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Wed Apr 21, 2021, 05:20 PM

Police fatally shoot Black father after he 'started to drive away' - his family says he never carrie

Source: Raw Story

A North Carolina man was shot and killed by police this Wednesday after deputies executed a search warrant, 8News reports.

Andrew Brown, 40, was reportedly shot and killed by police when he got in his car and tried to drive away. According to neighbors, they heard anywhere from six to eight shots.

Brown, who is Black, is the father of 10 children. His family says he never carried a gun.

Read more: https://www.rawstory.com/cop-fatally-shoots-black-father/

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Reply Police fatally shoot Black father after he 'started to drive away' - his family says he never carrie (Original post)
KatK Apr 21 OP
GB_RN Apr 21 #1
quakerboy Apr 21 #26
BComplex Apr 21 #2
Tndem615 Apr 21 #6
AZLD4Candidate Apr 21 #18
locks Apr 21 #21
quakerboy Apr 21 #27
bucolic_frolic Apr 21 #3
PatSeg Apr 21 #4
catrose Apr 21 #25
PatSeg Apr 22 #34
pansypoo53219 Apr 21 #23
SeattleVet Apr 21 #28
rgbecker Apr 21 #5
quakerboy Apr 22 #30
ashredux Apr 21 #7
KatK Apr 21 #8
Beartracks Apr 21 #9
Ka-Dinh Oy Apr 21 #13
brush Apr 22 #29
OldBaldy1701E Apr 22 #36
Beartracks Apr 22 #41
OldBaldy1701E Apr 23 #44
speak easy Apr 21 #10
JudyM Apr 21 #11
speak easy Apr 21 #14
JudyM Apr 21 #19
flying_wahini Apr 21 #12
truthisfreedom Apr 22 #39
Jedi Guy Apr 22 #43
Bettie Apr 21 #15
cstanleytech Apr 22 #31
Bettie Apr 22 #38
Judi Lynn Apr 21 #16
world wide wally Apr 21 #17
cstanleytech Apr 22 #32
DallasNE Apr 21 #20
mackdaddy Apr 21 #22
PoliticAverse Apr 21 #24
roamer65 Apr 22 #33
marie999 Apr 22 #35
DVRacer Apr 22 #37
truthisfreedom Apr 22 #40
KatK Apr 22 #42

Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 05:27 PM

1. Not Yet Knowing All The Details

All I can say is, “Jesus H. Christ on a stick! Not again!”🤦‍♂️

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Response to GB_RN (Reply #1)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:05 PM

26. Every day. Bet on that and you wont lose money any week of the year.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 05:33 PM

2. Why the friggin' escalation in shootings?

Do cops not care if they're going to jail? I hope this guy goes to jail for..well, forever.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:45 PM

6. Please

Let me know all the information you have regarding this incident. I haven’t found nearly as much as you.

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Response to Tndem615 (Reply #6)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:33 PM

18. The snarky response is not necessary.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:07 PM

21. There is not an escalation

If you have lived in DC, Chicago and New Orleans as I have it has always been this way. We just thought the deaths were black on black and cops had to shoot them.

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Response to BComplex (Reply #2)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:07 PM

27. they are angry and scared

They are used to being untouchable and running the neighborhoods to their liking. Their gangs power is being challenged. They are reacting with violence, as that is what has reliably worked for them in the past.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 05:40 PM

3. So the guy's in his car. Maybe, just a thought, shoot out the tires???????

Hello? Anybody home in the upstairs of the PD?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 05:48 PM

4. And they know his name,

his license plate number, and make and model of his car. Even if they didn't disable his car by shooting the tires, he probably wouldn't have gotten too far before he was stopped. This is insane.

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Response to PatSeg (Reply #4)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:41 PM

25. And he probably had a cell phone, which they could track.

What kind a danger was he to anyone that they could NOT let him get away.

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Response to catrose (Reply #25)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 04:09 AM

34. Once again

why does it seem that shooting is the cop's first option?

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:22 PM

23. no shit. bad cop.

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Response to bucolic_frolic (Reply #3)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 11:20 PM

28. If you shoot at a tire you stand an excellent chance of having the bullet bounce right back at you.

...As I once found out when zeroing in a .30/30 deer rifle many years ago.

The sound of the bullet whizzing by my ear definitely got my attention.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:40 PM

5. At least the news people are paying attention.

1000/year is about 3 a day. There may be more now but the key is People are paying more attention...at least right this week!

Clearly, many police departments are not up to speed about the BLM movements.

Do these cops have no plans for what to do if those they are trying to apprehend don't want to go along...besides just killing them on the street?

WTF?

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Response to rgbecker (Reply #5)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:53 AM

30. Why would they deviate from a plan thats worked for them for the entirety of their existance?

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:53 PM

7. It seems the first "go to" is killing a black guy....was he a serial killer? NO..HE WAS NOT

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 06:55 PM

8. I wonder if a lot of cops are ...

I wonder if a lot of cops are in backlash mode.

Like when the cops standing there after Ma'Khia Bryant's killing said to bystanders, "Blue Lives Matter".

Good Lord. It won't be easy or quick to turn this around. And we must.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:12 PM

9. Seriously, are guns the only tools police have at their disposal anymore?

I mean, I hear they sometimes carry tasers, but they never seem to be able to find those.

So the only thing they know how to do is shoot things? WTF It's like they can't or won't exercise discretion about anything. Can cops no longer distinguish real threats from non-threats? Maybe their cop training is too short.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #9)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:56 PM

13. It's the only weapon when you are black.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 01:31 AM

29. It has to start at vetting recruits to weed out potential killer cops.

Then comes the training. Too many psychologically unfit creatures are unleashed onto the public from police academies because they weren't eliminated before training even started.

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #9)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:52 AM

36. It is not a question of threats

It is a question of authority and unquestioned compliance. See, we are supposed to bow to them and do what they say, regardless of how illegal or immoral (or just freaking insane) their actions may be. We are supposed to never question our capitalistic overlords or their lackeys. And, if we don't do this, then we obviously are not worthy of their attention, and therefore must be removed. This 'winner at all costs' mentality is why this happens. But, our greed and ego created this mindset, so changing it will be difficult. No one wants to be seen as anti-greed, because that is all but synonymous with being anti-American.

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Response to OldBaldy1701E (Reply #36)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:37 PM

41. Hey: 1701E!

I *know* that's not a random thing!

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Response to Beartracks (Reply #41)

Fri Apr 23, 2021, 02:00 PM

44. Not at all. (n/t)

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:16 PM

10. The cops are making a statement.

Business / intimidation as usual.

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Response to speak easy (Reply #10)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:48 PM

11. Hopefully as we the people make more of a statement, all the bad apples will drop out of the force.

If they’re not fired and prosecuted first.

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Response to JudyM (Reply #11)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:56 PM

14. This goes all the way back to reconstruction.

We the people have to break the cycle.

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Response to speak easy (Reply #14)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:46 PM

19. That's it, right there. We the people are fighting our own civil war, in local legislatures,

in the courts and on the streets. They have positioned themselves well through the years, but we have to win; our strategy is improving and our numbers are slowly growing.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:52 PM

12. Take away guns from police. Arm w/tasers until they have been on the force 2 years without incidents

See how brave they are.....

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Response to flying_wahini (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 04:41 PM

39. Tasers have a 15 foot maximum range.

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Response to flying_wahini (Reply #12)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 09:22 PM

43. I think that's one of the most absurd suggestions I've ever read.

The result will be a lot of injured or dead rookie cops.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 07:58 PM

15. They aren't releasing much information...

https://apnews.com/article/north-carolina-warrant-shooting-andrew-brown-082fe702910015753005ba591a77eedf

ELIZABETH CITY, N.C. (AP) — A North Carolina deputy shot and killed a Black man while executing a search warrant Wednesday, authorities said, spurring an outcry from a crowd of dozens that immediately gathered at the scene and demanded law enforcement accountability.

The Pasquotank County Sheriff’s deputy was placed on leave pending a review by the State Bureau of Investigation, Sheriff Tommy Wooten II said at a news conference. He said the deputy shot Andrew Brown Jr. about 8:30 a.m. while serving the warrant in Elizabeth City, a municipality of about 18,000 people 170 miles (274 km) northeast of Raleigh. Local NAACP leader Keith Rivers said Brown was Black.

Wooten did not identify the deputy and did not say what the warrant was for. Court records show Brown was 42 years old and had a history of drug charges and a misdemeanor drug possession conviction.

The deputy was wearing an active body camera at the time of the shooting, said Wooten, who declined to say how many shots the deputy fired or release any other details, citing a pending review by the State Bureau of Investigation. WAVY-TV reported that neighbors heard multiple shots. A car removed from the scene appeared to have multiple bullet holes and a broken rear windshield.

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Response to Bettie (Reply #15)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 02:33 AM

31. They aren't releasing much information..." which suggests the shooting was not warranted.

After all if it was you would think they would have released all the information including any video right away rather than give the appearance to the public that they are trying to come up with an excuse over why it was warranted.

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Response to cstanleytech (Reply #31)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:48 AM

38. Agreed

it is what they do....so now they have to massage the story and try to find a narrative that they like.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:06 PM

16. Those who refuse to change in police departments should be fired, not killing more unarmed people.

The public shouldn't have to accept it any longer.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:25 PM

17. This "Shoot first, ask questions later" attitude is just bullshit that has to stop.

We are barely even a civilized society anymore.

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Response to world wide wally (Reply #17)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 02:37 AM

32. I think if we had a longer training time requirement in this country before someone can become

a full member of law enforcement that it might help.
Say maybe 3 years that way they can be well trained on how to try and defuse a situation not to mention the longer training time can be used to hopefully filter out the ones that should never be allowed to wear the badge on the streets.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 08:56 PM

20. My God, They Shoot Anything That Moves

The person doesn't need to be present when a search warrant is executed. All they are looking for at that time is evidence, not to make an arrest. So why were the guns blazing away when the man was unarmed.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 09:10 PM

22. So was the man under arrest or being detained?

They said that they have a search warrant for the house but unless there was a warrant for his arrest, or he was officially being detained he should have been free to leave.

Apparently he was free to be shot dead.

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Response to mackdaddy (Reply #22)

Wed Apr 21, 2021, 10:35 PM

24. I wonder if the search warrant included the car. n/t

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 03:37 AM

33. Embedded white supremacists trying to start a "race war".

That’s what my gut tells me.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 07:20 AM

35. So there wasn't even a warrant out on this man,

just a search warrant. This has definitely got to be investigated and not by the police.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:07 AM

37. This is what I fear about gun control laws

Here in Oklahoma it will be used as an excuse on POC more so than whites. Red flag laws where anybody can report are dangerous. Remember the same departments we are already concerned about especially smaller ones will be enforcing these. Many are already upset we made weed legal with a license and that excuse was taken away. Until there’s real reforms made don’t give them any more reasons to interact especially with POC.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 04:45 PM

40. It will turn out to be cannibis.

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Response to KatK (Original post)

Thu Apr 22, 2021, 08:00 PM

42. Finally there's more mainstream reporting on this. Here's ABC's Thursday evening report

Democracy Now covered it this morning (Thursday morning) but right now (Thursday eve) is the first time I saw it showing up on the upper third of CNN, ABC, NBC, or CBS.

Maybe the mainstream outlets wait until there's more info.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/north-carolina-sheriffs-deputy-fatally-shoots-black-man/story

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