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Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:35 PM

Guilty verdict in Chauvin trial could set precedent: Crump, civil rights attorney

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Source: ABC News

If Derek Chauvin, a former Minneapolis police officer, is found guilty in the killing of George Floyd, it could set a new precedent for policing, said Benjamin Crump, a civil rights attorney representing the families of Floyd and Daunte Wright.

"The outcome that we pray for and Derek Chauvin is for him to be held criminally liable for killing George Floyd, because we believe that could be a precedent," Crump told ABC's "This Week" co-anchor Martha Raddatz on Sunday. "Finally making America live up to its promise of liberty and justice for all. That means all of us -- Black people, Hispanic people, Native people -- all of us.

"And I am tired of -- as many Black people are -- tired of hearing when they kill unarmed Black people. I mean, from the local level all the way to the president of the United States they say, 'It is tragic that Daunte Wright was killed but looting is unacceptable,'" said Crump, who also represented the families of Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown and Breonna Taylor.

"What I want the president and everybody to add to that line, Martha, is killing unarmed Black people is unacceptable," he continued. "We have to send that message to the police, because the crux of the matter is this: I was born Black and I am going to die Black, but police do not kill me because I am Black."

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Reply Guilty verdict in Chauvin trial could set precedent: Crump, civil rights attorney (Original post)
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin Apr 2021 OP
ProudMNDemocrat Apr 2021 #1
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #2
Sneederbunk Apr 2021 #3
rsdsharp Apr 2021 #4
George II Apr 2021 #7
George II Apr 2021 #6
Dustlawyer Apr 2021 #11
Archae Apr 2021 #5
Watchfoxheadexplodes Apr 2021 #8
COL Mustard Apr 2021 #9
Archae Apr 2021 #10
LisaL Apr 2021 #12
Martin68 Apr 2021 #13
dsc Apr 2021 #14
JudyM Apr 2021 #15

Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 12:49 PM

1. When Benjamin Crump speaks, people NEED to listen.

For he speaks the truth in gut wrenching terms.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:11 PM

2. Crump needs to stop getting rich off these victims

Jeez the money this guy has made off these victims and maybe I'm wrong but don't remember him pleading in these cases. Well I guess the sidewalk counts.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:15 PM

3. Has become a Gloria Allred type.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 01:21 PM

4. The only thing more dangerous than racist cops

is getting between Crump and a TV camera. I call him “The am-a-lance man,” as in “The am-a-lance became a hearse,” which he said on TV roughly 2000 times last May and June.

I have seen absolutely zero evidence of his skill as an attorney. Yes, there was the $27,000,000 settlement announced recently, but I have seen no evidence that he negotiated it, or that it was the result in some part because of his reputation as a trial attorney.

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Response to rsdsharp (Reply #4)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:37 PM

7. Who heard of this guy before a year or so ago?

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:36 PM

6. I never heard of this guy up until about a year or so ago, now he's everywhere. He held a "press....

....conference" the morning that the trial started. He spoke for FORTY FIVE minutes non-stop.

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Response to Watchfoxheadexplodes (Reply #2)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 04:44 PM

11. Not a big fan of Crump but he has the financial backing and experience to do the job.

I disagree that a Chauvin conviction alone would do much. The bigger deal will be if the other three cops get convicted with stiff sentences. That would send a message to all cops that a bad apple cop can send them to prison if THEY do not stop him/her from violating people’s civil rights. Once they realize it is their butts on the line too, they will shut down the bad actors or at least not stand up for them.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:35 PM

5. Even IF Chauvin is found guilty...

He'll be out on bail before a sentence is announced.

And after that...

Countless appeals, and possibly even a presidential pardon, from a Trump-type.

Not to mention domestic terrorist groups will try to get Chauvin released by taking hostages, or causing terrorist outrages.

No, this whole case will be FAR from over, even after a verdict.

And if Chauvin is found NOT guilty?
A full spring-winter of riots.
Burning, looting, killing.

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Response to Archae (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:45 PM

8. Looting and killing

Yea that's a fix geez

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Response to Archae (Reply #5)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:51 PM

9. You Do Know A President Can Only Pardon For Federal Offenses?

Chauvin is on trial in a State court. Even if T***p was still in office he couldn't pardon for that.

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Response to COL Mustard (Reply #9)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 02:53 PM

10. Then if it's a Trump-type state governor.

Like DeSantis in Florida.

Like I said, even after this trial it ain't over.

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Response to Archae (Reply #10)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:17 PM

12. He can't be pardon by governors of other states.

NT

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:51 PM

13. What a concept. Finding a policeman guilty of murder after he murders someone is a "precedent."

Better than nothing, I guess.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:24 PM

14. This case is too much of a unicorn to be a precedent

This case is at least a high five figure and more likely six figure case from the state's prospective. Plus the wealth of evidence was off the charts. Not only was there a video of the event, you had two witnesses from central casting (the MMA fighter and the EMT). And you had police willing to testify against him, which is unheard of.

Future cases one hopes will see convictions but they aren't going to have the amount of evidence nor the means of presentation that this case has.

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Response to Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin (Original post)

Mon Apr 19, 2021, 01:21 AM

15. Locking

Alerted on for being analysis, speculation

Please post analysis threads in GD instead.

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