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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 09:45 AM Apr 2021

Biden administration asks Supreme Court not to hear challenge to all-male military draft

Source: Washington Post/MSN


The Washington Post

Robert Barnes 41 mins ago

The Biden administration has asked the Supreme Court not to take up a lawsuit that calls the all-male military draft unconstitutional.

Because Congress is considering whether women should also be required to sign-up, Acting Solicitor General Elizabeth B. Prelogar said in a brief to the court, “any reconsideration of the constitutionality of the male-only registration requirement … would be premature at this time.”

The brief does not state whether President Biden believes women should be included, nor does it defend the current system that requires only men 18 to 26 to submit their information should a military draft be needed again.

“Congress’s attention to the question may soon eliminate any need for the court to grapple with that constitutional question,” Prelogar wrote.


Read more: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/biden-administration-asks-supreme-court-not-to-hear-challenge-to-all-male-military-draft/ar-BB1fGrJJ



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Biden administration asks Supreme Court not to hear challenge to all-male military draft (Original Post) DonViejo Apr 2021 OP
Why should women be excluded from the draft? Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #1
That's not the point. Ocelot II Apr 2021 #2
When the military takes sexual assault of women dflprincess Apr 2021 #3
Women don't have equal protection under the law dlk Apr 2021 #4
Fair enough! Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #6
Equal responsibilities should include equal rights dlk Apr 2021 #7
Agreed. Miguelito Loveless Apr 2021 #9
No worries dlk Apr 2021 #10
Make men responsible for physical burden of pregnancy and limit their childbearing years lostnfound Apr 2021 #21
I remember the draft during the Vietnam era. twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #5
The vivid news reporting of that era clearly showed the double standard dlk Apr 2021 #8
no deferrments jonstl08 Apr 2021 #13
No deferments would be much more fair dlk Apr 2021 #19
And the counter argument would be "congress ... may not soon eliminate any need". n/t PoliticAverse Apr 2021 #11
I don't think there will ever be another draft jmowreader Apr 2021 #12
"Two massive wars"? Maybe a draft wasn't wanted because it wasn't needed. JustABozoOnThisBus Apr 2021 #16
women were banned from combat when that law was written dsc Apr 2021 #14
This is wrong. James48 Apr 2021 #15
"Please don't strike down unconstitutional law because Congress MIGHT change it." Jose Garcia Apr 2021 #17
Women should be required to register for the draft IbogaProject Apr 2021 #18
Let the Congress deal with it first is correct. riversedge Apr 2021 #20
No ERA, no women in draft obamanut2012 Apr 2021 #22

Ocelot II

(115,674 posts)
2. That's not the point.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 09:58 AM
Apr 2021

"The brief does not state whether President Biden believes women should be included, nor does it defend the current system that requires only men 18 to 26 to submit their information should a military draft be needed again.

“Congress’s attention to the question may soon eliminate any need for the court to grapple with that constitutional question,” The brief does not state whether President Biden believes women should be included, nor does it defend the current system that requires only men 18 to 26 to submit their information should a military draft be needed again.

“Congress’s attention to the question may soon eliminate any need for the court to grapple with that constitutional question.” "

dflprincess

(28,075 posts)
3. When the military takes sexual assault of women
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:05 AM
Apr 2021

by their fellow soldiers seriously, then we'll discuss wonen signing up for the draft.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
4. Women don't have equal protection under the law
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 10:07 AM
Apr 2021

Until that day arrives, the subject of drafting women should be off the table.

Miguelito Loveless

(4,460 posts)
9. Agreed.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:06 AM
Apr 2021

Thank you for providing me with answer that should have been obvious. I blame the last 5 years.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
10. No worries
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:08 AM
Apr 2021

The last few years have been especially challenging. I’m looking forward to better days ahead.

lostnfound

(16,173 posts)
21. Make men responsible for physical burden of pregnancy and limit their childbearing years
Fri Apr 16, 2021, 12:12 AM
Apr 2021

Can’t do that, can we? That’s just a fact of life.

Women who want to become parents AND have a strong career have enough challenges fitting it in. Basically from age 20to 40 vs 20to 60.

The impact of an equal draft would never be equal.

dlk

(11,552 posts)
8. The vivid news reporting of that era clearly showed the double standard
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 11:04 AM
Apr 2021

I believe this was was a major contributing factor in the widespread opposition to the Vietnam war and why years later, limits were put on news coverage of foreign conflicts. Throughout history, poor men have fought wars for the benefit of rich men.

jonstl08

(412 posts)
13. no deferrments
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 01:44 PM
Apr 2021

This is why I think there should deferments at all for anybody physically able to serve regardless of who they are. No college deferments or anything else. President Bone Spurs and his spawn would have to serve. Only ones ineligible would be the handicap and severely mentally ill. And a person who tries to use the mentally ill tactic would go into a database where he cannot ever own a firearm for life. That way Ted Nugent would never be able to own a firearm

dlk

(11,552 posts)
19. No deferments would be much more fair
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 07:09 PM
Apr 2021

And it would make more people think twice about rushing into needless wars.

jmowreader

(50,555 posts)
12. I don't think there will ever be another draft
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 01:41 PM
Apr 2021

The military seems pretty happy with the quality of recruits it's been getting, and when these two massive wars broke out the Defense Department specifically requested that a draft NOT be held.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
16. "Two massive wars"? Maybe a draft wasn't wanted because it wasn't needed.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 02:41 PM
Apr 2021

There was no need to build up our armed forces, we could just divert existing (trained) forces to the region. Maybe after a bit of extra training in cold and/or sandy places.

Vietnam, Korea, WW2 needed a massive controlled build-up. Maybe a draft was needed then.

Hopefully, we will not see a massive war again.

Just the opinion of one formerly young draftee.

dsc

(52,155 posts)
14. women were banned from combat when that law was written
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 02:00 PM
Apr 2021

thus it was viewed as senseless to include them in a draft.

James48

(4,435 posts)
15. This is wrong.
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 02:30 PM
Apr 2021

I am of the age that had to register immediately after the Supreme Court previously found that male-only registration was legal. The basis of that decision was that women were prohibited from combat.

That is no longer the case. So the 1980 Supreme Court ruling is no longer valid.

This needs to be reheard now. If Congress changes the law, fine. But they haven’t. Any males are forced to register or else they lose federal benefits, jobs, etc.

I fully support the case moving forward. That puts pressure on Congress to act.

IbogaProject

(2,804 posts)
18. Women should be required to register for the draft
Thu Apr 15, 2021, 03:24 PM
Apr 2021

Women should be required to register for the draft, as failing to do so can harm a man's legal rights under federal law, therefore it is discriminatory to not force women to register. I am opposed to the draft but it is all or none with forcing individuals to register at penalty of exclusion to future federal benefits with no remedial recourse either it is done within a certain timeframe or it can't be fixed.

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