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canetoad

(17,136 posts)
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 05:56 PM Apr 2021

Chinese officials identified Huanan market as a pandemic risk years before COVID emerged

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Source: The Age

London: Health experts in Wuhan knew the wet market at the centre of the coronavirus outbreak was a pandemic risk at least five years before COVID-19 emerged, a Sydney scientist has revealed.

In 2014 Dr Eddie Holmes, an evolutionary biologist and virologist, was taken to the Huanan seafood market by members of the Wuhan Centre for Disease Control, who used it as an example of the type of place where a virus could “spillover” from animals to humans. Holmes, a British scientist who now works at the University of Sydney, said the visit was part of a wider project to hunt for new pathogens with pandemic potential in China.

“The Wuhan CDC took us there, and here’s the key bit, because the discussion was: ‘where could a disease emerge?’ Well, here’s the place – that’s why I went,” Holmes said.

“I’ve been to a few of these markets, but this was a big one – it felt like a disease incubator, exactly the sort of place you would expect a disease to emerge”.

Read more: https://www.theage.com.au/world/asia/chinese-officials-identified-huanan-market-as-a-pandemic-risk-years-before-covid-emerged-20210419-p57kan.html

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Chinese officials identified Huanan market as a pandemic risk years before COVID emerged (Original Post) canetoad Apr 2021 OP
The book Spillover: Animal Infections and the Next Human Pandemic by David Quammen PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #1
It should be required reading for all of us. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #2
I have been fascinated by diseases and epidemiology my whole life PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #4
I think we have all had a crash mini course on these topics, plus virology. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #5
The crash course only exists for those who have been paying attention. PoindexterOglethorpe Apr 2021 #9
Sounds like my reading habits, especially lately. I try to read raccoon Apr 2021 #12
Yes the ignorant keep their head in the sand. Not a good way to deal with an emergency. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #14
I hope that someday we can get the truth out of China. Irish_Dem Apr 2021 #3
A Chinese market with a Texas attitude towards safety. Grokenstein Apr 2021 #6
No one who's seen the movie "Contagion" would be surprised at that prediction. FailureToCommunicate Apr 2021 #7
china is not the only wet market in the wolrld ! monkeyman1 Apr 2021 #8
apparently there is a difference between "wet markets" orleans Apr 2021 #10
Perhaps that's why we had people embedded in China's CDC NullTuples Apr 2021 #11
You nailed it. twodogsbarking Apr 2021 #13
Has Biden reinstated that? IronLionZion Apr 2021 #15
After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING Omaha Steve Apr 2021 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author Omaha Steve Apr 2021 #17

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
1. The book Spillover: Animal Infections and the Next Human Pandemic by David Quammen
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 06:19 PM
Apr 2021

is entirely about how disease move from animals to humans. It came out in 2012.

I have a copy of that book and read about half of it some years ago. I have pulled it off the shelf. Maybe I will finish it.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
2. It should be required reading for all of us.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:00 PM
Apr 2021

I think the pandemic is going to be with us for awhile.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
4. I have been fascinated by diseases and epidemiology my whole life
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:07 PM
Apr 2021

and have read LOTS of the books out there on the topic. More people should be reading such things.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
5. I think we have all had a crash mini course on these topics, plus virology.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:25 PM
Apr 2021

But you are ahead of most of us.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,812 posts)
9. The crash course only exists for those who have been paying attention.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:47 PM
Apr 2021

Last edited Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:40 AM - Edit history (1)

Which does tend to be a lot of those here on DU.

Another as yet unread book I found while searching for my copy of Spillover is Zoobiquity: The Astonishing Connection Between Human and Animal Health by Barbara Natterson-Horowitz and Kathryn Bowers. It also has a copyright date of 2012. I've taken it off the shelf and perhaps will read it soon.

So many books, so little time. Plus, I am truly a voracious reader. Two-thirds to three-quarters of what I read is non fiction, and there's hardly a topic I'm not interested in. Sigh.

raccoon

(31,105 posts)
12. Sounds like my reading habits, especially lately. I try to read
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 06:07 AM
Apr 2021

Some light fiction or something funny, to get away from the heavy stuff all the time.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
14. Yes the ignorant keep their head in the sand. Not a good way to deal with an emergency.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 09:18 AM
Apr 2021

It is good to be so widely read. I used to be like that when I was younger, now I tend to stick to the same old genres.
Or I just watch Netflix.

Keep up the good work! And thanks for the citations.

Irish_Dem

(46,489 posts)
3. I hope that someday we can get the truth out of China.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 07:04 PM
Apr 2021

It might be helpful for us to understand exactly what happened so we can prevent it from happening again.
If that is possible.

Grokenstein

(5,721 posts)
6. A Chinese market with a Texas attitude towards safety.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 09:30 PM
Apr 2021

FailureToCommunicate

(14,007 posts)
7. No one who's seen the movie "Contagion" would be surprised at that prediction.
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:13 PM
Apr 2021
 

monkeyman1

(5,109 posts)
8. china is not the only wet market in the wolrld !
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 10:32 PM
Apr 2021

orleans

(34,040 posts)
10. apparently there is a difference between "wet markets"
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 11:02 PM
Apr 2021

this yr old article on cnn says wet markets can be a place where fresh vegetables are sold and hosed down and the floor is wet
https://www.cnn.com/2020/04/14/asia/china-wet-market-coronavirus-intl-hnk/index.html


so the ones i think of (where animals are slaughtered) i think the term blood market would be more appropriate

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
11. Perhaps that's why we had people embedded in China's CDC
Sun Apr 18, 2021, 11:34 PM
Apr 2021

...for advanced notice of new emerging pandemics by the Obama Administration after H1N1.

Of course, the last such person was recalled and the program cancelled in mid-2019 by the GOP & Trump administration.

twodogsbarking

(9,671 posts)
13. You nailed it.
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 06:46 AM
Apr 2021

We could have been working with China for a solution but .......

IronLionZion

(45,380 posts)
15. Has Biden reinstated that?
Mon Apr 19, 2021, 11:19 AM
Apr 2021

He probably should do it soon.

Omaha Steve

(99,493 posts)
16. After a review by forum hosts....LOCKING
Tue Apr 20, 2021, 06:32 AM
Apr 2021

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