey defense attorneys purposely creating technical case flaws, parsed brain-twisting language, and human errors in probationary systems full of human personnel, etc...

Maybe even include a mandatory mental health consult at least annually...

These folks really ticked me, and deserve any and every consequence...Sorry, the lesser angel got hold of the emotions!

Grins

(7,205 posts)
17. To parphrase conservative meatbag, Michael Ledeen, in 2002.
Fri Apr 9, 2021, 12:31 PM
Apr 2021

"Every ten years or so, the United States needs to pick up some small crappy little country and throw it against the wall, just to show the world we mean business."

Do the same with these guys. Pick the first one wisely, get an easy conviction - and throw the damn book at him!!! And I mean some serious, "Oh-sweet-baby-rabbits-on-toast"-level of sentencing.

Just to get the attention of those remaining....

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